Bill Clinton says Romney/Bain Attack is a Mistake

[Kulindahr]

I personally think the case should be made (as part of a broader campaign that focuses on more than just Bain) but, seeing as it is being made now (as opposed to later) I'm thinking that it is going to be a "been there, done that" case that won't have legs throughout the summer.

It should be dropped, then later brought up in a new form -- like, "Mitt Romney said he was a successful businessman. But he won some, and lost some, helped some, and destroyed some. <pictures of Bain companies> We can't afford that for America. Don't risk a failed America: vote Obama".

 

[LuvFindsAndyHardy]

It should be dropped, then later brought up in a new form -- like, "Mitt Romney said he was a successful businessman. But he won some, and lost some, helped some, and destroyed some. <pictures of Bain companies> We can't afford that for America. Don't risk a failed America: vote Obama".

I like that!

 

[chance1]

so now we have JUBBERclubbers "reformulating" Obama's campaign strategy - tweaking the Bain attack

course prior to prominent Dems bringing this up, they were ALL OVER IT

They LOVED THE BAIN ATTACKS

Bain = evil - they bought it hook like and sinker

Romney is a bad man and a bad businessman

now ............. not so much

LOL

sorta wreaks of inauthenticity - which is my major problem with the Obama campaign

 

[LuvFindsAndyHardy]

The word is "reeks"

 

[chance1]

^ well you've been particularly unpleasant so I guess it figures you'd have that term "correct"

Bill Clinton is the # 1 Democrat politician in the country - and his words carry weight - LOTS

the JUBBERclubbers don't want to address this - it's hard for them to turn Clinton's words into:

Romney sucks
Romney's gonna lose
Bain Capital destroys lives
Private Equity is inherently evil
fill in other attack phrases os frequently repeated by the mob

so they're quiet - licking their wounds and waiting for another day

LOL

 

[Kulindahr]

Maybe people are tired of seeing you take everything anyone says and turning it into a whine degrading everyone but yourself.

 

[Rolyo85]

Maybe people are tired of seeing you take everything anyone says and turning it into a whine degrading everyone but yourself.

Yeah, this one gets my vote. Personally, I try to like you, Chance, but every time anyone says anything you disagree with, you try to turn it into a personally directed mockery, and it's beginning to wear thin. I removed you from my ignore list. Did I make a mistake? Or are you capable of arguing AND being decent at the same time? Most of us here aren't idiots. Do you think maybe you could stop treating us as such with this smugly superior "gotcha!" attitude? It's exhausting.

 

[LuvFindsAndyHardy]

Personally, I try to like you, Chance, but every time anyone says anything you disagree with, you try to turn it into a personally directed mockery, and it's beginning to wear thin.

This is the point I was trying to make yesterday.

Most of us here aren't idiots. Do you think maybe you could stop treating us as such with this smugly superior "gotcha!" attitude? It's exhausting.

I hope so because there's a whole about Chance I really like, but "exhausting" is currently where it's at.

 

[Centexfarmer]

He just needs to get laid. I've noticed that when he's gettin' some it's all good.

 

[rareboy]

Yeah, this one gets my vote. Personally, I try to like you, Chance, but every time anyone says anything you disagree with, you try to turn it into a personally directed mockery, and it's beginning to wear thin. I removed you from my ignore list. Did I make a mistake? Or are you capable of arguing AND being decent at the same time? Most of us here aren't idiots. Do you think maybe you could stop treating us as such with this smugly superior "gotcha!" attitude? It's exhausting.

It is way better to just leave some posters on ignore if they have nothing of value to add to an argument about 90% of the time but persist in constant personal attacks and derailing threads.

 

[chance1]

Yeah, this one gets my vote. Personally, I try to like you, Chance, but every time anyone says anything you disagree with, you try to turn it into a personally directed mockery, and it's beginning to wear thin. I removed you from my ignore list. Did I make a mistake? Or are you capable of arguing AND being decent at the same time? Most of us here aren't idiots. Do you think maybe you could stop treating us as such with this smugly superior "gotcha!" attitude? It's exhausting.

You'll have to decide on your "mistake" or not. I can't do that for you. And you don't speak for "we" or "us" just for you.

The "ignore" club is bunch of chicken shit, bile spewing, misogynistic hypocrites who basically live by the rule "do as I say not as I do". And that's their good qualities It's a hateful little group that loves to take shots but can't take a punch

Can you take a punch?

I like you too Rolyo - not all the time - but enough of the time

I appreciate your post and the honesty and will consider it

and will leave u with this

and back on topic:

I wonder what Bill Clinton is trying to do here - unlike Joe Biden who often speaks w/o thinking prior, Bill is smarter than that

so what's he doing here? I think he is tipping off Obama to get OFF this kick - that it sucks on many levels, #1 of which is it's dishonest

 

[aberro21]

Don't care what Bill, Corey and ED thinks. Wonder if all the people that lost their job thinks it's a mistake.
Their comments are probably self serving.

 

[chance1]

It is way better to just leave some posters on ignore if they have nothing of value to add to an argument about 90% of the time but persist in constant personal attacks and derailing threads.

your attempt at "advice" is so self serving

makes me think of the wizard of oz - and the man behind the curtain - perhaps you should stay behind the curtain

great movie wizard of oz - great characters

scarecrow - no brain
lion - no courage
tinman - no heart

and of course the wicked witch

you def have a brain

meanwhile you have NO comment about Bill C's riff about Romney/Bain - this from a guy who values his opinion far too often so what gives?

 

[aberro21]

aren't everyone's comments self-serving?

I don't see why the opinions of someone who was fired by Bain would be any more or less valuable than the opinions of someone who was able to retire thanks to pension accounts managed by Bain.

Just to clarify I meant Bill's comment is probably self serving.
If those pension accounts grew because a lot of people lost their jobs and homes than their opinions matter more. I would rather work for the rest of my life.
Diamonds make a lot of people rich and enslaves others. Whose opinion is more valuable?
The President isn't attacking Bain. He's debunking Romney's claim. CEO of Bain = good president

I have an off topic question. How does Romney have 2nd cousins twice removed all with the last name Romney?
How does that work? I have 1st cousins and we don't even have the same last name.

 

[Kulindahr]

You'll have to decide on your "mistake" or not. I can't do that for you. And you don't speak for "we" or "us" just for you.

Funny -- speaking for others is one of your favorite hobbies.

 

[Kulindahr]

I have an off topic question. How does Romney have 2nd cousins twice removed all with the last name Romney?
How does that work? I have 1st cousins and we don't even have the same last name.

All depends which branch of the family tree they're on. Where descent follows only the male line, the family name will remain the same, and you can have second, third, and fourth cousins with the same name.

 

[Stardreamer]

It should be dropped, then later brought up in a new form -- like, "Mitt Romney said he was a successful businessman. But he won some, and lost some, helped some, and destroyed some. <pictures of Bain companies> We can't afford that for America. Don't risk a failed America: vote Obama".

I'm not sure what the point of such a strategy would be? We have all 'won some and lost some'. Is the message that we can only have a 'Perfect' person who has never failed at anything in order to be President? That is going to REALLY narrow the pool of candidates.

 

[Stardreamer]

^ well you've been particularly unpleasant so I guess it figures you'd have that term "correct"

Bill Clinton is the # 1 Democrat politician in the country - and his words carry weight - LOTS

the JUBBERclubbers don't want to address this - it's hard for them to turn Clinton's words into:

Romney sucks
Romney's gonna lose
Bain Capital destroys lives
Private Equity is inherently evil
fill in other attack phrases os frequently repeated by the mob

so they're quiet - licking their wounds and waiting for another day

LOL

I think it was on Hugh Hewitt's show they were talking about Clinton's comments. The guest was saying that one of Clinton's successes as President is he reached out to the business community and let them know that Democrats were not anti-business. The result was a more balanced interaction between the business community and the Democrats that has benefited both sides. The fear is that this would all be undone by an anti-business tone in the Obama campaign.

 

[Kulindahr]

I'm not sure what the point of such a strategy would be? We have all 'won some and lost some'. Is the message that we can only have a 'Perfect' person who has never failed at anything in order to be President? That is going to REALLY narrow the pool of candidates.

I suppose it could have that effect. But the point is that when Romney "lost", it meant a destroyed company, pensions gone, people with no jobs, towns in trouble... and that's a gamble we can't afford to take with the country.

 

[Kulindahr]

I think it was on Hugh Hewitt's show they were talking about Clinton's comments. The guest was saying that one of Clinton's successes as President is he reached out to the business community and let them know that Democrats were not anti-business. The result was a more balanced interaction between the business community and the Democrats that has benefited both sides. The fear is that this would all be undone by an anti-business tone in the Obama campaign.

Hm. I don't see the "anti-business tone", though, just an "anti-playing-with-people's-lives" tone.