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Bale: "I will quit Batman as soon Robin steps in"

Re: Bale: "I will quit Batman as soon Robin steps

Sidekicks suck. Especially a little boy named after a little bird, who used to be in the circus.

I much prefer Alfred and Morgan Freeman's character as being Batman's support system. They're much more believable. There's no need for Robin whatsoever.

And yes, Batman Returns was a gem.
 
Re: Bale: "I will quit Batman as soon Robin steps

Sidekicks suck. Especially a little boy named after a little bird, who used to be in the circus.

I much prefer Alfred and Morgan Freeman's character as being Batman's support system. They're much more believable. There's no need for Robin whatsoever.

And yes, Batman Returns was a gem.

Comics aren't about "believability" One must have the willful suspension of disbelief when dealing with sci-fi or comics.
 
Re: Bale: "I will quit Batman as soon Robin steps

Well, I for one, support Bale's position for this. Bringing in Robin would be the death of the series, unless they bring him in for one film.

Which actually might not be a bad idea for the third film and Two Face. Anybody that has read the comics knows that Robin (Jason Todd) and Two Face have some history, as Two Face killed his father.

The film could feature Todd attempting to get his life back together, being adopted by Bruce, discovering Bruce's secret, then becoming Robin. The film could feature him assist Batman in crime-fighting, with the desire of eventually capturing Two Face and killing him for revenge for his father.

At the end, he could go after Two Face on his own, find him and corner him ... but only to discover he was led into a trap, which would result in Two Face killing him, to Bruce's horror. Bruce would then vow never to embrace a sidekick ever again ... which will end any future Robin's in the series.

That's the only way Robin could work in the series is if it is a 1 time only appearance, and it is a dark version of Robin ... with an equally dark fate awaiting him.
 
Re: Bale: "I will quit Batman as soon Robin steps

Well, I for one, support Bale's position for this. Bringing in Robin would be the death of the series, unless they bring him in for one film and kill him by the end.

Which actually might not be a bad idea for the third film and Two Face. Anybody that has read the comics knows that Robin (Jason Todd) and Two Face have some history, as Two Face killed his father.

The film could feature Todd attempting to get his life back together, being adopted by Bruce, discovering Bruce's secret, then becoming Robin. The film could feature him assist Batman in crime-fighting, with the desire of eventually capturing Two Face and killing him for revenge for his father.

At the end, he could corner Two Face, but only to discover he was led into a trap, which would result in Two Face killing him, to Bruce's horror. Bruce would then vow never to embrace a sidekick ever again ... which will end any future Robin's in the series.

That's the only way Robin could work in the series is if it is a 1 time only appearance, and it is a dark version of Robin ... with an equally dark fate awaiting him.
In the comics, it is Joker who kills Robin though. I think he kills the second Robin.
 
Re: Bale: "I will quit Batman as soon Robin steps

In the comics, it is Joker who kills Robin though. I think he kills the second Robin.

That is correct. But, as we know, even Bale's movies have deviated quite a bit from the comics already. It has the same dark feel to it, but the stories have not followed the comics, at all, for the most part.
 
Re: Bale: "I will quit Batman as soon Robin steps

That is correct. But, as we know, even Bale's movies somewhat deviate from the comics.
True, but that would be a huge deviation from the legend.
 
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True, but that would be a huge deviation from the legend.

You mean just like the birth of the Joker in this one, being that all he does is paint his face? No mention of the Red Hood. No Axis Chemical Factory. No vat of chemicals. A batarang across the mouth apparently is the cause of Joker going insane. Etc.

Need I go on?
 
Re: Bale: "I will quit Batman as soon Robin steps

You mean just like the birth of the Joker in this one, being that all he does is paint his face?
Do you know that? I mean it may seem like they give a lot of information in the previews, but we don't really know yet. We don't even know how Ledger's Joker will truely act. Will he be more evil and sinister, or little more like the Joker in the original animated series.

Plus, killing off the first Robin would be kind of wrong. Seeing how he is suppose to go on to be Nightwing and all. And randomly inserting the second Robin into the third or fourth film would make a lot of people mad.

This is just my opinion though.
 
Re: Bale: "I will quit Batman as soon Robin steps

Do you know that? I mean it may seem like they give a lot of information in the previews, but we don't really know yet. We don't even know how Ledger's Joker will truely act. Will he be more evil and sinister, or little more like the Joker in the original animated series.

Plus, killing off the first Robin would be kind of wrong. Seeing how he is suppose to go on to be Nightwing and all. And randomly inserting the second Robin into the third or fourth film would make a lot of people mad.

This is just my opinion though.

Well, then make it Dick Grayson. I only mention Todd, because fans seem to despise Dick Grayson's version of Robin.

These films are not entirely following the comics, which is my point.
 
Re: Bale: "I will quit Batman as soon Robin steps

Well, then make it Dick Grayson. I only mention Todd, because fans seem to despise Dick Grayson's version of Robin.

These films are not entirely following the comics, which is my point.
I gueeeesss so. I would still prefer it be Joker though, just for accuracy. And to save bandwidth from the fans who are gonna scream bloody murder for going so far away from the comic.
 
Re: Bale: "I will quit Batman as soon Robin steps

Funny, excluding the old Batman classics, the movie "Batman & Robin" did not introduce Robin; he was introduced in "Batman Forever". Batgirl was introduced in "Batman & Robin". It's too bad Bale doesn't want Nolan to attempt having a good Robin. But the batgirl idea has always been cheesey, so that is where I would draw the line.
 
Re: Bale: "I will quit Batman as soon Robin steps

Funny, excluding the old Batman classics, the movie "Batman & Robin" did not introduce Robin; he was introduced in "Batman Forever". Batgirl was introduced in "Batman & Robin".

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. Who in the thread claimed that Robin was introduced in Batman & Robin, as opposed to Batman Forever?
 
Re: Bale: "I will quit Batman as soon Robin steps

It would be like saying Sure I'll play Han Solo but if you insist on Chewbaca than I won't play the part... COME ON. It's a fundamental part of the cannon. How can you say one man dressing up like a damn fool and fighting crime is perfectly logical but TWO now you're just going too far... that's madness. I mean it's not suppose to be entirely plausable or logical. It's a superhero movie.
 
Re: Bale: "I will quit Batman as soon Robin steps

I'm with a post earlier, I was looking forward to seeing the way the current Batman team would bring in Robin in to the new series and am a little upset Bale is so against Robin being in the movie.

I'll still hold out some hope that a script and story that introduces Robin, that is good enough for Bale to agree to be in it. Also while it kinda upsets me it doesn't diminish my love of Christian Bale.
 
Re: Bale: "I will quit Batman as soon Robin steps

It would be like saying Sure I'll play Han Solo but if you insist on Chewbaca than I won't play the part... COME ON. It's a fundamental part of the cannon. How can you say one man dressing up like a damn fool and fighting crime is perfectly logical but TWO now you're just going too far... that's madness. I mean it's not suppose to be entirely plausable or logical. It's a superhero movie.

Its not about having two costumed crime fighters. Its only that a bat inspires fear. But what does a robin inspire? Laughter?

You're right, it is a comic book movie, but because of the tone of the Nolan movies, I just don't think Robin would work.
 
Re: Bale: "I will quit Batman as soon Robin steps

I can totally see why Bale would be against adding a Robin. It's the 'All About Eve" syndrome with Christian as Margo Channing, being usurped by his understudly (pun intended, because you know they'd have to try for realism and actually cast a viable gymnast as Robin!) as the draw (hey,it's happening now with Heath, but for much sadder reasons) for at least some of the fanbase.
Yes, Robin, Batgirl, et al can be cheesy, but they CAN be done well. Basically, Robin is less sidekick than apprentice. Batman is fighting a dangerous war on crime, a war he has to see might kill him at some point, but a war he wants to eventually see resolved with his side the victor. One way to help ensure that his mission continues is to train someone who has suffered a similar loss to his own. Robin need not be 'silly', nor does he need to be the chip-on-his-shoulder-guy from the previous movies. Squire to the Dark Knight is more his role, eventually taking up the mantle himself. (The problem with the comics, of course, is no one can take over for the Batman, as he's trademarked forever.)
 
Re: Bale: "I will quit Batman as soon Robin steps

Batgirl would be better to introduce.

Robin doesn't work on the big screen...Batman Forever tired to make him edgy/cool, and it fell flat.
 
Re: Bale: "I will quit Batman as soon Robin steps

Batgirl would be better to introduce.

Robin doesn't work on the big screen...Batman Forever tired to make him edgy/cool, and it fell flat.

Are you out of your mind?? What have you been putting in that tea overseas?

Robin is bad enough ... and you want to introduce Batgirl?

Why don't we just bring in the Bat-hound from the old comics while we're at it?
 
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