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Bernie Sanders reportedly left off DC primary ballot [SPLIT]

Re: In Support of Bernie Sanders

It's very convenient: Neither candidate was properly registered in time--the DNC submitted both applications at the same time, somewhat after the deadline. And yet Hillary was added anyway.

I repeat, why exactly is there any surprise that the DNC is not exactly enamored of someone who's only using the Democratic Party to be taken seriously.
 
Re: In Support of Bernie Sanders

Don't you need to be OFFERED Wall Street money to accept it? :rotflmao:

Don't know what that has to do with anything?

Well they didn't have a lot of Democratic ballots with Bernie on them since, well, he wasn't a Democrat until recently.

I repeat, why exactly is there any surprise that the DNC is not exactly enamored of someone who's only using the Democratic Party to be taken seriously.

I mean, is it a surprise that someone who decided to campaign switched to a party because it would be better to do so to campaign? Many politicians have done things and still do things only to better their campaign. Party switching isn't the worst thing someone can do, but apparently is the criticism people feel the need to run with against him.

Either way I don't see what that has do with the article I posted.
 
Re: In Support of Bernie Sanders

I mean, is it a surprise that someone who decided to campaign switched to a party because it would be better to do so to campaign? Many politicians have done things and still do things only to better their campaign. Party switching isn't the worst thing someone can do, but apparently is the criticism people feel the need to run with against him.

It's surprising when that candidate and his supporters are running on a ticket of "anti-establishment" manna from heaven, when the very first decision said candidate made was a cynical attempt to co-opt that very establishment without which he had no chance in hell.

You really don't see a bunch of politicians jumping party lines to run Presidential campaigns actually, and party switching for the express purpose of hijacking that party is pretty venal.

Why should Dem Super Delegates and Congress-people people give him a break? He's never been a Democrat.

Plus whine all you want about how this is SOOOOO unfair to Bernie, no one has yet called him a whore or a fucking bitch - if Bernie and his supporters can't stand to hear criticism...
 
Re: In Support of Bernie Sanders


imagine that Bernie not on the ballot ??? coincidence ?

or just consistency in the DNC playbook

that'd be the "establishment" DNC

which has very little to do with the progressive movement

and back to topic - this has everything to do with what Bernie is trying to do which is to reduce or eliminate power from the 1% that want to control at best the agenda and at worst our lives

Hillary is quite content with the status quo as it suits her agenda and electability
 
Re: In Support of Bernie Sanders

It's surprising when that candidate and his supporters are running on a ticket of "anti-establishment" manna from heaven, when the very first decision said candidate made was a cynical attempt to co-opt that very establishment without which he had no chance in hell.

You really don't see a bunch of politicians jumping party lines to run Presidential campaigns actually, and party switching for the express purpose of hijacking that party is pretty venal.

Why should Dem Super Delegates and Congress-people people give him a break? He's never been a Democrat.

Plus whine all you want about how this is SOOOOO unfair to Bernie, no one has yet called him a whore or a fucking bitch - if Bernie and his supporters can't stand to hear criticism...

Bernie ran as a Democrat in the Vermont Democrat Primary. When he won....he flipped off the Democrats and ran as an Independent against the Republican opponent....

His flip flop bullshit is nothing new...and I don't trust him at all not to run as an Independent whether he wins the nomination or not.

Fool me once..shame on you..fool me twice..shame on me.
 
Re: In Support of Bernie Sanders

Bernie ran as a Democrat in the Vermont Democrat Primary. When he won....he flipped off the Democrats and ran as an Independent...

His flip flop bullshit is nothing new...and I don't trust him at all not to run as an Independent whether he wins the nomination or not.

Fool me once..shame on you..fool me twice..shame on me.

Interesting, I didn't know that.
 
Re: In Support of Bernie Sanders

It's surprising when that candidate and his supporters are running on a ticket of "anti-establishment" manna from heaven, when the very first decision said candidate made was a cynical attempt to co-opt that very establishment without which he had no chance in hell.

You really don't see a bunch of politicians jumping party lines to run Presidential campaigns actually, and party switching for the express purpose of hijacking that party is pretty venal.

Why should Dem Super Delegates and Congress-people people give him a break? He's never been a Democrat.

Plus whine all you want about how this is SOOOOO unfair to Bernie, no one has yet called him a whore or a fucking bitch - if Bernie and his supporters can't stand to hear criticism...

Step it back a bit, because I am not whining. I am really not interest in this tit for tat between the candidates we support because I did it before with people and it is just endless where we can both name off the faults we have with the other candidates.

Calling him a part of the establishment is being disingenuous in the way he is talking about it himself, what he is referring to is not the establishment he is a part of. The bought politicians and corruption he is talking about is the establishment.

My post has nothing to do with "giving him a break." It has to do with with him being left off the ballot even though the fee was paid and the paperwork was sent but him getting it the day after the deadline.

Now please stop trying to pick another argument for the sake of one.
 
Re: In Support of Bernie Sanders

Bernie ran as a Democrat in the Vermont Democrat Primary. When he won....he flipped off the Democrats and ran as an Independent against the Republican opponent....

His flip flop bullshit is nothing new...and I don't trust him at all not to run as an Independent whether he wins the nomination or not.

Fool me once..shame on you..fool me twice..shame on me.

yeah labels and such ;)

isn't what someone believes in, espouses, wants to do for the country more important than their party or label

if Bernie was a member of the Republican party and believed what he believes I'd still love him

it's such utter BS to play this dem/indy thing

what he wants to do for people is what matters

wake up
 
Re: In Support of Bernie Sanders

Step it back a bit, because I am not whining. I am really not interest in this tit for tat between the candidates we support because I did it before with people and it is just endless where we can both name off the faults we have with the other candidates.

Calling him a part of the establishment is being disingenuous in the way he is talking about it himself, what he is referring to is not the establishment he is a part of. The bought politicians and corruption he is talking about is the establishment.

My post has nothing to do with "giving him a break." It has to do with with him being left off the ballot even though the fee was paid and the paperwork was sent but him getting it the day after the deadline.

Now please stop trying to pick another argument for the sake of one.

LOL Bernie is part of the hippie establishment maybe ;)

The establishment wants to keep things AS IS

that'd be Hillary's game - the DNC's game - the super delegate game - the Wall St. game - the pharma co. game

dems are just like repubs there - money corrupts

being a Hillary supporter and claiming Bernie is establishment is like Donald Trump saying John Kasich a bully
 
Re: In Support of Bernie Sanders

It's surprising when that candidate and his supporters are running on a ticket of "anti-establishment" manna from heaven, when the very first decision said candidate made was a cynical attempt to co-opt that very establishment without which he had no chance in hell.
His decision to run as a Democrat has very possibly SAVED the Democratic Party from ruin. Imagine a Republican, Sanders, and Clinton all on the ballot. Sanders would have guaranteed a shoo-in for the Republican candidate, even if it was a Trump-Palin ticket.

As it was, Ralph Nader arguably got us "Dubya." Losing Florida was an amalgam of issues, ALL of which had to come true before Bush could win. Disenfranchisement of voters, keeping the polling place for Florida A&M students locked all day (or more of the day), butterfly ballots and hanging chads, the candidacy of Ralph Nader, ex-felons not being allowed to vote, *ALL* were necessary for Bush to win that state by one vote...5 to 4. Without Ralph Nader (or without ANY OTHER ONE of these things...with Nader running), Bush would have lost Florida.

(It feels a little strange to be writing this precisely as I'm sitting in Florida at the moment...)

Sanders would have guaranteed a Republican outcome, because he (in a three-way race) would split the Democratic vote far more robustly than Nader in his wildest dreams.

Not to mention that Bernie is "only" running mostly on ideals which mostly DID fit the Democratic Party recently enough to be within some of our lifetimes.
 
Re: In Support of Bernie Sanders

I repeat, why exactly is there any surprise that the DNC is not exactly enamored of someone who's only using the Democratic Party to be taken seriously.

Yeah you are so right---very few parties nominate someone who either switched parties or uses a party to advance themselves---nothing like it in recent times---he also refuses to raise money for the DNC----he is an independent spirit and maybe should run as an independent.
 
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