Black People?

[Cormac135]

To some extent, but not all of us continue to do it.

You do it to me constantly, even jumping on the back of Ghetto's/KW comments over the last few days, it was pretty toxic stuff, please stop it.

 

[HoodedRat]

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

There's always had a gang mentality at JUB. JUBber A dislikes JUBber B, so all of JUBber A's friends dislike JUBber B and then the sniping begins. Kind of like grade school. We'd be much better off responding to what people say instead of to personalities. That's easier said than done, however, but not as much fun, either.

Yeah, unfortunately wish the gang mentality stuff stayed in high school. Unfortunately it still exists in the real world outside of JUB as well.

 

[ballcaphair]

Post unto others as you would have them post unto you, flamers!

 

[Kulindahr]

Yes, unfortunate indeed. Heaven knows it is only Hardup who does that huh, not any one of about 30 members who do it, including the one being discussed?

The revival coming to Hot Topics is a tad late. One doubts the conversions despite the altar call.

My brain is in a weird place today--

When I read "altar call", my mind threw up an image of drag queens marching down an aisle to the music that started this thread.

 

[Kulindahr]

There's always had a gang mentality at JUB. JUBber A dislikes JUBber B, so all of JUBber A's friends dislike JUBber B and then the sniping begins. Kind of like grade school. We'd be much better off responding to what people say instead of to personalities. That's easier said than done, however, but not as much fun, either.

I think that was a big reason that a certain faux general got banned long ago.

 

[Kulindahr]

You do it to me constantly, even jumping on the back of Ghetto's/KW comments over the last few days, it was pretty toxic stuff, please stop it.

Sounds like you need one of these:

 

[Kulindahr]

Do you have some with garlic?

 

[NotHardUp1]

I return to my earlier comments. I have no need or want of demeaning Ghetto. His posts continually derided America and injected race in threads that had no racial component. When I challenged assertions, when I presented data and research that countered points, it was met with acrimony instead of debating the points in contention.

I was imputed with positions I have not taken, do not defend and do not support.

That is my problem. And it is the same as with others before. Argue the points. Use evidence. Don't create a bogey man where there is a person opposite you who speaks for himself. The other person doesn't have to be evil incarnate for your point to be upheld.

And whether it's labelled as thin-skinned or whatever, I have no more obligation to let broadsides and generalizations go by unchallenged than the proponent is to not make them. It's the internet. It's a Hot Topics forum. It's pretty much intended to be post and retort.

It gets personal when one or both sides will not stay to the points and moves to simply slam the other person rather than the positions.

 

[Alistair]

I return to my earlier comments. I have no need or want of demeaning Ghetto. His posts continually derided America and injected race in threads that had no racial component. When I challenged assertions, when I presented data and research that countered points, it was met with acrimony instead of debating the points in contention.

I was imputed with positions I have not taken, do not defend and do not support.

That is my problem. And it is the same as with others before. Argue the points. Use evidence. Don't create a bogey man where there is a person opposite you who speaks for himself. The other person doesn't have to be evil incarnate for your point to be upheld.

And whether it's labelled as thin-skinned or whatever, I have no more obligation to let broadsides and generalizations go by unchallenged than the proponent is to not make them. It's the internet. It's a Hot Topics forum. It's pretty much intended to be post and retort.

It gets personal when one or both sides will not stay to the points and moves to simply slam the other person rather than the positions.

Paraphrased: I haven't gotten in enough ghetto bashing, let me add in some more.

 

[Kulindahr]

^
I keep wondering if many people here tend to see the negative in others rather than the positive. I know that dumping on people has become easier thanks to the internet because it's so impersonal; is that why the negativity here?

 

[Kulindahr]

Paraphrased: I haven't gotten in enough ghetto bashing, let me add in some more.

How you got that out of what he wrote baffles me.

 

[Alistair]

How you got that out of what he wrote baffles me.

Even him bring ghetto up in a post after all he's said about him is going to be bashing him. I don't even see the point in him outting him as being Karen in this thread. He's just being vindictive.

 

[NotHardUp1]

There is no outing of Ghetto as Karen. It wasn't any secret. You could see it in all the old threads.

I explained my conflict with Ghetto because it was dismissed as smearing. It isn't smearing. It was a conflict that originated in Ghetto blowing up when I challenged his assertions about race, about Americans being stupid, and others.

Making it all out to be some smear campaign is pejorative and partisan. Ghetto can post what he wants, and does, and did, and I didn't see you rushing out to quiet him. It's simply your bias. And it shows plenty.

 

[HoodedRat]

Note: all popcorn consumed by me, and also offered to others in this thread (in lieu of contributing any potentially controversial posts), is butter-free, sugar-free, salt-free and is made from non gmo corn.

 

[Alistair]

There is no outing of Ghetto as Karen. It wasn't any secret. You could see it in all the old threads.

I explained my conflict with Ghetto because it was dismissed as smearing. It isn't smearing. It was a conflict that originated in Ghetto blowing up when I challenged his assertions about race, about Americans being stupid, and others.

Making it all out to be some smear campaign is pejorative and partisan. Ghetto can post what he wants, and does, and did, and I didn't see you rushing out to quiet him. It's simply your bias. And it shows plenty.

I didn't? Funny, I remember asking both of you to stop your racist arguing in the Florida shooting thread.

And your white bias had been plastered all over the site.

 

[sixthson]

Note: all popcorn consumed by me, and also offered to others in this thread (in lieu of contributing any potentially controversial posts), is butter-free, sugar-free, salt-free and is made from non gmo corn.

Would you mind if I brought over a bag or three of Nacho Chesse Doritos, chock full of additive and chemicals not to mention transfatty acids? Chase it with a Guiness Stout will correct any possible damage done by the chips.

 

[NotHardUp1]

I didn't? Funny, I remember asking both of you to stop your racist arguing in the Florida shooting thread.

And your white bias had been plastered all over the site.

And therein lies the issue. Not accepting every accusation someone makes about race is translated into white bias. Of course, there is not white supremacy anywhere in any of my posts. And I've often posted support for civil rights, for immigrants, for Obama, and other similar veins.

But, in our zero sum world, if you don't toe the line on every point some SJW dictates, you're instantly the villain. I don't buy, and I don't accept that all-or-nothing polarization.

I get painted by some extremists a some racist monster, but I do plenty in promoting civil rights and I'm not ever going to just cede the field to those who want to pipe the tune for everyone to dance.

I'm happy to answer any specifics, but making some generalization is just more of the same in the slur department.

Whatever "white bias" means to you, show it.

 

[Cormac135]

Can we not all move on people, put the past in the past, let sleeping dogs lie, shake hands and depart as friends, we're all the same under the skin are we not. enough is enough is enough.

 

[NotHardUp1]

I'm agreeable to dropping it. I don't have to respond when I don't have to respond.