Big fish are harder to land

[NotHardUp1]

A boat full of teens dumped two trash cans full of garbage into the waters off Boca Raton, Florida. The two boys may be charged with felonies, and a $50,000 fine, and possibly five years imprisonment.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article288306400.html

In a related story, Deepwater Horizon polluted the Gulf of Mexico with over 134,000,000 gallons of oil and killed 11 souls in the worst man-made oil disaster in the history of the industry.

No one was sent to prison

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0X3240/

 

[Peloso]

That's the system.

I read about injustices like this a lot. Can't remember anything specifically but if I run across one I will post it here.

 

[belamyi]

Wrong:

the risk of a few dozen or hundred of corporations/companies are more manageable, predicatable than that of hundreds and billions of unruly individuals isolated or in bunches;

those companies remain more useful and beneficial to the whole system of which we are part for as long as the damages they may cause are considered just as "manageable", down to the last "enlightened" and "activist" member of the system... little nobodies committing "felonies" for their own sake (the felonies and the felons), do not.


That is actually how the world works: nationals get more wrought up by "injustices" in their own mediatic backyard than those being committed everywhere else... or even by the ripples of far away ones reaching their own shores, not caring about other shores;

many of those good people even feel fascinated by such "criminal injustices" involving humans, while they are horrified by the spiritual damage they resent from the material disasters that do not actually reach their own front doors and backyards.

 

[NotHardUp1]

It's not that hard to weigh the relative damage of 134 million gallons of oil released in one of the most fished bodies of water in the US, versus less garbage thrown overboard by two college punks than a freighter likely dumps in an average trip to deliver a load of cargo containers.

Felonies are major crimes. I'm a huge supporter of conservation, and deplore pollution. But, that doesn't change the relative damage of two trash cans of garbage. It's a misdemeanor, just like dumping along a country road. Should be punished. Should have reasonable fine that escalates if major or repeated. Should be on a person's criminal record.

But punishment should be proportionate. There were people culpable for the Deepwater Horizon disaster that were criminally negligent, and they should be convicted of felonies.

 

[belamyi]

It's not that hard to weigh the relative damage of 134 million gallons of oil released in one of the most fished bodies of water in the US, versus less garbage thrown overboard by two college punks than a freighter likely dumps in an average trip to deliver a load of cargo containers.

Felonies are major crimes. I'm a huge supporter of conservation, and deplore pollution. But, that doesn't change the relative damage of two trash cans of garbage. It's a misdemeanor, just like dumping along a country road. Should be punished. Should have reasonable fine that escalates if major or repeated. Should be on a person's criminal record.

But punishment should be proportionate. There were people culpable for the Deepwater Horizon disaster that were criminally negligent, and they should be convicted of felonies.

Again, you are not listening, reading, caring: you are assessing the wrong amount... it is not the garbage of the punctual spilling, more or less massive: it is what lies behind, and what is concerned is not a couple of punks against a big company, but the prospect of millions of people doing whatever they want with no benefit for anyone, (not even a small cleaning company), against a corporation that supports the daily lives of millions of people and which is (illusionary, I may concede) under a certain sort of "control".