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Bernie and Hillary split the delegates in Wyoming.

What is so wrong with Wall Street? Delaware is the problem. Do you understand why?
 
offthewall14420 said:
Had to hold your nose to vote for a black politician?
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Yes...and the only reason I voted for him is because I loved his black preacher..Reverend Wright...and I figured it he liked Wright there must be more t him than I had seen.. I though Obama was too conservative...same with Hillary....he has since persuaded me and in 2012 I did not have to hold my nose. She persuaded me as SOS.

BTW...skin color is irrelevant. I couldn't even plug my nose for Ben Carson. :eek:
 
eastofeden said:
You are so full of shit dude.

I certainly didn't support her or Obama in 2008...but I voted for Obama with my nose plugged.

A vagina certainly didn't get me to vote for Sarah Palin...or Meg Whitman...but in general..I like most Democrat women and men to some degree....

Same circumstances..I definitely would vote for a man for the same reason I like Hillary. Statesmanship..and she can wipe the floor with any of them from either side of the aisle....

I don't give a fuck if you can't understand that.

..and FYI...you don't get to define the issues for me or anyone else but yourself.

So...just curious....when did my "gayness" take over and force me to vote for a vagina? I am also curious....were you always a misogynist or are you new to the game?
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Truth hurts, doesn't it?

White male politician named "Joe Smith" ... you and the Feminist supporters wouldn't give a second thought to. As far as the Palin or Carly comments, it obviously would have to first be a Democrat that has an attractive platform. But you provide the platform, then that is when gender preferences come into play.

Joe Smith ... nope. Doesn't have the anatomy you would prefer a President have. Don't worry though, as you aren't alone ... and that is the sad thing.
 
Kabluey said:
Nobody was saying it about Carly Fiorina.

On the contrary it seems some Bernie supporters (the Bernie Bros) are anti-women.
It's not as though gay = falls for women (or falls for unqualified slogans).
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If someone doesn't believe voting for a Presidential candidate entails giving women, Black candidates, Hispanic candidates, Asian candidates, Gay candidates, etc. "extra consideration" because of their status, then feel free to call me "anti women".

America moves forward and we actually mature as a country when these ludicrous characteristics aren't considered.
 
MystikWizard said:
Truth hurts, doesn't it?
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YOUR "truth" doesn't hurt me at all. ...neither does mine.

White male politician named "Joe Smith" ... you and the Feminist supporters wouldn't give a second thought to. As far as the Palin or Carly comments, it obviously would have to first be a Democrat that has an attractive platform. But you provide the platform, then that is when gender preferences come into play.
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Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I already said I did not support her in 2008. I supported Dennis Kucinich..a WHITE MAN..so get the fuck over it. Telling me who I am is never gonna work. I didn't let straight people define me so I am sure as hell not gonna let you do it

Joe Smith ... nope. Doesn't have the anatomy you would prefer a President have. Don't worry though, as you aren't alone ... and that is the sad thing.
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Yeah..whatever...keep telling yourself that...
 
Honestly come on, this stupid notion that people are only voting for Hillary as a woman is as stupid as people who are voting for Obama because he was black. I am sure that it mattered to people more of a degree than others, but what is funny about these claims is that they are coming from people who will not for Hillary either because she is a woman or that is a part of it, same thing with Obama.

So when you make these kinds of claims that people are voting for Hillary because she is a woman or they did Obama because he is black, it actually reflects on you pretty negatively. Most people are not that fickle to just vote for someone based on that but yes that does matter to people but it is more of a cherry on top with all the other things they like about the candidate.
 
MakeDigitalLove said:
...but what is funny about these claims is that they are coming from people who will not for Hillary either because she is a woman or that is a part of it, same thing with Obama.
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Bingo. Got it in one there.

Clinton is a formidable figure in global politics, regardless of gender. Plenty of people are wanting (desperately) for her popularity to be based on something trivial, like girl power.
 
MystikWizard said:
If someone doesn't believe voting for a Presidential candidate entails giving women, Black candidates, Hispanic candidates, Asian candidates, Gay candidates, etc. "extra consideration" because of their status, then feel free to call me "anti women".

America moves forward and we actually mature as a country when these ludicrous characteristics aren't considered.
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I suppose you could say the same thing about all the straight, white males who only vote for the white guy.

And yeah...you have made it clear on numerous occasions that you are anti-women.

So it goes.
 
Kabluey said:
Bingo. Got it in one there.

Clinton is a formidable figure in global politics, regardless of gender. Plenty of people are wanting (desperately) for her popularity to be based on something trivial, like girl power.
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I have my problems with her and even with that I will vote for her if she gets the Nom. But her gender has absolutely nothing to do with anything and when someone uses her gender as means as a problem even if they have legitimate problems with her, it only weakens the foundation of the real issues one has with her.
 
MakeDigitalLove said:
Honestly come on, this stupid notion that people are only voting for Hillary as a woman is as stupid as people who are voting for Obama because he was black.
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You think that didn't happen to a large degree, too? Sure it did. The amount of African American support for Obama and you don't think that by and large had mostly to do with race? It was overwhelming. Now, it just so happens as a White Man that I supported Obama for both of his terms and still do. However, to claim this isn't what was overwhelmingly factored into why his support among African Americans was as high as it was is ludicrous.

Now, why the notion we are seeing women vote in such high numbers for Hillary is certainly not any different. It's the exact same concept.

And for those who think we really aren't that dumbed down as a society to do such things in large numbers, I have some beachfront property in Kansas I would love to sell you.


So when you make these kinds of claims that people are voting for Hillary because she is a woman or they did Obama because he is black, it actually reflects on you pretty negatively. Most people are not that fickle to just vote for someone based on that but yes that does matter to people but it is more of a cherry on top with all the other things they like about the candidate.
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Don't be naive. It's happening in large numbers. It happened with African American support for Obama as it did with women in 2008 with Hillary, and it is happening again with Hillary. Although, some of her support has dwindled over the years due to newer, younger women who fortunately show some promise by getting this ridiculous criteria out of their minds in why they think anyone deserves special recognition for such criteria.

Hillary Clinton is now a white male named Joe Smith with the exact same record, flaws, taking millions from corporate interests, caught lying on multiple occasions, charges exuberant speaking fees, and someone wants to tell me with a straight face they would be as fascinated with this person as they would be if the candidate was a woman named Hillary Clinton? Not born yesterday and the answer is obvious to anyone who is truly impartial.

Again, I am grateful for a majority of the younger voters who are showing some promise in how to select candidates versus middle to older voters who "I want to vote who I identify with" or "I still think I am living through the Women's Rights Era of the 60's and need to see a Woman President regardless of her character so that at least I could see it happen. Then, the government will run dramatically different with a woman in the White House".

Calling me "anti women" doesn't phase me one single bit. My conscious is clear. No special treatment for racial or gender reasons, but take vehement exception to those that do.
 
MystikWizard said:
Calling me "anti women" doesn't phase me one single bit. My conscious is clear. No special treatment for racial or gender reasons, but take vehement exception to those that do.
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Does that vehement exception include the huge numbers of white people who will ONLY vote for a white male?
 
eastofeden said:
Does that vehement exception include the huge numbers of white people who will ONLY vote for a white male?
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We live in a day and age where a woman or man, black or white and I would hope Hispanic can be elected to the White House. When I see an honest female candidate like Elizabeth Warren run and if I see more Democrats decide to vote for a male candidate as opposed to her, I would be happy to admit this is occurring.

Can't answer for the Right, as we know the racism on that side of the coin.

And again, if there were those still pretending as if gender is not coming into play, here is President Obama today stoking those fires and playing favorites, as Biden did this week, as well:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...sions-a-day-when-female-presidents-are-common
 
Obama wants to feel important. Liberals are done with Obama for the most part.
 
evanrick said:
Obama wants to feel important. Liberals are done with Obama for the most part.
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You aren't a spokesman for liberals.....no one that uses the term "welfare queens" is fit to speak for liberals...

I am guessing he isn't popular with you or the Bern Bros.:##: After all..he is "establishment"...

I know a lot of liberals....and he is very popular with ALL of them...every single one of them like him. He even won me over....
 
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