BelAmi twins do it with each other

[haberfuckingdashery]

Re: Meet The Twins!

This is hotter than the top of a metal hood of a truck in the middle of Summer.

do you think this is hotter than hell?

ive read your many posts about jesus' final judgement day and how your waiting for it. so you think incest is ok? it's hot?

based on your posts sounds to me like you're a fucking psycho

 

[BlueLantern]

I have every right to my opinion.
And we could use the same arguement for fathers fucking their sons and daughters if they are all of legal age. How is that any different?

When you put out stuff like this and expect there to be a backlash, don't be surprised when people voice their opinion. Let's not get all hypocritical.

If my criticism is out of line, then I think that yours is out of line too.

I have a right to have opinion about your opinion, and my opinion is that your opinion is wrong ^^

I do think you are way out of line when comparing this with bestiality and makes you sound too much like the self-righteous homophobes that also compare homosexuality with bestiality.

Also, if you are so grossed out why do you keep coming back to here? What do you hope to achieve? do you think anyone will realize the errors of the ways and be converted to your rightfull and goody-good side? Or you just likes to come here and act superior?

 

[Críostóir]

Genetic inbreeding is not the only problem with incest. All the other problems with incest apply just as much to same-sex couples as opposite-sex couples.

If you read my earlier post, I go through some of those problems. What ones do you think still apply to adult identical twins who are already porn stars? I'm really asking; I don't understand.

Fucking gross and disgusting. I don't give a rat's ass what anyone says. There comes a point when you look at something and say "wtf"? I hope their dicks fall off.

I don't. But I will voice my displeasure. I have that right. People can say gay porn is gross. But you know, the APA agrees that it's not a mental disease. But let's look up what the APA says about incest.

But I'm out. I don't plan on wasting any more of my time on this disgusting rubbish. This is equal to beastiality IMO. Except only one person knows it's wrong. Can't say the same for these two scumbags.

Elvin1, I hope you know I like and respect you. I don't understand why you think this is so wrong. While I certainly wouldn't have sex with any of my brothers, I'm not a twin...there are lots of people I wouldn't have sex with who others clearly would.

I understand the taboo. Are you reacting to that, or is there some logical rationale to this? Again, this isn't a rhetorical question or an attempt to belittle you in any way; I really want to know if there's someone getting hurt here, someone who didn't consent or whose consent was somehow tainted, etc. that I missed.

I guess given that I grew up in a society where homosexuality was considered justification for "hoping someone's dick falls off," I'm trying to base my morality and ethics on reasonable criteria: in general, I feel that if there's no victim, there's no crime; no harm, no foul.

Do you fundamentally disagree with that underlying principle, or do you see a victim here, or is something else going on that I don't understand?

When I first saw this, I really thought some people would find it hot, some not, and that probably the most negative reaction would be "incest, that's creepy." But you're calling them scumbags, a term I generally reserve for people who do great harm deliberately or through depraved indifference to the welfare of others. I'd really like to understand why.

 

[Críostóir]

I don't buy the comparison to bestiality either. No animal can really consent, or withhold consent, from a human, because they just aren't sufficiently able to communicate, and don't have the mental capacity to make these choices. It's like the case of children, only more so*: their NONconsent must be assumed.

Therefore I think of bestiality as a form of animal abuse. Now I think raising animals for food, fur, and skin is fine (though I'm a vegetarian myself), so I'm not a PETAphile, but some forms of mistreatment cross the line, and this is one.

No such thing is happening with twincest between consenting adults, especially ones who are already porn stars.
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* In the sense that animals won't even be able to tell you years later if they thought it was OK, or what it meant to them, or how it hurt them. Children should absolutely be protected from exploitation by adults; it's the logical barrier to giving consent that's "more so" here, not the need for protection (and obviously, not being a PETAphile, I think protecting children is much more important than protecting animals, which I think is pretty important).

 

[Críostóir]

Thank you for answering so thoughtfully. It seems mostly taboo-related, in that it's based on feelings.

One question: how do you think it will affect them in the future? Given that they've done everything BUT have sex with each other on camera before?

(Side issue: Looking at them I think they're a lot older than 18, but it's hard to know the real age of a porn star. I know of one who's been claiming to be 18 for at least four years.)

 

[Críostóir]

Well, family for one. I don't think that they are doing their parents or siblings any favors here. Imagine being their parent? I know I would be crushed.

Work, what happens when people find out they did incest porn and fucked each other?

Friends, how would they feel about it?

Lovers, partners, what happens when they find out? Will they want to be with one of them knowing that their brother might always be part of their lives romantically or sexually? And I don't mean as a threesome. I mean as couples. What happens when one of them moves on from this? Where does the other one go?

If they have a romantic relationship, where do they take it? Do they get married? Do they introduce themselves as husbands?

Think about it that way. I'm sure no one thinks about that but just the act of them having sex.

Most of that is either the same for any porn star, or the same for anyone with a prior romantic involvement. The differences are based on the taboo.

I remember when I came out to my mother, she said she worried about how society would treat me. While the worries you express are certainly realistic, they strike me as being in that same vein.

All that said, I too worry that people are always doing things that have far-reaching consequences on their lives. People who become porn stars at 18 always worry me; what job will they have when they're 35? 45? Now that the internet is forever, what happens to them?

People get huge tattoos and strange body mods. Permanent and obvious, and often really hideous.

I do have some concerns about these guys. But they're adults and they've made a choice. It may not have been a good choice, but it's theirs to make, and it's not "wrong" in a moral sense because of that. I watch twink porn and sometimes feel bad for the guys afterwards, but I do watch it.

Anyway...thanks again for your thoughtful response. I wish more people would discuss these things calmly, even when the underlying issue is explosive. I have a much better understanding of where you're coming from now, and I couldn't have gotten there by joining in the general shouting match of this thread.

 

[TimWhite07]

I think elvin1 is right to a point. I mean i dont dislike this kind of incest. But i dont think i will go out of my way to find and watch it. If i happen to find it sure, i might watch if i think the guys are hot.

It is a fetish kind of things. Just like he said the fathers and sons thing. I know there is porn out there that says "Son fucking father" but i dont think it is really true. It is another thing that gets some guys off.

Everyone has their right to voice their opinion. If not then whats the point of a forum.

However, i do think this was a little over the top.

I hope their dicks fall off.

Im not trying to piss you off Elvin1. im really not. But i was always raised to never wish anything bad one someone else.

You said something about family and friends finding out. You have a good point. But im not sure they would or are in a relationship. It is a porn site and they are porn stars/actors. So it was a job. The job just happened to be with his brother. Im sure they weighed all the opinions when they said yes. And i aggree with you. if this does affect them, then Bel Ami should help them out.



I truly hope i didnt not make you made with that, it was not my intent. and if i did i do apologize.

 

[bankside]

These are not "societal norms" i am mindlessly parroting. They are my norms. I would recommend them as the norms of other people.

The incestuous relationship is not "another way of being brothers." It replaces a brotherly relationship with something else entirely, and deprives people of the chance to be brothers.

 

[AusDragon]

The incestuous relationship is not "another way of being brothers." It replaces a brotherly relationship with something else entirely, and deprives people of the chance to be brothers.

But that really depends on the two people themselves. Who is to say that these two guys aren't actually capible of having a normal brotherly relationship aswell as an intiment relationship. I'm not saying that you are completely wrong in your way of thinking, I am just pointing out that not everyone sees the world through your eyes.

 

[PabloZed]

Diesel Washington has the twins on his blog. They are in Florida and he met them when they arrived. He said he will post a video later. I don't think I am assuming too much when I predict those boys are going to make a ton of money on this trip because some very rich guys are going to pay top dollar to do them both at the same time.

http://www.dieselwashingtonxxx.com/

 

[irydion]

Re: Meet The Twins!

forgeting that these two will never be able to go forwards in their lives without ever looking back at this point of their lives...

well, they won't if the society won't frow upon them and / or harm them. And if it will, it shall be the society's fault, not theirs.
They didn't hurt anyone by their action. No victim, no blame.

 

[gayron]

Fucking gross and disgusting. I don't give a rat's ass what anyone says. There comes a point when you look at something and say "wtf"? I hope their dicks fall off.

Why the hell? They arent harming anyone.

 

[lovespells]

i find it funny that people that find this sick clicked onto this....
If I saw a post that said PEOPLE SHITTING IN MOUTHS... I sure as hell wouldnt click on it. Even to comment. but since its interesting in the back of their mind I see why they dont wanna admit it. Its not like Im fucking my brother. theyre doing it themselves....
Doublestandard!!! btw. look at str8 guys and TWINS (Scary Movie 4 LOL TAWIIIINSSSSSS!!!!)

 

[smiffy72]

Do you think that maybe, just maybe this thread belongs in other sections of this forum? Maybe in the Fetish or Incest section? Or maybe it belongs in the "People shitting in mouths" section? No flame section? Where people who enjoy this and find it hot can enjoy it without people voicing their opinions on it? Just favorable ones? Perhaps?

Doesn't make the slightest difference which forum it gets posted in -- you'll always get judgemental gays leaving comments like "disgusting" "sick" "gross" "ewww" etc.

 

[KnightRider]

There is no inequity in a relationship with twins as there is father/son. And men are more sexual than women so there is more likely to be something wrong if it's a brother/sister incest relationship. Incest is appealing because it's as close as you can get with intimacy, seeing as how you share the same DNA, looks and background. With porn, there is always a degree of knowing it's a set-up and the performers are doing what they are doing for money. With brothers, there is a presumption that the sex is genuine. Which makes it a notch hotter.

I'll be watching this video a lot, bravo Bel Ami

 

[smiffy72]

It's a fetish and it belongs in the fetish forum. Just like fathers fucking sons. Or brothers with brothers. It's "incest" after all.

In that case why don't you ask the mods to move it to that forum.

And there a mod will delete whatever posts aren't appropriate.

They don't delete comments like the ones I previously quoted. You obviously don't frequent the fetish forum.

 

[BelAmiOnline]

thanks elfin for toning it to a rational explanation of what you don't like rather than the more extreme earlier version. We've always accepted that this is not for everyone. To try and give it a perspective though, these guys think of themselves as one person in two bodies, (maybe that downgrades it to mere masturbation) and don't share the same inhibitions that some of you do. Also please remember that this is not something illegal, the world is a bigger place than the US and different countries have different laws. Here it may be going against social norms, but it is not breaking any law. It is natural that we are all influenced by our society and upbringing, but that does not mean that any individual opinion is any more right than another. Tolerance breeds a better world.

 

[Mariatenebre]

I'm not reading something that relates to old primitive living conditions that are no longer relevant . I won't waste my time or energy reading some lame excuse to justify a morbid act that is far over the moon today. But I will point something out. You're irritated with me because I'm calling out an injustice? Or what I feel is injustice? Are you serious? If you showed any normal person this, you would probably get knocked out. I'm so lucky twisted people like you all aren't the majority. If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.

I'm done.

Oh please cut out the bullshit. There is nothing morbid or wrong about incest. It hurts no one and if it is between two consensual adults there is no problem. The fact that you call this an injustice shows your stupidity. Injustice is when people's individual rights are violated not when two people you don't approve of have sex. Plus if you showed any "normal" person gay porn you would get knocked out, this means nothing. What rational reason do you have to be against incent if these people are doing it consensually and no one is getting hurt? You have none you are just a bigot who like all of them substitute your emotions for your rationality.

 

[uncutmuscleboston]

To each its own!
Live and let live!

 

[torontoguy22]

i can't open the original link. whats with all the ***