Boston police officer saves man about to jump off of a train platform BUT.....

[MoufOfKhaos]

Are you kidding me?!?! Your first post in the thread states that:

after the cop grabs him as he is about to fall, the officer violently slams him to the ground, do you believe this is excessive force, or not?

You most certainly DID say that what the cop did was excessive, over the line "in other circumstances", ergo the call of police brutality, or your straddling the line between believing it was or wasn't, when the video shows it's not even close to being brutal, much less a "heated" reaction. The cop used no force at all other than directing a drunk away from the track, and letting gravity and loss of coordination do the rest.

 

[Kulindahr]

Nah, i think he was just making sure the guy didn't leap up and try again

Exactly -- you don't just half-assed-like pull a guy back, you get him and yourself to certain safety. In this case that meant getting the two of them to a position both far enough away from the tracks and low enough to eliminate the possibility the guy might react with sudden vigor and topple both to death -- just like I didn't just make a kid starting to push another kid into the pool take a step back, I got him clear out of reach of his intended victim, and off his feet in case he decided to try a fight with a lifeguard.

 

[Kulindahr]

You most certainly DID say that what the cop did was excessive, over the line "in other circumstances", ergo the call of police brutality, or your straddling the line between believing it was or wasn't, when the video shows it's not even close to being brutal, much less a "heated" reaction. The cop used no force at all other than directing a drunk away from the track, and letting gravity and loss of coordination do the rest.

The cop actually did a pretty good job of not being brutal at all. Guiding an uncoordinated drunk to a position of safety can't be easy, yet he managed it almost like a dance move.

 

[Kulindahr]

Disambiguation is a tricky art.

Is it not true that a cop using excessive force by definition is being brutal? Intent is not the definition of brutality, but action is. You argue that the cop used excessive force. That IS what police brutality is. Informal definitions may make it into intentional beating, but the actual definition is simply brutish physical treatment.

Here in my state, a diabetic was yanked out of a car by incensed sheriff's deputies last year during a traffic accident arrest. The diabetic was entering into a comatose state which the cop mistook for drug stupor. In arresting the poor woman, the cop handcuffed her and left her face down on the scorching hot asphalt. The woman couldn't get up. That's police brutality, resulting from indifference and unnecessary barbaric treatment, even if neglectful rather than malicious. Bastards.

http://www.koat.com/news/new-mexico/dashcam-video-shows-womans-arrest-during-diabetic-episode/21042682

And all the fans of the show COPS think that's the way cops are supposed to do it.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

That's violent to you?

[STRIKE]We're white. We hold the Police to different standards...[/STRIKE]

Here in The Netherlands the policeman would probably have shot him.

 

[pat grimshaw]

...Here in my state, a diabetic was yanked out of a car by incensed sheriff's deputies last year during a traffic accident arrest. The diabetic was entering into a comatose state which the cop mistook for drug stupor. In arresting the poor woman, the cop handcuffed her and left her face down on the scorching hot asphalt. The woman couldn't get up. That's police brutality, resulting from indifference and unnecessary barbaric treatment, even if neglectful rather than malicious. Bastards.

http://www.koat.com/news/new-mexico/dashcam-video-shows-womans-arrest-during-diabetic-episode/21042682

I hear diabetes is one of the fastest growing diseases now in affluent countries. But do diabetics really just collapse like that into a state whereby they can't operate a motor car?

 

[Junior42]

I find this thread ridiculous. There was absolutely NO EXCESSIVE force in that video under ANY CIRCUMSTANCE!! What a moronic post by the OP

 

[cgymike]

Cop likely saved his life. Nothing to do with diabetes.

 

[pat grimshaw]

I think anyone —whatever their age— with these conditions should be monitoring their blood glucose levels and NOT be handling LETHAL motorcars.

 

[Willie Boy]

Diabetes not related to the video in the OP.

Diabetic arrested in Santa Fe was losing coherence when she rear-ended a truck in front of her. For the record, she was 67 years old. The sheriff deputies who arrived at the scene of the collision asked her to come out of the car. She was in such a state of delirium, she couldn't open the car door.

The deputies broke her window and dragged her out of the car while she was uttering that she was having a diabetic seizure. They cuffed her and left her on the pavement, in the broken glass they had just created.

When taken to the squad car, they finally realized their blunder, and paramedics were brought in. No idea if she has Type I or II diabetes, but she isn't overweight.

If she had it since childhood it would be type I otherwise type II. That's the only real difference. And the cops are lucky. Even in that short amount of time she could have slipped into a diabetic coma and died without medical care.

 

[pat grimshaw]

This Youtube commentator discusses another incident between a policeman and a driver with a medical condition (she's having a miscarriage)

 

[dpnice]

Is it just my experience, my colour of skin and my age? But I would not even hesitate following/obeying any sort of order given to me by a member of the police force.

There is time to argue about the correctness of the treatment later on but in the heat of the moment I would do exactly as I was told without questioning nor hesitating.

 

[Vitamin]

If, in order to save a man dying from dehydration due to diarrhea, I slam my cock up his ass as a butt plug, is it still rape?

 

[MoufOfKhaos]

[STRIKE]We're white. We hold the Police to different standards...[/STRIKE]

Here in The Netherlands the policeman would probably have shot him.

If you think you're being cute with your racist comments - I believe the guy that made thread is white - you're not. You're not funny. Just stop.

 

[Kulindahr]

I hear diabetes is one of the fastest growing diseases now in affluent countries. But do diabetics really just collapse like that into a state whereby they can't operate a motor car?

It can sneak up on a person. Sometimes by the time they realize the problem, immediate action is needed.

 

[blackbeltninja]

just like I didn't just make a kid starting to push another kid into the pool take a step back, I got him clear out of reach of his intended victim, and off his feet in case he decided to try a fight with a lifeguard.

How big, exactly, were these kids you did this almighty takedown on? Seems a little OTT, if I'm honest...

-d-

 

[Kulindahr]

How big, exactly, were these kids you did this almighty takedown on? Seems a little OTT, if I'm honest...

-d-

Smart-ass high schoolers. Little kids I just picked up and relocated -- when possible, to their parents.

They thought it was over the top, too, but when you have a pool and deck packed with mostly kids, we went for a no-nonsense environment.

One of my favorite moments was when one guy was almost in a fight on the ten-meter platform, and a fellow guard got in between him and his intended target, and said something like, "You want to push somebody? Go ahead!" And the guy fell for it, not realizing what was coming: he pushed, the guard grabbed, pulled, twisted, and they both hit the water with the guard in control, having implemented a control carry on the way down. For a while after that, the whole place was really well-behaved!

 

[pat grimshaw]

I called the lady to tell her that you said so. She paused for a moment, considered sitting at home worrrying 24/7, but then figured the State licensed her to drive, so it must be normally safe enough.

Oh, and then she said "fuck you!"….

Miss Revina Garcia obviously has issues with her anger as well as her glucose.

You could go visit and offer her some of your tea and sympathy. And remember to take some insulin with you when you don your fedora to visit—

 

[pat grimshaw]

And all the fans of the show COPS think that's the way cops are supposed to do it.

I watch that show. About 60% of times the police officers already know the person doing the misdemeanour because so many of them are people who repeat their illegal activity over and over again.

The policeman is paid to clean up the messes of all those Blanche du Bois's who rely on the kindness of strangers.

 

[peeonme]

First, the cop did not know if the man was armed, second as a cop it was his job to take control of the situation.
He did his job, if he has kicked or hit the man when he was subdued, then it would be excessive force.
The cop is a hero.