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nyctopgam said:
Not sure what you're getting at. Dont most Americans already verbally self identify with compound identities like Irish Americans?
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According to the map no, they do not. Only 32% of Canadians actually identify as Canadian instead of as some other identity.

According to the 2006 census, the country's largest self-reported ethnic origin is Canadian (accounting for 32% of the population), followed by English (21%), French (15.8%), Scottish (15.1%), Irish (13.9%), German (10.2%), Italian (4.6%), Chinese (4.3%), First Nations (4.0%), Ukrainian (3.9%), and Dutch (3.3%).

That's really all the map was measuring. The fact that in America some large percentage of all those divisions would simply identify as "white" or "American" doesn't mean they aren't Irish, Scottish, German, French, Italian, French, English or other.
 
Okay but if you take Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal and Calgary you have the majority of the country's urban population and nearly half the national population, and its a very multi-ethnic country.

Are you saying people who integrate into Canadian society don't count as part of diversity? Because that sounds like what you're saying.
 
bankside said:
Okay but if you take Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal and Calgary you have the majority of the country's urban population and nearly half the national population, and its a very multi-ethnic country.

Are you saying people who integrate into Canadian society don't count as part of diversity? Because that sounds like what you're saying.
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You yourself already answered that question in a previous post.

A 6th generation Welsh person in North America and a 6th generation English person in North America are not going to have anywhere near as much difference between them as a just-arrived Cambodian.
 
xbuzzerx said:
....Only 32% of Canadians actually identify as Canadian instead of as some other identity.....
.....The fact that in America some large percentage of all those divisions would simply identify as "white" or "American" doesn't mean they aren't Irish, Scottish, German, French, Italian, French, English or other.
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So the 32% who identify as simply Canadians could then also mean they could be Irish Scottish German English etc as well?
 
nyctopgam said:
So the 32% who identify as simply Canadians could then also mean they could be Irish Scottish German English etc as well?
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Yes. Presumably they didn't spring into being in Canada. Maybe some of them were First Nations people, but from that self-ID there's no way to know.

That's one of the many problems with that kind of a survey.
 
That map I posted was actually way way more about the first languages people speak in that country - that is how they are defining ethnicity. Not self labels - languages used at home.
 
xbuzzerx said:
….a just-arrived Cambodian.
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Yes.

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JohnnyAnger said:
That map I posted was actually way way more about the first languages people speak in that country - that is how they are defining ethnicity. Not self labels - languages used at home.
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Fair enough but I think you would still agree that's a nebulous grounds upon which to base cultural diversity, too. Look at how many different countries (even on different continents) are first language Spanish, or first language Arabic... or English.
 
xbuzzerx said:
Did you know Japanese still secretly do family history checks on dates or children's friends or employment applicants to check of they are from a burakumin background or not? I guarantee you don't have the faintest clue how to tell a Japanese from a burakumin Japanese if you met them. Probably because there actually is no difference other than the original caste of their families a few hundred years ago.

However... burakumin >>>>>>> Korean or Brazilian. No question. If Japan was 40% non-Japanese I'm almost certain burakumin would fall into complete disuse.
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Yes, I did know that. And, with all due respect: this doesn't take place merely in Japan. Everywhere on this planet, employers, your bank etc. look into the records — real property, previous convictions, morals regarding tax and social insurance contribution payment, and so on and so on. And especially: that parents go checking the socioeconomical (including the genealogical) background of their children's friends is quite common, not only in Japan, but also at least in Europe.
 
otters said:
Yes, I did know that. And, with all due respect: this doesn't take place merely in Japan. Everywhere on this planet, employers, your bank etc. look into the records — real property, previous convictions, morals regarding tax and social insurance contribution payment, and so on and so on. And especially: that parents go checking the socioeconomical (including the genealogical) background of their children's friends is quite common, not only in Japan, but also at least in Europe.
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Nothing about my statement implied it only happened in Japan. However, in a way you're proving my point. The more people look and live alike in a society, the more these kinds of distinctions upon which to group people survive as things that actually hold any (real or imagined) relevant meaning. Let's say someone is a prejudiced snob in America. Their choice is between a neighborhood that is 95% white and a neighborhood that is 60% white. Do you think that person is going to stop and check how many people in the 95% white neighborhood are members of the Mayflower Society first? If the choice was between two 95% white neighborhoods, they just might.
 
xbuzzerx said:
You yourself already answered that question in a previous post.

A 6th generation Welsh person in North America and a 6th generation English person in North America are not going to have anywhere near as much difference between them as a just-arrived Cambodian.
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No, I did not. Integration is not a negation of diversity, it just means everyone within the integrated culture has greater access to a broader cultural base. And I still think you're downplaying cultural differences that do exist between similar groups.
 
bankside said:
No, I did not. Integration is not a negation of diversity, it just means everyone within the integrated culture has greater access to a broader cultural base. And I still think you're downplaying cultural differences that do exist between similar groups.
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I'm saying they're matters of flavor compared to people from wholly different cultures, yes. And the reactions you're seeing in Europe to people actually from extremely different cultures, despite their vaunted claim to vast experience and success with multiculturalism living largely alongside and mixed in among various different Europeans, shows you that.

If you choose to believe that living next door to Welsh neighbors is like living next door to Hmong, you may choose to cling to that illusion.
 
star-warrior said:
1/32 part from great great great grandma Mary who went west because of the potato blight is enough for modern day folks.
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Why not?

Guillaume II, le Conquerant, also known as William the Bastard, was sixth generation French/Norman. Without Viking wives in the mix, ethnic/genetic history, Willy could only have been about 1/32 Viking [bloodline], himself, but look how his story/history is most often told. ;)
 
xbuzzerx said:
Nothing about my statement implied it only happened in Japan. However, in a way you're proving my point. The more people look and live alike in a society, the more these kinds of distinctions upon which to group people survive as things that actually hold any (real or imagined) relevant meaning. Let's say someone is a prejudiced snob in America. Their choice is between a neighborhood that is 95% white and a neighborhood that is 60% white. Do you think that person is going to stop and check how many people in the 95% white neighborhood are members of the Mayflower Society first? If the choice was between two 95% white neighborhoods, they just might.
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Yes, I can imagine that the aforementioned «prejudiced snob in America» is a white person.
But well, I live in an alleged ethnically homogenous country — in fact we have 6 autochthonous (white) minorities, and abt. 18% (chiefly POC) immigrants; anecdotally, in my vicinity, most of the immigrants are POC holding a 2nd, 3rd or 4th tier degree, and earning above median. — IDK, can I compare my situation with the USA, or can I not?

Actually, I cannot see a reason why white person in question wouldn't prefer the neighbourhood which has the better socioeconomic reputation — irrespective of whether the neighbourhood is 5% POC, or 40 % POC.
 
otters said:
Actually, I cannot see a reason why white person in question wouldn't prefer the neighbourhood which has the better socioeconomic reputation — irrespective of whether the neighbourhood is 5% POC, or 40 % POC.
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Socioeconomic reputation and racial makeup have enormous overlap in the U.S. with virtually every single group except northeast Asians. So it's silly to pretend there's many realistic situations out there where people are choosing between rich nonwhite neighborhoods and poor white ones on a consistent basis.

Additionally, Americans routinely regard non-white neighborhoods as "rough", "scary", or "dangerous" regardless of the actual real estate value. Didn't someone even post a thread here a couple of weeks ago about a phone app that came out to help "professionals" avoid "dangerous" neighborhoods?
 
xbuzzerx said:
Socioeconomic reputation and racial makeup have enormous overlap in the U.S. with virtually every single group except northeast Asians. So it's silly to pretend there's many realistic situations out there where people are choosing between rich nonwhite neighborhoods and poor white ones on a consistent basis.
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And yes, now you're proving my point; viz., how did we forget to focus on income disparity in the U.S.?
 
So then the worldwide average penis size is 5.4 inches.
One world, one penis.
 
otters said:
And yes, now you're proving my point; viz., how did we forget to focus on income disparity in the U.S.?
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There was no "forgetting it" but I'm not sure how a discussion of income disparity is not off the topic of measuring diversity.
 
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