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[RRUGER]

There is one silver lining to Dan's eviction this week and it's that Frank will likely join him in the jury house over the next two weeks. Frank's irrational hatred of Dan caused him to give up two weeks of HOH comps (for a veto he still didn't win) which means Frank has to win POV the next two weeks or go home. And Britney/Shane/Danielle/Ian already decided to backdoor him next week.

It would be so awesomely ironic if Frank's narrow focus on Dan cost him his own game.

yup

lets hope alison grodner doesnt fix his next to 2 HOHS or fix A JENN WIN

Priceless

 

[falconfan]

What are you talking about? Frank said several times he wanted to go after Dan to various newbies and that all got back to Dan. Plus Dan told Boogie and Frank about the plan to vote Frank out (the canceled eviction) and Frank was visibly annoyed with Dan for being in on that plan and not telling them before hand and again said it to other people and it got back to Dan. So he knew Frank was gunning for him.

And it's a no-brainer if your goal is to work with Boogie, why not forcibly tie him to you by cutting off his #1 ally? There are seriously multiple good reasons for Dan to have evicted Frank and indeed Dan himself thought of that which is why he argued with Danielle and cowed her into putting up Frank instead of Janelle. The only reason Dan changed his mind is when he saw Janelle and Boogie were unable to work together which I'll never understand because them hating each other but liking Dan is exactly the kind of position you want to be in.

The only reason at all to evict Janelle was her supposed comp prowess but that wouldn't have hurt Dan since she had no intention of going after him before Boogie or Shane and lord knows everyone else would still be trying to take her out. This was just a terrible decision and it's not a coincidence that it came back to haunt Dan like I predicted.

What I'm talking about is quite simple. Frank was in THREE win or go home situations. Last weeks veto. The fast forward Veto. and this week's HOH. You couldn't have anticipated three weeks ago (when Frank had one two competitions, in which most the contestants weren't even trying AND had failed to win a veto twice when he needed it) that he'd go on a run like that. He did though so things didn't work in Dan's favor. It wasn't a bad decision. It wasn't illogical. Frank just won more than people anticipated. Also I really don't think that early in the game, BEFORE Dan knew that Frank was irrationally blaming Frank's potential vote on him and him alone, that should Shane and Ian nominate and try to evict Frank that Frank would still be focusing on Dan. It was a calculated risk that clearly didn't pay off but as I said multiple times there's no reason to believe Janey wouldn't have clicked up with Brit the way that Frank has. In fact there was more reason to believe that because Janey and Brit were besties.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

Except for the fact that Britney was paranoid and jealous of Janelle and talked about that constantly with Dan and Danielle all the time? Please. You're not making any sense falconfan. You can't be worried about a hypothetical pairing when you have a VERY REAL and very tight pairing in Frank and Boogie, one of which is gunning for you and you've been told this. Predicting Frank's competition wins is irrelevant. There was ZERO reason from Dan's standpoint to leave Frank in the game and now he's paying for it.

Dan knew they all wanted Janelle out badly. So bad that Dan had to single handedly talk them all out of it. That kind of fear and antipathy toward her was not going to disappear. He should've stuck to the plan to evict Frank three weeks ago and it's very possible Janelle still would've been eliminated at some point in the following three weeks since everyone wanted her out and no one was really interested in working with her and that includes her own team.

That said if Dan does somehow survive this week, he deserves to win the whole game for that alone.

 

[falconfan]

Except for the fact that Britney was paranoid and jealous of Janelle and talked about that constantly with Dan and Danielle all the time? Please. You're not making any sense falconfan. You can't be worried about a hypothetical pairing when you have a VERY REAL and very tight pairing in Frank and Boogie, one of which is gunning for you and you've been told this. Predicting Frank's competition wins is irrelevant. There was ZERO reason from Dan's standpoint to leave Frank in the game and now he's paying for it.

Dan knew they all wanted Janelle out badly. So bad that Dan had to single handedly talk them all out of it. That kind of fear and antipathy toward her was not going to disappear. He should've stuck to the plan to evict Frank three weeks ago and it's very possible Janelle still would've been eliminated at some point in the following three weeks since everyone wanted her out and no one was really interested in working with her and that includes her own team.

That said if Dan does somehow survive this week, he deserves to win the whole game for that alone.

Dan was gunning for Frank. He just didn't expect him to be so hard to get rid of. He thought Janey would've been the won who could run comps and give him trouble down the line. Like I pointed out and you didn't acknowledge Dan tried to get Frank out for the past 2 HOHs and would've succeeded had he not won vet BOTH TIMES. And had he not won HOH this week he would've been out. Forcing someone into a win or go home situation with 5 people playing against them you'd assume he'd have lost at least one of those crucial comps and would be out the door by now. It just didn't work that way.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

I see what you're saying but for me it's not about that. It's about 1) Frank and Boogie were the tightest pair in the House 2) Dan wants to work with Boogie and 3) Frank was capable of winning HOH and targeting Dan. By comparison, Janelle had no tight allies in the house, sn had she won HOH, her first target would've been Boogie.

Bottom line. Had Frank gone home, Dan would certainly NOT be in the position he is now. The next few weeks would've been Boogie and Janelle trying to get rid of each other, during which Dan could fade into the background.

 

[joesman]

If Dan does go home it will because he was blind to the possibilities of Frank staying and then he let the competitions all disappear without trying. He would have been much better off if he hadn't told Boogie about Frank being almost out the door. Frank is an emotional player and has held that against Dan even when Boogs talked him out of nominating Dan. I am sorry that Frank will get that satisfaction just like I was sorry that Boogs got the satisfaction of getting Janelle out.

And the powers behind the screen are working for Frank to win. That is painfully obvious.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

If Dan does go home it will because he was blind to the possibilities of Frank staying

He would have been much better off if he hadn't told Boogie about Frank being almost out the door.

Exactly. I love Dan but he made quite a few mistakes this season and he set things up for Ian to be in a great position, not himself.

 

[Lostlover]

If Dan does go home it will because he was blind to the possibilities of Frank staying and then he let the competitions all disappear without trying. He would have been much better off if he hadn't told Boogie about Frank being almost out the door. Frank is an emotional player and has held that against Dan even when Boogs talked him out of nominating Dan. I am sorry that Frank will get that satisfaction just like I was sorry that Boogs got the satisfaction of getting Janelle out.

And the powers behind the screen are working for Frank to win. That is painfully obvious.

Painfuly, painfully obvious. However, Frank has done a shitload more than Dan aka Mr. "Lay Down All Day Sulking."

Dan wants to stay in? Pull a Frank. You know, win a competition when it counts. Do it just once Dan. Frank has done it many times.

Don't forget too that Dan had four weeks of immunity from eviction, while Frank's gift provided him immunity from eviction on one week. So, Dan's three weeks ahead of Frank in terms of gifts from the producers.

 

[Adrock-JD]

Oh, so Frank backed-off of Ian because Ian can't handle being yelled at?? What?

 

[RRUGER]

Frank is a bully period

he is going to bully his way to final 2 and bully the jury to get votes

that boogie shirt he is wearing pisses me off

boogies bitch

 

[roadtripboy]

^ couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[Lostlover]

Frank is a bully period

he is going to bully his way to final 2 and bully the jury to get votes

that boogie shirt he is wearing pisses me off

boogies bitch

A bully that plays the game. A bully that's EAGER to play the game. You have people in the game just to collect checks, not actually win it. The chick with the dark hair said that she was unemployed before the show. She basically won already just by having money coming in.

You have two people that signed on to do a dating show, not play Big Brother.

LMAO. Frank told Joe. "You have don't jack shit." And he could have said that to everyone in the house except Shane. EVERYONE except Shane.

 

[joesman]

The veto box and the balls falling outside showed a side of Dan that I had not seen before. He was way overly aggressive and pushy. I think Karma bit him in the ass on that one. Bad Dan! Bad Dan!!!! Sulky Dan, too.

 

[RRUGER]

The veto box and the balls falling outside showed a side of Dan that I had not seen before. He was way overly aggressive and pushy. I think Karma bit him in the ass on that one. Bad Dan! Bad Dan!!!! Sulky Dan, too.

he is only HUMAN

can you blame him he took the heat for the QP from fr4ank and boogie and look what happened?

QP is sending him out the door

he slipped too bad it sealed his fate.
He should have played it cool

 

[Lostlover]

Funny. The floaters had to wake up and play! And didn't even get near Frank in the HoH competition. Karma.

Dan's thrown so many competitions. Why would anyone want him to beat Frank who's played the entire time?

 

[Sgt Pepper]

OMG! Finally some drama! Dan held a House meeting pretending to accept his eviction and tells each person one by one how much he values them. Everyone is moved. People are crying and shit. Then he gets to Danielle (the last one) who is already crying and expecting the best speech...AND HE TOTALLY SANDBAGS HER! LMAO! Dan goes, "You know what you did to me in this game. Don't ever talk game to me again." And Danielle is shocked and starts to bawl her eyes out!

Now Dan is up in the HOH spilling all the Quack and Ian secrets to Frank (just like I hoped he would) and Frank is totally believing it! Frank is considering getting Jenn to use the veto on Dan! Dan wants him to backdoor Britney (ugh, wish it was Shane instead) and has promised Frank a F2 Renegade deal. Meanwhiel everyone else is downstairs freaking out. Ian looks like he shit his pants, Dani is crying like a loon and Britney is scared.

Wow Dan. Wow. Even if this doesn't work. You're the fucking BOSS.

This only has a 5% chance of working but it's better than 0%.

 

[diamondstar]

It's just hilarious everytime someone you don't like wins a lot, it's always "Grodner is rigging the game". Perhaps if everyone else didn't suck, Frank would have more competition. However I do agree Frank needs to stop being so concern with Mr. Sloth. Taking out Britney, Shane, or Ian would be more of a priority if I were Frank

 

[falconfan]

Only Danielle would be too dumb to realize that Dan was trying to create an apparent 'rift' between them so she won't be target by association in the even he stays.

He clearly knows that he can't get BOTH of them off the block. If Jenn uses it on him which is still a HUGE if than Dani will still be sitting there next to Shane or Brit. For any of the Quackers to consider keeping Dani over Brit they'd have to be completely convinced she's not still loyal to Dan. (Also that's why he wants Brit up and not Shane. If Dani and Shane are on the block Brit/Ian will definitely keep Shane. They want won't too lose the strongest competitor on their team. If it's Dani/Brit Dani might still have Shane's loyalties.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

Only Danielle would be too dumb to realize that Dan was trying to create an apparent 'rift' between them so she won't be target by association in the even he stays.

He clearly knows that he can't get BOTH of them off the block. If Jenn uses it on him which is still a HUGE if than Dani will still be sitting there next to Shane or Brit. For any of the Quackers to consider keeping Dani over Brit they'd have to be completely convinced she's not still loyal to Dan. (Also that's why he wants Brit up and not Shane. If Dani and Shane are on the block Brit/Ian will definitely keep Shane. They want won't too lose the strongest competitor on their team. If it's Dani/Brit Dani might still have Shane's loyalties.

Which is why I don't understand why Dan and Frank don't just propose an alliance with Joe and Jenn. Jenn pulls Dan down, Britney goes up (oh yes folks BRITNEY is the target now if they pull this off) and they would have the three votes they need to save Danielle (Dan, Jenn & Joe). Joe and Jenn are super pissed at Dan right now but if he and Frank sit them down and reveal the Quack Pack plus Ian, they might go for it. I mean fuck if Dan can sell that to FRANK he can definitely sell it to those two.

Also, it looks like Frank is definitely onboard because Ian/Britney/Joe/Jenn are in the HOH bashing Dan and Frank pretended he was just up there to apologize to Frank. He hasn't spilled anything to them.

 

[falconfan]

I just don't know why he didn't try to talk to feel Jenn out before all of this. She's the one who he needs right now. I mean if Frank had veto I'd understand this plan but as of this way... I just don't see how it works. Also do we think Dan is actually true to that F2 deal? I mean he wouldn't want to be at the end with Frank he'd lose hardcore.