Bi Guys: Preference?

[azirish]

I'm bisexual, but I'm about 60-70% men and 30% or so females. I'm more into the sex aspect with guys, but I would be open for more.

 

[UnderBiCover]

90% women/10% men

when my wife's pregnant, the men % rises

before I was married it was more like 95% women

 

[Telstra]

90% women/10% men

when my wife's pregnant, the men % rises

before I was married it was more like 95% women

interesting. Sounds like you can't get enough sex !!!.

 

[roxbury123]

i'm more attracted to guys, but i can see myself dating a female or a male

 

[youngnihilist]

So you 90% men guys are bi?

 

[rob2477]

im sexually and emotionally attracted to women, and could only see myself spending the rest of my life with women, but im also sexualy attracted to men, and i think my sexual attraction to men is stronger than my sexual attraction to women. (godawful runon sentence). and me, i act like im gay, and everyone thinks i am.(im still in the closet.)

 

[AngelFromAbove]

The vast majority on the web that claim that? Nope. Closet cases, the lot of them.

How do you know this? Or is this just a personal guess?

The real telling point for a truly bisexual person is that they actually have come out, their wives/girlfriends/families/etc know about it.

So what is the measure of a truly bisexual person? As far as their same-sex attractions, they would have the same motivations that homosexuals would have as far as concealing the truth from the general public.

 

[falconfan]

Just one of 1/2 dozen studies that confirm my statements.

Straight, Gay or Lying?

Not in the least. The neurology of sexual orientation is still foggy at best. NOTHING confirms your finding how bout you pull your head out of your ass, stop relying on reinterpreted, redigested, tertiary scientific reports written by some jackass who has a degree in journalism rather than neurology and break out the peer approved medical journals instead and you'll see we still don't know what the fuck is going on in terms of neurology and sexual preference. There are a number of theories and tons of inconclusive and contradictory evidence.

 

[AngelFromAbove]

Not in the least. The neurology of sexual orientation is still foggy at best. NOTHING confirms your finding how bout you pull your head out of your ass, stop relying on reinterpreted, redigested, tertiary scientific reports written by some jackass who has a degree in journalism rather than neurology and break out the peer approved medical journals instead and you'll see we still don't know what the fuck is going on in terms of neurology and sexual preference. There are a number of theories and tons of inconclusive and contradictory evidence.

Wow, thanks for saving me time in writing, Falconfan. Moltenrock, All I will add to your statement is that it is agreed in the social sciences that bisexuality is actually the norm, not heterosexuality or homosexuality. Your experiences do not extend across the human race.

 

[falconfan]

Nope. Link?

In study after study those even identifying as bisexual are a fraction of those who identify as gay. Given the sheer number and ratio % of "bi" guys to gays on JUB which is more likely? A.) That JUB appeals overwhelming to "bi's" than gays. B.) The study I posted previously is accurate, and we have a bunch of closet cases?

Wow, how simplisitic can your mind be?

1) As i stated, and you ignored, the link you provided was not a scientific study it was from the New York Times, written by a JOURNALIST not a scientist. If you'd like to follow scientific theory, and that's all it is at this stage, theory, there are periodicals upon periodicals out there with tons of, often contradictary, information which has been obtained using methods reviewed and approved by other scientists.

THIS article that you're referencing is the end result of someone in the "health" section thumbing through these legitimate publishings finding a title/topic that seems like it's catchy/profitable and sending someone with a rudimentary understanding of neurology to redigest, dumb down, and inject excitement into it. Then effectively representing just one of a sea of scientific papers as fact or truth.

2) The study is fundamentally flawed in that it relies on an underlying assumption that there's suppose to BE three categories of sexuality as apposed to a logical bell curve. Most poignant however is that they/you are assuming that it is individuals who are bisexual who are "lying." Has it ever crossed that daft mind of yours that maybe, because people like you put such an intense pressure on individuals to declare him/herself as either "straight" or "gay," men who are marginally attracted to women as well as largely to men to simply call themselves gay so as to be accepted and THAT'S why certain bisexuals tested similiar to "gay" arrousal patterns? And that likewise because of societal and social pressures men who are largely attracted to women but partially attracted ot men of their own gender refuse to identify themselves as bi and choose rather to call themselves straight and THAT'S why otehr bisexuals tested similiar to "heterosexual" arrousal patterns? Has that very simple and obvious possiblity never crossed your mind in all the times you were attempting to tell people you know better than them what goes on in their hearts and minds?

3) I find it sad that there are gay men out there who can be so incredibly hypocrtical as to try and tell other people their sexual desires are somehow dishonest or unnatural. That is a sick and perverse level of asympathetic behaviour.

 

[AngelFromAbove]

Nope. Link?

In study after study those even identifying as bisexual are a fraction of those who identify as gay. Given the sheer number and ratio % of "bi" guys to gays on JUB which is more likely? A.) That JUB appeals overwhelming to "bi's" than gays. B.) The study I posted previously is accurate, and we have a bunch of closet cases?

Go take some Psychology, Sociology, Anthropology, and History courses. I've done my homework; I'm not simply spouting off personal opinions. Go to a bookstore and pick up a book concerning the aforementioned areas on this topic.

Those studies are laughable and they are hardly objective. In addition, the studies have too small a sample of men to be considered accurate. Finally, as it was stated before, the studies have a bias based on how they are done as well as by whom they are done.

Last, you cannot possibly tell me that you are using one website to backup your claim concerning bisexuality. Again, let me reiterate, neither the statements you have made nor the studies you have proposed are accurate. I've seen those studies when I was in college and they were easily debunked then; I highly doubt much has changed that would make the studies credible now.

Living by these simplistic dichotomies is going to leave you in a world of hurt.

 

[dontaskme69]

This is what all bi guys say.

I really don't understand it.

I'll admit I'm more sexually turned on by men but I could see myself in a relationship with either men or women depending on the person. To be honest all my relationships with both men and women were bad but I don't understand why most bi guys say they could never see themselves in a relationship with men. Is it social pressure or fear or turning gay.

I also don't understand this thing a lot of bi guys say of how they're not attracted to the men's face or body, just strictly the cock. So that means they wouldn't care if a man was 30-40 years older than them with sagging man breasts and a pot belly than hangs over their body. As long as he has a nice cock you'd be fine with him?

i think part of the thing for a man who is bi (myself included) is that a LOT of guys that are bi are masculine types. yes, they are masculine types that like men, but when it comes to their more emotional side, its much easier to be emotional with a woman because men, in general, are not such emotional creatures outwardly. women, however, are more open with their emotions, and more readily willing to tell you the good things about yourself and to make you feel sexy and to make you feel like a man.

I would say I'm probably 70% attracted to men and 30% to women, but I realize that when I fantasize about cuddling with someone, and holding someone, its a woman, because they are willing to be submissive to a man and lend themselves to being held....they are so much more understanding, and sentimental. Guys that I've attempted to be more than just a fuck-around buddy with quickly make me realize that I am nothing more than a sexual tool for them. A lot of times if I even suggest being "friends" with a guy, they are not interested in even that...they just want to drop a load.

however, girls will lie next to me in bed, and pillow talk with me while i'm half asleep, and make me feel as if I'm more than a swinging dick to them, EVEN if that's all I am. The bottom line, from MY experience: Its easy for a bi man to get emotionally attached to someone, but its more likely that those feelings will be reciprocated from a woman, as opposed to man.

 

[falconfan]

So that's why you couldn't provide any links or proof to back your empty assertions then eh?

Probably for the same reason you won't reply to my responses.

 

[conrad]

Things have changed since my first long term relationship with a male. I was just fifteen and neither I nor my partner ever stopped thinking of ourselves as ordinary guys who would do some day what ordinary guys did: we would find and fall in love with a nice girl, get married, and live happily ever after. My reaching that point was after two long term relationships with men and two equally long term relationships with women. But, when I was in a relationship I was faithful and devoted to my partners; I hated to see the end of each relationship, but educatioal and career moves made that inevitable. Two of my former male partners were divorced soon after marrying; they simply found that they were not compatible in heterosexual conventional marriage. The love (and sex) which two men enjoy is as valid in my mind as the love and sex which a man and a woman have together. And, were I ever to lose my dear wife, I am sure that I would be open to the possibility of a relationship with either a man or a woman. Fortunately, today that could be freely entered into. I love the person I am in relationship with. Yet, I have to say of all my partners that I also loved them once and I love them still.

 

[falconfan]

As I said there are some bisexuals in the world, but in almost every study done bisexuals are a fraction on the orders of 1/4, 1/5, 1/6th of those that identify as gay, as opposed to many on a site like JUB where the % is closer to parity.

And I've pointed out very clearly that could just as easily be taken to mean that there are closeted bi "gays" as it means there are closeted gay "bisexuals" as well as that you're not citing legitimate sources but you choose to ignore rather than address those issues and just spout off the same inaccurate insensitive generalizations.

 

[AngelFromAbove]

So that's why you couldn't provide any links or proof to back your empty assertions then eh?

I think I gave enough proof when I said go read a book.

 

[AngelFromAbove]

^^^Okay, so let's observe this link:

1)"But a new study casts doubt on whether true bisexuality exists, at least in men."

It says that the study casts doubt; it does not say that this is a fact.

2) "In the new study, a team of psychologists directly measured genital arousal patterns in response to images of men and women. The psychologists found that men who identified themselves as bisexual were in fact exclusively aroused by either one sex or the other, usually by other men."

The study only observes men, not women. From the start, there is a bias. In addition, there is not enough information on what kinds of images, how many images, besides being either images of men and women. The study assumes that all men are aroused by the same thing between men and women.

3) Your link also mentions this:

"The last thing you want," said Dr. Randall Sell, an assistant professor of clinical socio-medical sciences at Columbia University, "is for some therapists to see this study and start telling bisexual people that they're wrong, that they're really on their way to homosexuality."

He added, "We don't know nearly enough about sexual orientation and identity" to jump to these conclusions.

It seems that you missed that part.

4) In the experiment, psychologists at Northwestern University and the Center for Addiction and Mental Health in Toronto used advertisements in gay and alternative newspapers to recruit 101 young adult men. Thirty-three of the men identified themselves as bisexual, 30 as straight and 38 as homosexual.

101 men is not enough of a sample size to make a study credible to apply to the United States, let alone the world. Not to mention, all of them did not self-identify as bisexual. Approximately, 1/3 of the participants in the study identified as bisexual which further makes it lack credibilitiy.

5) "Most of them seem to lean one way or the other, but that doesn't preclude them from having a relationship with the nonpreferred sex," she said. "You may be mostly interested in women but, hey, the guy who delivers the pizza is really hot, and what are you going to do?"

"There's a whole lot of movement and flexibility," Dr. Diamond added. "The fact is, we have very little research in this area, and a lot to learn."

Once again, this comes from your own study. Bisexuals do not simply have to contain a 50/50 equal attraction to both. Also, sexuality is fluid. With everything being constant, these researchers could come back and easily these men could respond to women and not men.

As far as my links:

http://bad.eserver.org/issues/1994/16/newitz-sandell.html

http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Bisexuality_-_Bisexuality_in_history/id/1286533

In addition to Alfred Kinsey, there is a researcher by the name of Fritz Klein who expanded upon the idea of Kinsey's idea that sexuality is a continnum, not a binary standard. Most people fall somewhere in the middle, with homosexuality and heterosexuality being extremes.

Here's one more thing. I've stated before, one can easily go take numerous courses as well as read books concerning the matter. So, unfortunately, I'm not just spouting off my personal opinions on the subject.

Note: I actually had one more in-depth link, Bisexuality: From Common to Myth, but I cannot find it right now.

 

[Wtrain]

i think part of the thing for a man who is bi (myself included) is that a LOT of guys that are bi are masculine types. yes, they are masculine types that like men, but when it comes to their more emotional side, its much easier to be emotional with a woman because men, in general, are not such emotional creatures outwardly. women, however, are more open with their emotions, and more readily willing to tell you the good things about yourself and to make you feel sexy and to make you feel like a man.

I would say I'm probably 70% attracted to men and 30% to women, but I realize that when I fantasize about cuddling with someone, and holding someone, its a woman, because they are willing to be submissive to a man and lend themselves to being held....they are so much more understanding, and sentimental. Guys that I've attempted to be more than just a fuck-around buddy with quickly make me realize that I am nothing more than a sexual tool for them. A lot of times if I even suggest being "friends" with a guy, they are not interested in even that...they just want to drop a load.

however, girls will lie next to me in bed, and pillow talk with me while i'm half asleep, and make me feel as if I'm more than a swinging dick to them, EVEN if that's all I am. The bottom line, from MY experience: Its easy for a bi man to get emotionally attached to someone, but its more likely that those feelings will be reciprocated from a woman, as opposed to man.

Wow.... generalizing and stereotyping much?

 

[youngnihilist]

^tell me about it. guys can and do all the things the poster just described in women. how about actually trying to date a guy?

 

[TallBiMale]

I'm 90% into men and the other 90% is women.