Bizarre Article: Black Gay Man in America Starts All Young White Guy Meet Up Group

[MorrisseyX]

Wow just read a very bizarre and sad article. A gay black man in America is the founder of some white gay meetup group BUT only white men are allowed to join the group. It sounds like a gay sex party disguised as a group. What is interesting is the only man of colour who is a part of the group is the black American guy who started the group. No other men of colour are allowed even so called white Hispanics are excluded. The group has 200 members, but why would a black gay man do this? I kind of wished the article probed a bit deeper. I don't blame the white guys for joining the group as one member pointed out a black gay man started the group. Now, I am not saying people can be exclusive to whom they want to be around. I am just stunned an African American gay man is the leader of this group. This reminds me of a guy I saw in the Toronto baths a few years ago. He is a tall, dark, very thin man he looked African like Somalian or Ethiopian. However, this black guy would blow every single white man he saw. It didn't matter if the white guy was twenty eight or eighty years old as long as the man was white. The white guy could look like Freddie Kurger and this guy would blow him. I think this article is good because there is a propensity for gay men of colour to complain about sexual racism BUT when are gay men of colour going to admit that we sometimes gay men of colour also discriminate against each other? Link to article:http://www.newnownext.com/meetup-gr...-alive-and-well-in-the-gay-community/04/2016/

 

[pat grimshaw]

fair enough.

 

[Telstra]

Wow just read a very bizarre and sad article. A gay black man in America is the founder of some white gay meetup group BUT only white men are allowed to join the group. It sounds like a gay sex party disguised as a group. What is interesting is the only man of colour who is a part of the group is the black American guy who started the group. No other men of colour are allowed even so called white Hispanics are excluded. The group has 200 members, but why would a black gay man do this? I kind of wished the article probed a bit deeper. I don't blame the white guys for joining the group as one member pointed out a black gay man started the group. Now, I am not saying people can be exclusive to whom they want to be around. I am just stunned an African American gay man is the leader of this group. This reminds me of a guy I saw in the Toronto baths a few years ago. He is a tall, dark, very thin man he looked African like Somalian or Ethiopian. However, this black guy would blow every single white man he saw. It didn't matter if the white guy was twenty eight or eighty years old as long as the man was white. The white guy could look like Freddie Kurger and this guy would blow him. I think this article is good because there is a propensity for gay men of colour to complain about sexual racism BUT when are gay men of colour going to admit that we sometimes gay men of colour also discriminate against each other? Link to article:http://www.newnownext.com/meetup-gr...-alive-and-well-in-the-gay-community/04/2016/

lol the logic is simple.
Because he want all the men he is attracted to for himself !!!

 

[pat grimshaw]

...Because he want all the men he is attracted to for himself !!!

Yep. I know two groups which started and failed because the guy who started them didn't want to share.

 

[Cormac135]

Whatever floats his boat.

Maybe he's just fed up dealing with brothers on the downlow.

 

[MorrisseyX]

Whatever floats his boat.

Maybe he's just fed up dealing with brothers on the downlow.

Or maybe the guy who started the group is only into white men I mean that is pretty obvious. I just don't agree with you trying to turn the blame on to other black gay men. I am guessing you are not black. But there is a complex that SOME black gay men have who are out of the closet they believe they are somehow better than blacks who are not out as gay.
I don't know if your comment is serious or a joke? I am not an American so an African American would have to answer your question better. But the Meetup group is in Washington DC which has a large black gay population. Now, my comments are not about whether the black guy should start of the group or not because he did. What I find odd is why would white gay guys be a part of a group that is exclusive to whites yet a black guy started it? I mean why don't the white gay guys who want an exclusive club just start it? Just have their own group?

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Whatever floats his boat.

Maybe he's just fed up dealing with brothers on the downlow.

Or it is the white women.

 

[Telstra]

Or maybe the guy who started the group is only into white men I mean that is pretty obvious. I just don't agree with you trying to turn the blame on to other black gay men. I am guessing you are not black. But there is a complex that SOME black gay men have who are out of the closet they believe they are somehow better than blacks who are not out as gay.
I don't know if your comment is serious or a joke? I am not an American so an African American would have to answer your question better. But the Meetup group is in Washington DC which has a large black gay population. Now, my comments are not about whether the black guy should start of the group or not because he did. What I find odd is why would white gay guys be a part of a group that is exclusive to whites yet a black guy started it? I mean why don't the white gay guys who want an exclusive club just start it? Just have their own group?

How do you know no one has done this before?
You have to assumed every thoughts or actions you have is not unique because human brains are similar

 

[Taralen]

It's not just only for white men. It's for men under 35. It's for men who are masculine. It's for men who are "attractive".

So it goes deeper than that. It's racism, ageism and sexist.

I'm pretty sure the "black" guy is probably biracial. I've noticed that many gay biracial black guys only deal with white men and white men seem to be attracted to them the most.

If he isn't, then he's probably recruiting for some sick ass porno fetish movie or something. lol.

This is really sad, but I'm not surprised. You go on Xtube and all the black guys have nothing but white looking guys in their favorite videos. lol.

White in this society is seen as right and attractive. It's just the way it is. I'm not defending his actions and I think he's a fucking snow queen house slave, but dealing with DL black men is tough, and guys who are usually in the black gay community, only date black guys so it's an issue that goes both ways.

Also the group link is deleted, so I think our bitching paid off.

 

[refujiunderground]

Another reason to basically flee away from the gay community. Too much bullshit. If you're a down to earth, regular guy that just wants to have a regular, better life, there seems to be more screwed up people then sensible, decent people.


Think it's quite sad that all the crazies seem to pop up or get all the credit and all the normal people are invisible or hiding. Like damn... and you know what's fucked up


If you're a normal sensible black guy that's not crazy, really fucking flamboyant, loud, over the top effeminate, on some sellout, uncle Tom shit, proud of your culture, your roots, and etc basically the openly gay black male stereotype, you have to deal with more bullshit from everyone else especially those within the gay community. Hell, straight people embrace you more than your own people. They respect you more. They treat you like you're normal. Your gay peers most of them come at you with some bullshit and when you basically are like wtf, they try to make you out into being crazy where you literally gotta ignore them or avoid them.

Like if you're not effeminate or in the scene like that, all wearing your rainbow flag because you don't feel like doing that shit or that's just not you , these fucking pricks especially some of these white guys got the nerve to say that you're closeted or you're on the downlow. Excuse me? How the fuck are you going to tell me how gay I am or how I should act out my "gayness"? I'm sorry if I'm taking my time with coming out and am not on a rapid pace of being a caricature of a gay man instead of being me. I don't see any of that bullshit going towards these white guys that are on same shit. In fact, it's celebrated where it's like a fantasy to turn a straight white guy out. Like give me a fucking break. The masculine gay white guy is put on a pedestal and you know, what... nobody questions how gay he is. All of a sudden, I have to demasculinate myself because I'm a gay black man. I can't listen to rap because I'm gay? My voice has to be effeminate and shit? Like I don't have a choice?

I'm so tired of the bullshit within the gay community and how us black men can't even get a fucking break. We can't even be our fucking selves as individuals without someone trying to fucking job onto us.

My narrative is mine. I don't need another person to tell me who I should be and shit.

 

[MorrisseyX]

It's not just only for white men. It's for men under 35. It's for men who are masculine. It's for men who are "attractive".

So it goes deeper than that. It's racism, ageism and sexist.

I'm pretty sure the "black" guy is probably biracial. I've noticed that many gay biracial black guys only deal with white men and white men seem to be attracted to them the most.

If he isn't, then he's probably recruiting for some sick ass porno fetish movie or something. lol.

This is really sad, but I'm not surprised. You go on Xtube and all the black guys have nothing but white looking guys in their favorite videos. lol.

White in this society is seen as right and attractive. It's just the way it is. I'm not defending his actions and I think he's a fucking snow queen house slave, but dealing with DL black men is tough, and guys who are usually in the black gay community, only date black guys so it's an issue that goes both ways.

Also the group link is deleted, so I think our bitching paid off.

Yeah whatever floats his boat the guy who started the Meetup.com group. It would be nice in pop culture to see more positive images of gay black men in the media. At least the guy is a black American, try being black and gay in a country where you are less than 3% of the total population LOL! In Toronto, most of the men are of African or Caribbean heritage and plenty are not out due to a variety of reasons. And I have sympathy for these closeted black gay men. But it is a bit frustrating, not easy to meet black gay guys who are out of the closet. I imagine it is better for black gays in America you got your black gay prides, and black gay bars, ect.
I have noticed this among biracials as well and the attitude of some of those mixed race celebrities like Madison Keys, Zoe Saldana, Tiger Woods, or Zendaya.

 

[eastofeden]

Hmmmm...where to start....

The first guy who responded actually stole my answer....but I can elaborate....

Every time I hear people complaining about what people put in their ads and I defend them...I am NOT endorsing or agreeing with ANYTHING they are saying..I am simply trying to point out the power of free speech and how many good things come from it....

...and this is a GREAT thing!!!!

Why?

Racism is an issue that is tough for most people to even address...and they will mostly refuse to even look at it or have an honest dialogue with themselves...or pretend whatever the fuck they want.....and then they will dig their heels in the sand.....

Groups like this give everyone a chance to honestly look at an issue and you should thank them for being honest...because there are millions of other people who don't even know they are lying to themselves...or don't even know they are racist....and yelling at them does nothing. Using this example is great because they at least put it on the table and are honest about it...and so you can begin an honest dialogue....even if they make your skin crawl or make you want to take a bath to get the stench off of you...they exist and are proud of it...so that gets you past the yelling back and forth ...

I think this should be shared on every gay site.....they are so disgusting I think everyone deserves a chance to look at the mirror that they left on the table for anyone to use...not many people will be that brazen so the mirror is a gift.....

These people can become a mirror for the people who are racist but don't want to be...or don't know it...or are ashamed of themselves. That is what Fred Phelps did to homophobes...he became their mirror..and pundits write about how shocked they are that society changed so fast on the issue and claimed it was unprecedented when it is obvious to me that Freddie deserves the credit.....because he was saying what so many or them were thinking..and he made them look at themselves....and evolve...because they got to see how fucking ugly they were....and his open hostility toward gay people was as ugly an example as they come.....

What a gift! I lit candles for the fucker on his deathbed....he was our best ally....damnit...

In the end..hopefully the black guy planned on creating this mirror....I can only hope that is the case. If he did...I would thank him myself because most race discussions end up polarizing the participants which is not productive....

Join this group today to be invited to our next party! You must be white, fit, masculine, 21 to 35 to get in. This is a drug-free zone. The group encourages healthy and fun activities, masculine activities, like team sports, listening to rock music, parties, and much more! If you are a young, fit, masc white dude who likes other dudes – a bromo – join this group. The group is fun and the guys are fun.

Oh yeah ^^^^ these guys sound like Modern Day Nazi Youth...really creepy...OMG...

In the end...they left a lot of good things to debate....

For instance..this:

We oppose political correctness – we do not support diversity. If someone considers the group ’racist’ or the organizer ’self-hating,’ we don’t care. It’s ridiculous how race is the only aspect of the group that gets criticized. Why single that out? People hang around people with the characteristics they like. This is normal. All women, all men, and all black groups wouldn’t get the same criticism.

They have a point..there ARE groups that are all women...or all men...or all black...and so many other things that are all one thing....

...so start by discussing that.

A discussion is not yelling at them. For starters...I would ask directly why there was a Black Man in charge of a group that did not allow Black People?? I can figure out the answer myself....but I want to hear their answer..in depth. Wait for an answer...a clear and specific answer. Force them to tell the truth..and then go to the next question. If they don't answer the question.,..keep repeating it 'til they do.

For instance...if they say they only like young and fit and masculine white males like themselves...honest enough. Preferences are what they are...so move to the next one. Let them paint their own picture.....because it isn't pretty.

Then ask them what they do when one of their "bros" turns the magical age of 35?...do they turn into Children of the Corn? ...or gains any weight?...or decides he is a REAL friend of Dorothy and decides to put on a dress?...or (gasp)...finds out they are racially "impure"? Do they get kicked out? What if one of the bros gets into an accident and gets a scar or two?...or is disfigured or suffers burns? Kicked out? After all..it is all about "preferences"...eh?

If you want to show them that the other groups are actually different..you have to see who they are as individuals..and as a group...first...and instead of telling them...let them tell you...coax them to be even "more honest"...

It might not make a bit of difference for any of them..but other people are reading too...and it might help them evolve....

 

[sixthson]

It not only says a lot about the black guy who organized it, but it says a lot about a bunch of cookie cutter white gay guys who would be cool with it. I'm a white, gay man but I would never want to associate with only whites, gays or men. They all sound very dull and deserve each other.

 

[rareboy]

I once had a white friend who wouldn't fuck anyone who wasn't black or Middle Eastern.

Takes all kinds, I guess.

 

[LeicsDom]

Wow just read a very bizarre and sad article. A gay black man in America is the founder of some white gay meetup group BUT only white men are allowed to join the group. It sounds like a gay sex party disguised as a group. What is interesting is the only man of colour who is a part of the group is the black American guy who started the group. No other men of colour are allowed even so called white Hispanics are excluded. The group has 200 members, but why would a black gay man do this?

Obviously because he is a black guy who is into white guys.
What is so odd about that? There are plenty of black guys (and especially Asians) who won't ever fuck within their own colour

 

[MorrisseyX]

Obviously because he is a black guy who is into white guys.
What is so odd about that? There are plenty of black guys (and especially Asians) who won't ever fuck within their own colour

This is true not disagreeing with you but I am disappointed in the black guy who runs the group. If he really is black because no one knows for sure it shows that he has been affected by racism as well. It is okay for people to have a preference but I sense the black gay guy who is the organizer has self hate issues with himself. And that is something white gay men might not understand? Since whites are the majority they really are the defacto group everyone else is compared against. I mean how many white people say they do not like being white? Look at Steve Grand ignorance a few weeks ago claiming he is discriminated against because he is a young white gay man. I am guessing a very small number. But in communities of colour across the world self hate is real. You got people in Asia getting eye lid surgery to get the double fold. Some Asians in North America having same surgery. People in Africa and India and even here in North America are bleaching their skin to make it lighter. When people of colour who have experienced discrimination also discriminates in this manner it says more about them. Some gays of colour think sleeping with a white guy means they in a metaphorical sense become white themselves. I posted the article because there is a propensity in the gay community to look at sexual racism as a one way street and it is not. Often men of colour can be just as bigoted towards each other.

 

[peeonme]

Let them do as they wish, when it comes to whose dick you want to suck it's all a matter of taste.

 

[Benvolio]

This is true not disagreeing with you but I am disappointed in the black guy who runs the group. If he really is black because no one knows for sure it shows that he has been affected by racism as well. It is okay for people to have a preference but I sense the black gay guy who is the organizer has self hate issues with himself. And that is something white gay men might not understand? Since whites are the majority they really are the defacto group everyone else is compared against. I mean how many white people say they do not like being white? Look at Steve Grand ignorance a few weeks ago claiming he is discriminated against because he is a young white gay man. I am guessing a very small number. But in communities of colour across the world self hate is real. You got people in Asia getting eye lid surgery to get the double fold. Some Asians in North America having same surgery. People in Africa and India and even here in North America are bleaching their skin to make it lighter. When people of colour who have experienced discrimination also discriminates in this manner it says more about them. Some gays of colour think sleeping with a white guy means they in a metaphorical sense become white themselves. I posted the article because there is a propensity in the gay community to look at sexual racism as a one way street and it is not. Often men of colour can be just as bigoted towards each other.

Whites are not the majority in Asia, Africa or India so your liberal dogma that the preference is only a matter of whites being the majority fails. Darker is the majority color in India and Africa, so it should be prefered by your dogma.

 

[dereperez]

Everyone has preferences, whether they like to admit to it or not. From what I see, they are all mutually consenting adults who get off on their particular preferences. They're not doing anything wrong.

It's those that don't own up to their preferences/bias/prejudice that get me going. I just can't stand hypocrisy.

 

[Benvolio]

The preference of Indians for lighter skin is inherent in its ancient caste system. https://www.quora.com/Why-does-the-Indian-society-prefer-a-light-skin-complexion-over-a-dark-one