Big Brother 15

[pineapple]

Upsetting, I think McCrae will end up winning this season. I always thought he was the biggest threat of winning this game from the start of the season and it seems like he will for sure win HOH or POV next week and then win the final HOH at the end.

Judd is angry because his punishment from the HOH competition on Thursday night was to do random exercises whenever BB tells him to on the speakers so they kept telling him "Do 50 sit ups" "Do 30 push ups" and other stuff like that all day yesterday and he was too soar to compete in the POV. Now he is very likely to go up and go home.

I really don't know who I want to win this season. This is the first season I've watched where there was never really anyone I really wanted to win badly. I was rooting for Elissa but she's no Rachel and it didn't really bother me too much when she was evicted.

 

[falconfan]

I don't have much to say about the goings on other than the fact that McCrae's HOH noms are still the strangest part to me. Elissa is the only one who would have actively, genuinely worked with him.

 

[Adrock-JD]

Amanda was riding McCrae every night. Why wouldn't a pizza delivery dude not be able to see past that?
I figure he nominated GM and Elissa because Amanda hated them. McCrae is clueless. He's started to play really hard in the comps now that his girlfriend is gone but if he survives to the final 3 endurance I think he'll vomit most of the way through it.
Disgusting.

 

[Adrock-JD]

The best part about Amanda going home is how LOL it is to the lunatic fringe of BB viewers who never stop with the conspiracy theories. What happened to Amanda being removed from the show on Thursday? I guess that "inside info" went the same way as that the hand that pushed Helen off her platform.

The funny thing is, Amanda totally has the skill and intelligence to get out of this -- she could for example out Andy, form an alliance with GM and a couple others and whip up some anti-Andy the rat fervor so GM backdoors him (Dan would have done something like that). But she won't because she's too blinded by self-pity and fury to see the one shot she may have left. That and she's spent so much of the game pissing everyone off, they'll just be glad to be rid of her.

My "rigged" screaming friend is now saying that Alison Grodner saw the twitter leak and got rid of Amanda so people wouldn't think it was rigged.

The "rigged" people are as relentless as the JFK conspiracy nuts or the "feet fetish" people in chat on Cam4. "Please show feet. Show feet plz. Will you show your feet. SHOW FEET. Show feet now, bb."

 

[slipintothefog]

Yeah, people are going to believe whatever they want. If Amanda makes it to the end, it's because it's rigged for her. If she gets voted out before the end, it's because they don't want us to think it was really rigged for her. Even though that kind of nullifies the point of the game being rigged for her since, you know, she didn't win it. Or maybe, god forbid, she just got evicted without some grand conspiracy behind it?

 

[Adrock-JD]

^

I think they're saying it was just rerigged, is that a word? in another direction. Which, apparently can go an infinite number of ways. Which also would suggest that it was rigged and then derigged but it was never unrigged.

 

[slipintothefog]

Rigged, unrigged, rerigged or derigged, the show is way less interesting for losing Amanda and Elissa on the same night. I've heard of whisperings that Spencer and GM made a F2 alliance but I can't even get my hopes up that LOL GM could win the game. She will be out this Thursday, surely.

 

[pineapple]

I don't see how all of you guys could watch this show season after season and deny that they rig it at all. It happens every season and it's not a sure thing that the person they're trying to rig it for will win but they do things that give them a HUGE advantage over everyone else to try to make sure they do win. I think the rigging started season 7 when they really wanted Janelle to win and then it got really bad season 8 and beyond. America's player, Coup de Tat, Canceled Evictions, Coaches getting a free 4 week ride and then if only ONE of them pushes it they're all in the game, Pandora's Box, Really Shady DR incidents...

I wasn't fully sure of the Amanda one because she didn't seem like she needed any help at all to make it as far as she did but when I heard that they might be rigging it for a producers friend it didn't shock me because of how many times they've done it in past seasons. Do I think they rigged it for Amanda? No. If they wanted to they couldn't because of all the rumors but Amanda earned her 7th place spot. She might've even made it further if they didn't bring back Judd, then Andy wouldn't flip because the numbers would still be on Amanda's side.

 

[slipintothefog]

I think all of the people who didn't buy into the "The show is rigged for Amanda" rumor did it because the only source was some flake on Facebook, not because we were covering our eyes and refusing to acknowledge the show is manipulated. We all know Grodner pulls twists and Pandora's Boxes and America's Votes and suggestive Diary Room questions out of her ass to keep her/America's favorites in the game.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

I didn't think I'd have a reason to post here again until finale, but McCrae winning POV and the possibility of him making an endgame comp run is giving me new life (if only because it would please Amanda).

I don't have much to say about the goings on other than the fact that McCrae's HOH noms are still the strangest part to me. Elissa is the only one who would have actively, genuinely worked with him.

I'm not sure if you saw this on the feeds or in Elissa's eviction interview (tonight's episode should make it clear) but Andy set it up before the live show so that McCrae would think Elissa switched and voted Amanda out (which is why he nominated Elissa and GM) and perhaps even more WTF, Andy also managed to convince Elissa that McCrae switched and voted out Amanda! (ostensibly to form a guy's alliance)

Since we know they both bought it -- McCrae because of his nominations and Elissa because she told Julie she thought maybe McCrae voted out Amanda (and OMG if Andy can convince anyone that fucking McCrae voted out Amanda, then I must give him credit for playing circles around the rest of the house, even if I can't stand him) -- that means that either Elissa or McCrae was going during the double eviction no matter what.

You guys I hate to say it, but Andy is actually playing a pretty great game to get to the end. I can't say great overall yet because I still don't know if he can get the jury votes to win the way he's playing and I doubt he can sell his gameplay in a charismatic jury speech because 1) his DRs have been lame and 2) Four score and WTF was that eviction speech about?

But it's interesting that Amanda and Helen were originally battling for control of the house and when they got picked off, Andy emerged as the best manipulator. I really didn't see it coming but his ability to swerve into new alliances and literally have them all believing ANYTHING he says (even crazy shit like McCrae voting out Amanda, really I can't get over this one) is hardcore. I still despise him though and I still hope he doesn't win. In that way, he's very much like BB6 Maggie for me.

I've heard of whisperings that Spencer and GM made a F2 alliance but I can't even get my hopes up that LOL GM could win the game. She will be out this Thursday, surely.

Granted I haven't watched any of the feeds today but up until yesterday, Andy/Spencer want Judd gone this week. That can flip several times between now and Thursday, but there IS hope for GM. And lord knows I would be so glad if Judd got the boot not just because he's boring and not just because of my (well documented on here) dislike for returning players (and this one in particular since it screwed Amanda and Elissa as pineapple correctly pointed out) but also because I can't stand the bug-eyed way he votes to evict. Add that to Andy's tourrets and Judd/Andy may be the most uncomfortable people to watch in the DR.

 

[bostonboy20]

So....Andy's sleeveless flannel shirt last night.............probably made me more uncomfortable than anything this season

 

[joesman]

Amanda was so unlikeable and so unable to see herself as a bully, a homophobe, a racist, and utter asshole. She jumped into bed with one of the most incredibly boring people ever on BB. She chastised Aaryn for her racism (sure that came from DR) and then went on a racist tear herself, joined Aa, Gm in a fun making rant against Candy. The other night there was a discussion about whether Howard actually said those things to her and nobody really knew. If he didn't then that was a horrendously low thing to say and do on her part. If he did, then he deserved to drag his over sized dick out.

What we have left is boring Andy, boring McCrae, boring Spencer and reasonably boring Judd. Gm is fun and crazy and an asshole as well. I can't put my finger on why I despise Andy so much but I do.

I don't want McC to win because that would be a win for Amanda and I don't want that self centered toxic bitch to win anything. She better get McC to Florida and out of his family's basement, else she will be down there with him, and possibly will be even in the lovely state of crazy, Florida. I don't want Spence to win. My only likeable people (reasonably so) is GM and Judd. If he was given the chance to come back into the game then he has as much right to win as anyone. He was advised by Julie, as were the other evictees, that they were still in the game. His coming back didn't give him any particular advantage other than the other players passion to get rid of Amanda and Elissa. So he survived not getting the boot right away but I do believe he will be gone Wednesday night's special eviction night.

Going into the final 4 and the end run, the house has become a House of Bore.

And Pepper you are right in that Andy did maneuver from side to side to side and did pass messages from side to side and escaped detection until the Elissa eviction, and as he said she had to go because she knew. But all the fabulous people were assholes in the end and are gone in the end and we are left with paint drying.

 

[Adrock-JD]

McCrae won POV

Spencer putting up Judd with GM

Andy and Spencer telling Judd that he's leaving tomorrow.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

And Pepper you are right in that Andy did maneuver from side to side to side and did pass messages from side to side and escaped detection until the Elissa eviction, and as he said she had to go because she knew. But all the fabulous people were assholes in the end and are gone in the end and we are left with paint drying.

It's just so disappointing because I've always wanted a gay guy on this show to play as skilfully as Andy has (perhaps with more of en eye to the jury though) and when one finally does, he manages to be so thoroughly unlikable, I can't root for him in ANY capacity.

On the plus side, it sounds from the live feeds like Judd is definitely getting the boot. Since he'll be stuck in sequester with a bunch of girls (which he clearly has issues with, like all douchebags) I hope they dance over his body and remind him that they were only evicted once but he was evicted twice.

 

[slipintothefog]

Andy was commenting on how attractive Jeremy is during that HOH competition. Enough said.

--the person who thought Spencer without a beard was kind of hot

 

[joesman]

I know they are voting out Judd. I do my catching up by reading Jokers. I can't watch the AD shows anymore because they are so boring. Since the last eviction all they do is bash people and in particular Elissa. GM at least has the gonads to bash Amanda in front of McCreepy, who is even more creepy without Amanda all over him. Probably one of the homeliest people ever, and a personality that is close to non existent.

 

[Adrock-JD]

I get the feeling that McCrae is a stoner. They all act like that. Non existent. Way too chilled.
Last night on AD they were all having a good time and not bashing anyone. Except McCrae, who was just lying there chewing his nails and staring into space. Out of context, I would think he was bummed that his girl was gone and the whole house was after him but that's not the case with him. He's been like this since day one.

 

[joesman]

At least if McCreepy wins he can buy himself a good stash and live happily in the basement.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

I get the feeling that McCrae is a stoner.

Ya think?? LOL. In addition to the signs you listed, it also explains his unwashed odor (at least according to the other houseguests).

 

[JohnG92]

Re: The Men of Big Brother 15

yesterday 9/9 at 4:11 pm McCrae stepped out of the shower without a towel.. could anyone get a cap of that???