Christian gay men and women go to great lengths to reconcile their psychosexual orientation with their religious beliefs. It's a futile exercise, alas. The Bible is very clear what God thinks about "men who lie with men." When I came out, I knew I had to make a choice between God and gay. I chucked the former and went with the latter. As a result, I now revel in my own accomplishments and take my lumps for my mistakes like a man.
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Being Christian and Gay?
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Hi again, Greg.
If literally, you mean God put man on earth to be fruitful and multiply and that's an issue, consider the fact thats ome people just can't. Some women are infertile, some men are sterile, and sometimes people just don't choose to have children. Sometimes people use contraception.
In fact, not all animals get the chance to mate. Sometimes they
re beaten out by another animal tht's better.
When I think about God saying "Be fruitful and multiply", it's a way of saying that He wanted us to thrive in the world He gave us. Certainly, when I pot a plant or place one in a garden, I wish for it to live and thrive in where I've placed it, and whether or not it reproduces is one thing, but the important thing is that I wish it well to live and grow where I've placed it and that's what I feel the "be fruitful and multiply" statement means. It just means, as Star Trek fans would know, "Live long and prosper".
God loves us and when He created thef irst two figuratively or literally He sent us off with good tidings and the way of sayingt hat is that hopefully, people will be able to flourish in the land He's given us.
So I don't see it literally as a mandate that all humans should procreate and that to do something other than that would be a violation of nature.
That brings us to the 'sin of spilling the seed' and I feel like that is covered by what was absolved in Leviticus. Because though Onan may have been killed by God, and though Leviticus may call for a cleansing after an accidental seminal emmission (such as a wet dream), Christ absolved those laws and so the spilling of the seed (or what I interpret to mean the emmition of semen without the purpose/intent of reproduction) is no longer a sin. Therefore, masturbating is not a sin, sex for the purpose of pleasure or love is not a sin, and certainly neither is having an uncontrolled nocturnal seminal emmission or wet dream.
As for where your aunt gets her information, many specials about homosexuality may be biased, but the science is still leading science and history is objective fact. I really think that you should speak with her if you ever get the chance to talk with her alone and also do some research on it from the scientific and social perspective, maybe at a library or something. That will give you a perspective on what homosexuality is outside of your religion.
Because the Bible doesn't say why homoexuality happens or where it comes from, it only says in some older parts that the act (and interestingly enough, only the male-male act and not the female-female act) is wrong.
As for her, if she's not going to budge, it's her right not to, just as your family won't budge from their religious perspective. And remember that her point of view is also composed of her own experience, how she feels about it deep down and what she knows about herself and that is more truthful than something on TV or what someone who doesn't know could argue with.
Keep exploring, kiddo
If literally, you mean God put man on earth to be fruitful and multiply and that's an issue, consider the fact thats ome people just can't. Some women are infertile, some men are sterile, and sometimes people just don't choose to have children. Sometimes people use contraception.
In fact, not all animals get the chance to mate. Sometimes they
re beaten out by another animal tht's better.
When I think about God saying "Be fruitful and multiply", it's a way of saying that He wanted us to thrive in the world He gave us. Certainly, when I pot a plant or place one in a garden, I wish for it to live and thrive in where I've placed it, and whether or not it reproduces is one thing, but the important thing is that I wish it well to live and grow where I've placed it and that's what I feel the "be fruitful and multiply" statement means. It just means, as Star Trek fans would know, "Live long and prosper".
God loves us and when He created thef irst two figuratively or literally He sent us off with good tidings and the way of sayingt hat is that hopefully, people will be able to flourish in the land He's given us.
So I don't see it literally as a mandate that all humans should procreate and that to do something other than that would be a violation of nature.
That brings us to the 'sin of spilling the seed' and I feel like that is covered by what was absolved in Leviticus. Because though Onan may have been killed by God, and though Leviticus may call for a cleansing after an accidental seminal emmission (such as a wet dream), Christ absolved those laws and so the spilling of the seed (or what I interpret to mean the emmition of semen without the purpose/intent of reproduction) is no longer a sin. Therefore, masturbating is not a sin, sex for the purpose of pleasure or love is not a sin, and certainly neither is having an uncontrolled nocturnal seminal emmission or wet dream.
As for where your aunt gets her information, many specials about homosexuality may be biased, but the science is still leading science and history is objective fact. I really think that you should speak with her if you ever get the chance to talk with her alone and also do some research on it from the scientific and social perspective, maybe at a library or something. That will give you a perspective on what homosexuality is outside of your religion.
Because the Bible doesn't say why homoexuality happens or where it comes from, it only says in some older parts that the act (and interestingly enough, only the male-male act and not the female-female act) is wrong.
As for her, if she's not going to budge, it's her right not to, just as your family won't budge from their religious perspective. And remember that her point of view is also composed of her own experience, how she feels about it deep down and what she knows about herself and that is more truthful than something on TV or what someone who doesn't know could argue with.
Keep exploring, kiddo
Hi Greg, even though you joined back in March, you haven't posted much so I'll take this chance to say Welcome. 
You posted a very interesting post.
I would agree with nwdavis in that I think it would be good to talk to your lesbian aunt. I don't think you're thinking anything she hasn't already pondered. I can guarantee you it would be a fascinating discussion.
There's nothing wrong with being gay and being a Christian. Millions all over the world do it--it's not really that hard to do. Don't pick and choose passages from the Bible that persecute you. Define love and goodness and holiness for yourself. Develop a personal relationship with your God. Don't let 17th century translators do it for you.
Good luck. Since this has become more of a religion and spirituality discussion more than it is a coming out one, I'm taking the liberty of moving this thread to that forum.
You posted a very interesting post.I would agree with nwdavis in that I think it would be good to talk to your lesbian aunt. I don't think you're thinking anything she hasn't already pondered. I can guarantee you it would be a fascinating discussion.
There's nothing wrong with being gay and being a Christian. Millions all over the world do it--it's not really that hard to do. Don't pick and choose passages from the Bible that persecute you. Define love and goodness and holiness for yourself. Develop a personal relationship with your God. Don't let 17th century translators do it for you.
Good luck. Since this has become more of a religion and spirituality discussion more than it is a coming out one, I'm taking the liberty of moving this thread to that forum.