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Big Brother 13

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I hate that Rachel and Jordan are safe again!

friggin Rachel!


it sucks.
 
The only thing I don't like is that now Adam is going to coast into the F4 because Jordan and Rachel are going to go after Kalia (or Porsche if Kalia gets POV), and Jordan's vote guarantees Rachel breaking a tie at worst.
 
I hate how they are making Jordan appear like she was 100% loyal to Shelly when the week previous they were voting her out until Adam said NO and that week Jeff/Jordan decided Rachel was in final 3, not Shelly.
 
Once again if Jordan wins this season she didn't deserve it. Allison Grodner sucks! I forgot about the stupid Pandora's box being used as a rigging device. If a player they didn't want to win HOH opening it is bad for them in a major way that effects the game or it does nothing really bad or good. If a player they want to win HOH gets it they either get a really good advantage, nothing really happens and the punishment is something that won't effect the outcome of the game.

They totally threw that Pandora's box in there because they knew Rachel had the best shot at winning the next POV and Jordan would be sent home so they made it so they both can be taken down. They also made the POV an endurance similar to the Banana endurance where Rachel beat all of them and they knew she would again just to save Jordan. They never have endurance POV's. They know Jordan can't win anything so Rachel has to win it for her.

Not sure if anyone said all this already since I only check this thread on Thursdays. Hate that Jordan gets further but I'm happy Rachel makes it to final 4. I said it a million times but Adam is the most useless player ever to play the game. Too much of a coward to make any moves, not entertaining, not hot, not good at competitions, nothing. Why did they cast him?
 
joesman said:
and Rachel following Jordan around like a little puppy was hysterical, and better yet was the crying jag over the ousting of jackass - so reminiscent of Lydia, Chima etc after Jessie was evicted. Oh the good old days.

and why was Rachel crying for heavens sake.
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I'm pretty sure she was crying because she thought she was going to be evicted and was relieved that she didn't. It's weird but girls always cry after stuff like that.
 
Those Jeff and Jordan fans are fucking crazy. If you see how they are on Jokers, they automatically love anyone on their side and automatically passionately hate anyone who makes a game move against them. They can't understand that other people need to make smart moves to try to win the game instead of throwing every competition so that Jeff and Jordan can make more money. They absolutely loved Shelly until she flipped and now she's their least favorite. They hated Rachel but now love her because she helps Jeff and Jordan. They like Adam because he kisses Jeff's butt. They hated Kalia all season because she put Jeff up one time. It was the same with season 11. They kept flipping on whether they liked Russell or not depending on if he was with Jeff and Jordan or not. Fucking idiots.
 
Not ALL Joker fans are like that. Many on there are Dani fans and actually quite logical!

No one in that game deserves to win at this point because two "twists" aka rigs have changed the outcome of the game. Jordan and Rachel especially should not win. The twist bringing someone back into the game saved Rachel (otherwise Adam would have gone up and Rachel evicted). It saved Jeff for one week because he would have gone home next (or Adam/Jordan).

The twist last week saved Jordan. The POV was OBVIOUSLY put together last minute for Rachel (how tacky did that look?) AND this HOH was put together for Rachel. (They NEVER do HOHs like this. Not do they do physical, question, skill, physical. This stage of the game is always questions/endurance... not physical physical physical.)

Frankly, I am pretty sure the final 3 will be Jordan/Adam/Porshe at this point. I only hope it is Porshe/Adam final 2, because Porshe would be the one who deserves to win.
 
Didn't Rachel and Jordan say they would vote for Adam to win over Kalia and Porsche right after the Jeff eviction. Well, yes they did in a convo on BB AD that night.
 
If they said that, it would be a purely personal vote. Strategically, he has done NOTHING.
 
^^^^ In my opinion Adam is the lamest contestant ever on this show. He has no presence, personality, skills and no entertainment value. He is the perfect person to be sitting next to at the end, though.
 
joesman said:
^^^^ In my opinion Adam is the lamest contestant ever on this show. He has no presence, personality, skills and no entertainment value. He is the perfect person to be sitting next to at the end, though.
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So bitter ass vets can give this undesirable the money? It would be smart to take someone like Adam to the end if this was season twelve, but if all the vets are at the jury excluding Dani would rather that kiss ass get the money instead of someone who deserves it. I would be a blessing in the sky if the jury had no say who wins this season.
 
I think Adam would beat Porsche and Kalia since he would get the votes of the non-Dani veterans before Dani's henchwomen would.

I think in terms of winning:
-Jordan beats everyone
-Adam beats the newbie women
-Porsche beats Kalia
-Kalia loses to everyone

The only question mark is Rachel. She'll for sure have Brendan's vote, and she'll probably have Jeff and Jordan's votes if she's not in the end with Jordan. She will NOT have any of Dani, Kalia or Shelly's votes. Porsche might vote her over Adam and maybe Jordan but not Kalia. Adam might vote for her if Jeff tells him to do it.
 
joesman said:
^^^^ In my opinion Adam is the lamest contestant ever on this show. He has no presence, personality, skills and no entertainment value. He is the perfect person to be sitting next to at the end, though.
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Cosign completely.

I hope the FCC investigates BB.
 
slipintothefog said:
I think Adam would beat Porsche and Kalia since he would get the votes of the non-Dani veterans before Dani's henchwomen would.

I think in terms of winning:
-Jordan beats everyone
-Adam beats the newbie women
-Porsche beats Kalia
-Kalia loses to everyone

The only question mark is Rachel. She'll for sure have Brendan's vote, and she'll probably have Jeff and Jordan's votes if she's not in the end with Jordan. She will NOT have any of Dani, Kalia or Shelly's votes. Porsche might vote her over Adam and maybe Jordan but not Kalia. Adam might vote for her if Jeff tells him to do it.
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I actually think Daniele would vote for Rachel over Adam. Both Daniele and Brendon would vote for anyone over Adam because it's Adam's cowardness that made it impossible for them to stay. They know how bad of a player he is and are really annoyed with it. I don't think Rachel would vote for Adam over anyone either. She's really competitive and has no respect for his game and she'll have Brendon telling her not to. Same with Shelly, she kept saying she'd be so pissed if she lost the game and Adam won. I really do think anyone can beat Adam in the final 2.

Sadly, Jordan probably can beat anyone and has a good chance at winning again. People will call her "The best big brother player ever to win the game because she won twice" even though it was handed to her both times if she wins.
 
Rachel's goodbye message with her calling Dani a bitch straight up and saying "I don't care about your stupid jury vote!" was totally shades of Ivette in BB6 to me. Ivette pissed off BB6 Rachel in her goodbye messages, and she not only voted for Maggie to win, but also made Howie do it too, ensuring Ivette's loss. I certainly wouldn't blame Daniele nor be surprised if she voted against Rachel regardless of her opponent. It was almost like Rachel dared Dani to vote against her.

You're right about Rachel not respecting Adam's game, though, on second thought.
 
I guess I always assumed it was scripted vs. just natural. It would be interesting to know for sure.

I'm sure with things where they are collecting money per vote/text, they have to keep it real.

Otherwise, I thought it was just written for maximum drama. Does anyone think Survivor is "natural"?
 
I'm hoping Rachel wins it this year, but the chances of that are pretty slim I think.

I'd like to see Adam go next, but the likelihood of that happening is probably pretty low as well.

I do want to make one comment though. Everyone is saying how they hate Adam's gameplay, but to be honest, I'm not sure he has had many great options.

He's almost never been a strong player in competitions, except for that ball rolling one and he doesn't seem to have an eye for strategy either. If he made bold moves, who's to say he wouldn't have been evicted a while ago.

The way he's playing, he can be a vote for whoever needs him, but not really be seen as a threat.

Is he playing to win? No. However, when you're one of the weakest players in the season and you're thrown into a season where there were alliances right off the bat, sometimes laying low is the only option.
 
In the OTEV competiton, Adam emerged as the victor of the ever important Power of Veto.
 
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