badminton players disqualified for losing their games on purpose !!!

[Telstra]

I think this is not the players fault.
This is the organizers fault for not having knock out games like tennis.

The organizers should be charged and sued for poor planning.
What do you think ?

'Tanking' badminton players disqualified from Games - Yahoo!7 Sport

 

[gsdx]

It wasn't the organisers. The teams were purposefully losing so they wouldn't have to face tougher teams in future matches. If they lose, the other team goes against the better team. Neither wanted to go against the better team, so both teams were trying to lose.

 

[G-Lexington]

I thought that was called "losing smart".

Lex

 

[Telstra]

I understood all that.
Soccer players do fake injuries all the time.

They could easily do fake injuries and loose, then play the next match.
The system is at fault and not the players. Therefore the planners of this particular sport should be fired.

 

[moniker]

The badminton authorities for the countries obviously were giving instructions to the players. Bobby Fischer complained of the same thing in chess where the Russians would play easy games against each other to save their strength or to favor one of their own special players. The Chinese motto has always been "lie, cheat, and steal". They are stupid enough to believe that the world will think better of their squalid shit hole of a country just because they get a gold medal in some trivial sporting event.

 

[gsdx]

I understood all that.
Soccer players do fake injuries all the time.

They could easily do fake injuries and loose, then play the next match.
The system is at fault and not the players. Therefore the planners of this particular sport should be fired.

It's one thing to fake an injury. It's another for all 4 players to barely bounce the shuttlecock off the racket on a serve. Not one of the players managed to get the shuttlecock over the net. Besides, the Chinese coaches claimed their players were simply 'conserving their energy'. How much energy were they saving by dropping the shuttlecock onto the racket and letting it bounce to the court?

 

[refujiunderground]

after how the olympic commission robbed that poor 16 year old girl in the fencing tournament, i think the olympic committee should be investigated itself for rigging the games.

anybody saw what they did to that girl though? horrible. you can't tell me the olympic games aren't rigged after that.

 

[gsdx]

after how the olympic commission robbed that poor 16 year old girl in the fencing tournament, i think the olympic committee should be investigated itself for rigging the games.

anybody saw what they did to that girl though? horrible. you can't tell me the olympic games aren't rigged after that.

I saw it. Thirty minutes sitting there, waiting, crying. She couldn't leave. And then to grant the gold to her opponent because it had already been announced that she had won it fairly even after the timer had fucked up and the match was, technically, over.

No such controversy with the Japanese gymnastics team, though. Just goes to prove that you can fall off the pommel horse and win a silver.

 

[refujiunderground]

I saw it. Thirty minutes sitting there, waiting, crying. She couldn't leave. And then to grant the gold to her opponent because it had already been announced that she had won it fairly even after the timer had fucked up and the match was, technically, over.

No such controversy with the Japanese gymnastics team, though. Just goes to prove that you can fall off the pommel horse and win a silver.

terrible. i saw what happened with the japanese team. that was fucked up too. the guy messed up at the end of his performance and they were trying to contest it trying to get back the points he rightfully lost.

i noticed that when they were filing an appeal to the olympic commission that they were paying in what looked like american money. was it american money they were paying though? that to me is sort of weird being that the games are in london.

 

[gsdx]

i noticed that when they were filing an appeal to the olympic commission that they were paying in what looked like american money. was it american money they were paying though? that to me is sort of weird being that the games are in london.

They did, as would any team filing a complaint. In past Olympics, protests were a dime a dozen. Now, when they have to pay the commission, they do some serious thinking before they file the protest.

It may have looked like bribery, but it wasn't. (This was explained quite well by the Canadian broadcasters and in the Canadian news.)

 

[gsdx]

I saw it. Thirty minutes sitting there, waiting, crying. She couldn't leave. And then to grant the gold to her opponent because it had already been announced that she had won it fairly even after the timer had fucked up and the match was, technically, over.

I found this explanation:

With time running out in one of the two semifinal matches for the women’s individual epee competition, South Korea’s Shin A Lam led Germany’s Britta Heidemann by a single point. Officially, Heidemann had just one second to launch an attack and score a touch, which would advance her on to the gold medal match to face the Ukraine’s Yana Shemyakina, a lack of time which all but ensured that Shin would advance.

Instead, the timing mechanism on the piste became stuck, giving Heidemann extra time to complete her attack and win the bout, which earned her the spot in the gold-medal bout. Officials, unsure what to do without a true, official protocol to follow, eventually decided to award the victory to Heidemann.

Fencing controversy forces South Korean to sit on piste for ages, eventually costs her medal | Olympics Blog | an SFGate.com blog

Apparently the Olympic Committee offered Shin A Lam a 'special' medal, which she refused. She had won the match and would have moved to a gold-medal match and had lost the chance due to a faulty clock. She wanted her chance to fight for the gold. I don't blame her.

Protocol be damned. Do the right thing and make that the new protocol. Don't grant a medal to someone who didn't earn it and give it to the person who did.

Reminds me of that basketball travesty when the medal passed back and forth several times.

 

[Telstra]

I love some comments from sports fans:

Quote:
1/ the organising committee are full of #$%$ they knew they stuffed up, but they tried to blame
on the girls instead. bunch of old fool

2/ Don't blame on the Asian or Westerners. Better to blame it on the official who set out the rules that were not clear, which created a black-hole for players to dive into for their advantages. We are all human, when come to competition, every one wants to win and if we found out a better way to have a better change of winning, I think most of us would go for it, regardless of Asian or Western. If you don't think so, take this example, when you do your tax return at the end of the financial year and if you know or found out that there is a giant black hole to save you not to pay so much taxes and save you lots of dollars, would't you dive into it?. If your answer is NO, then you either came from outerspace or been drug or just simply stupid. Set the rules clear and leave no room for excuses. Those BADMINTON'S OFFICIAL should disqualified themselve and leave.

3/If the rules are open to abuse, then it is not a good rule. The Badminton World Federation and the I.O.C in particular should have foreseen the problem. It is not in the Olympic spirit that the players did what they did. It is difficult to win a game when you know it is poison chalice. I suppose they could have played an exhibition match and tank it at the same time.

 

[gsdx]

I love some comments from sports fans:

How long do you think a cricket match would go if the bowlers dropped the ball to the ground at their feet? How long before paying spectators would get pissed off at them? The badminton players were throwing the game so they wouldn't have to play Denmark.

They were warned and told to play, and they didn't. The officials had to make their message clear. If you don't play in the spirit of the Olympics, you don't belong there.

 

[refujiunderground]

Yep, that girl had some injustice dealt to her. In that, those judges are complete idiots.

And yes, the new appeal filing process is odd now.

I found this explanation:



Fencing controversy forces South Korean to sit on piste for ages, eventually costs her medal | Olympics Blog | an SFGate.com blog

Apparently the Olympic Committee offered Shin A Lam a 'special' medal, which she refused. She had won the match and would have moved to a gold-medal match and had lost the chance due to a faulty clock. She wanted her chance to fight for the gold. I don't blame her.

Protocol be damned. Do the right thing and make that the new protocol. Don't grant a medal to someone who didn't earn it and give it to the person who did.

Reminds me of that basketball travesty when the medal passed back and forth several times.

hell yeah, they really need to put a probe on the olympic committee though. it's all suspect.

 

[Telstra]

How long do you think a cricket match would go if the bowlers dropped the ball to the ground at their feet? How long before paying spectators would get pissed off at them? The badminton players were throwing the game so they wouldn't have to play Denmark.

They were warned and told to play, and they didn't. The officials had to make their message clear. If you don't play in the spirit of the Olympics, you don't belong there.

I didn't see that match.
However, i remember some Olympic officials treat athletes like shit.
These officials should not be there. They should do something else like gardening.

Anyway, the system is at fault. It should be a knock out game like tennis.
Oh and the spectators, they are stupid. They should blame the rules as well and demand a refund.

 

[Axxess]

Good. If you're not going to give it your all, then you shouldn't be playing.

 

[DeafFoxDemon]

I read that 8 players have been kick out rom the game

 

[gsdx]

I read that 8 players have been kick out rom the game

Yes. Four teams: 2 from China, 1 each from South Korea and Indonesia. Apparently it's a common practice in lower levels of the sport:

LONDON - When the Badminton World Federation disqualified eight players from the Olympic Games for match-fixing Wednesday, it parted a curtain on a simmering debate about whether it is a widespread tactic that has long shadowed the obscure Olympic sport.

Niels Nygaard, president of Denmark's National Olympic Committee, said throwing matches has become all too common in international badminton and it might not have been addressed in such public way had it not occurred in the Olympics.

"It had never been penalized in this way before,'' Nygaard said.

Badminton scandal exposes widespread tactic at lower levels

 

[Telstra]

"Niels Nygaard, president of Denmark's National Olympic Committee, said throwing matches has become all too common in international badminton. It had never been penalized in this way before "

If that is the case, isn't this the badminton's administrators fault ?

 

[gsdx]

If that is the case, isn't this the badminton's administrators fault ?

Yes, it is, but the International Olympics Committee has nothing to do with the individual events. Throwing games intentionally in order to advance may be common practice, but it goes against the spirit of the Olympic Games. That's why the teams were sent home. The IOC was sending them the message that such behaviour would not be tolerated at Olympic level.

Losing games intentionally in order to go against a weaker opponent is tantamount to cheating.