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Boston police officer saves man about to jump off of a train platform BUT.....

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As you can see here, after the cop grabs him as he is about to fall, the officer violently slams him to the ground, do you believe this is excessive force, or not? I'm really on the fence about this, Yeah, the man was about to jump to his death and the officer acted in the heat of the moment, but if the man was not going to jump and the cop grabbed him and slammed him to the ground like that, it would 100% be construed as police brutality.
 

As you can see here, after the cop grabs him as he is about to fall, the officer violently slams him to the ground, do you believe this is excessive force, or not? I'm really on the fence about this, Yeah, the man was about to jump to his death and the officer acted in the heat of the moment, but if the man was not going to jump and the cop grabbed him and slammed him to the ground like that, it would 100% be construed as police brutality.

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Didn't seem that violent to me. Seems to me the officer was just making sure the man wasn't going to move back into the track.
 
Park Street stop. I was actually there today amusingly. The cop threw the guy down as a way to 'disarm' him. If someone is gonna 'jump', it's wise to throw them back and down so they don't.
 

As you can see here, after the cop grabs him as he is about to fall, the officer violently slams him to the ground, do you believe this is excessive force, or not? I'm really on the fence about this, Yeah, the man was about to jump to his death and the officer acted in the heat of the moment, but if the man was not going to jump and the cop grabbed him and slammed him to the ground like that, it would 100% be construed as police brutality.

There is no way that is police brutality in any case. Whether a suicide prevention effort or an arrest.

the officer rolled him onto the ground, he didn't piledrive him into it. The officer has to believe the person will struggle and keep trying to jump anyway. That puts the man at continued danger, and more important, it puts the officer and other innocent bystanders in danger. The officer's only goal should be to put the person on the ground in a definitive way so there is no chance of a struggle or people jumping anyway or anyone getting pushed toward the train.

Perfect work by a careful and quick-thinking, observant, well-trained officer.
 
I don't think I made my opinion clear in the OP. I do believe that the way the cop threw the guy on the ground would be considered excessive force under normal circumstances, but in this situation because the guys life was on the line, there was a valid need for such force. Don't get me wrong, there is absolutely ZERO excuse for police brutality in any situation, but I believe that in THIS situation, despite him using excessive force, it isn't really police brutality.
 
I think that was proper behaviour for an ordinary arrest, if the individual was showing signs of not cooperating and preparing to flee.
 
Hell...I was more forceful than that when I had to throw out a drunk and I didn't have a doorman
 
Xboxfan, if you were the suicidal victim, I'd let you go to heaven than risk a lawsuit for "police brutality." Even in your IF scenario, there is nothing close to police brutality. These days spoiled citizens scream police brutality when a cop passes gas next to them.
 
The cop threw the guy down as a way to 'disarm' him. If someone is gonna 'jump', it's wise to throw them back and down so they don't.

That move was exactly the way I acted as a lifeguard more than once to rein in a kid about to push another kid into the pool: you get them back away from the edge and powerless. Of course, as a lifeguard I had to worry a bit about concrete rash, but by rolling the person you can usually avoid that. So it doesn't look over-forceful to me at all -- when you're moving for someone's safety, you don't go with halfway measures.
 
I don't think I made my opinion clear in the OP. I do believe that the way the cop threw the guy on the ground would be considered excessive force under normal circumstances,

No.

No it wasn't.

We make light contact for takedowns in my karate class so as not to hurt the other guy during training, and we're rougher than that, and still not rough on each other. You have to be in order to get someone unwilling to move to actually move. That guy was firm but not even close to brutal.

Quite honestly that is in the Top 5 most ridiculous assertions I have read in 2014, even including all of rainbow-dick's nonsense.

-d-
 
As you can see here, after the cop grabs him as he is about to fall, the officer violently slams him to the ground, do you believe this is excessive force, or not? I'm really on the fence about this, Yeah, the man was about to jump to his death and the officer acted in the heat of the moment, but if the man was not going to jump and the cop grabbed him and slammed him to the ground like that, it would 100% be construed as police brutality.

Nah, i think he was just making sure the guy didn't leap up and try again
 
I don't think I made my opinion clear in the OP. I do believe that the way the cop threw the guy on the ground would be considered excessive force under normal circumstances, but in this situation because the guys life was on the line, there was a valid need for such force. Don't get me wrong, there is absolutely ZERO excuse for police brutality in any situation, but I believe that in THIS situation, despite him using excessive force, it isn't really police brutality.

Then let me be clear - there wasn't any force at all! He spun the guy, let him fall under his own weight, then restrained him.

I've seen "actual" force on Cops. In a world full of stories of police brutality, this couldn't be further from one.
 
I don't think I made my opinion clear in the OP. I do believe that the way the cop threw the guy on the ground would be considered excessive force under normal circumstances, but in this situation because the guys life was on the line, there was a valid need for such force. Don't get me wrong, there is absolutely ZERO excuse for police brutality in any situation, but I believe that in THIS situation, despite him using excessive force, it isn't really police brutality.

Nice way to do a complete 180 after your shit comes back to slap you in the face. #-o:=D:..|
 
Well I really don't have to add anything as everybody else has said it.

But just to emphasize; there was absolutely no brutality in his method of putting the guy out of action.
 
Note how I never said what the cop in the video did was police brutality. I think that the amount of force he used was excessive, but necessary in the same vein for all of the reasons that you gave.

I do NOT believe that he was trying to hurt the man intentionally AT ALL.
 
Note how I never said what the cop in the video did was police brutality. I think that the amount of force he used was excessive, but necessary in the same vein for all of the reasons that you gave.

I do NOT believe that he was trying to hurt the man intentionally AT ALL.

I don't think any of us agree with you on this point.
 
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