Breaking News >> DOMA Struck Down!

[RaKroma]

The Court only struck down section 3 which affects Federal Government and its definition of marriage. Section 2 which allows the states to not recognize SSM from other states is still a standing law. The pattern of the Court is similar in Prop 8 case. They did not strike down Prop 8 as to not "dictate" states on their law making process, but "cleverly" dismissed Prop 8 on technical reasons of finding that there is no Standing in Court for the proponents of Prop-8 that came out to defend it, since the proponents are not representatives of State of California Government. The DOMA case in silence allows states to define their marriage standards for now, but at the same time it says "you can't define marriage only between opposite sex as that's discriminatory." So only future will hold how State courts will decide to interpret the language in their state battles for equality.

 

[oakpope]

I wonder how long the stupidity of being married and un married will go on...
When in a state that recognizes same sex marriage, you're married, you take a step across the border to a state that doesn't, you're un married. You take a step back, you're married again...Doesn't make any sense.

Congratulations to the Americans ! A good day worthy of celebration (along side the failing of the abortion law in Texas).

 

[jdcnow]

(along side the failing of the abortion law in Texas).

Good god yes! And as a Texan jubber, Thank you! Texas is my home, but unfortunately it's being ran by nutjobs as well as mice (dirty rats is more like it!) who've been put in charge of the day-to-day operations of the cheese factory.

 

[80KGold]

I'm glad for this decision and precedent. I can't help thinking that this entire struggle is absurd, though. What I mean is that full civil rights for the citizens of a country--especially a country that portrays itself as a bastion of civil liberty--seem like a no-brainer to me. Duh.

Alas, I'm a Texan, and we have a long row to hoe down here. Hell, just yesterday because of a filibuster, we barely (and temporarily) escaped legislation that would've meant that most of the abortion clinics in the state would've closed. And the current administration is salivating now that the Civil Rights Act of 1965 has been gutted; they're already ready with new voting requirements! These motherfuckers want to abrogate civil rights (for the non-elite of us). Long row to hoe indeed...

But at least there is precedent now, so that when the battle for equal marriage rights becomes a war down here--and it will--we gay folks and our allies have a stocked armory.

My bad: I meant "Voting Rights Act of 1965."

 

[ibill1]

Congrats to all of us but we still have a long way to go. Texas scares the shit out of me. I can't believe the citizens of that state elect these idiots.

 

[ArseYouLikeIt]

5 - 4. Does anyone know how Chief Justice Roberts voted? Did he end up with the casting vote?

 

[LeicsDom]

Supposedly the "'Defense' Of Marriage Act". In plain English, it basically said that Marriage should only and exclusively be between one man and one woman, and that anything other than one-man/one-woman marriage isn't legal, and those couples are not legally entitled to the benefits that the US federal government gives to straight married couples - lower taxes, workplace-provided health insurance, spousal recognition over family, trumping family, in emergency medical situations, etc.

So, effectively, this has done what we Brits are trying to do with Same Sex Marriage legislation, except via different route?

 

[Axxess]

Can someone please interview Michele Bachmann? I want to get her angle on this.

5 - 4. Does anyone know how Chief Justice Roberts voted? Did he end up with the casting vote?

He dissented, along with the other conservatives on the court.

 

[darden]

So, effectively, this has done what we Brits are trying to do with Same Sex Marriage legislation, except via different route?

not entirely.

under the Defense of Marriage Act, gay couples were barred from obtaining federal marriage benefits even if they were married by a state where gay marriage was legal. this meant that they couldn't file joint tax returns, couldn't get spousal health insurance if they worked for the government, and couldn't apply for a spousal greencard if their partner wasn't a US citizen.

repealing this changes that, but gay marriage (for now) can still be banned in states and gays can still be blocked from receiving state marriage benefits if they chose to live in those states (that includes things like hospital visitation rights, health insurance if they work for a private company, and the like)

hopefully those state bans against gay marriage will be challenged as well, or gays can vote with their feet, take their tax dollars with them, and move.

 

[joshj50]

I have a question, I am a resident of Florida, if I go to Boston, marry there and then return to Florida with my new husband.

Will I be eligible for the Federal benefits, social security inheritance, file joint tax returns etc........

 

[jdcnow]

I have a question, I am a resident of Florida, if I go to Boston, marry there and then return to Florida with my new husband.

Will I be eligible for the Federal benefits, social security inheritance, file joint tax returns etc........

Yes. You will not be eligible for marriage benefits provided by The State Of Florida, because they're a constitutional ban state. But what I'm hearing right now on CBS News Radio is, yes indeed - you will be eligible to receive the FEDERAL-LEVEL benefits of marriage - those *aren't* provided by The State Of Florida, so since those specifically aren't Florida's to give you anyways, Florida (or any other constitutional ban state, for that matter) cannot stop The Federal Government from giving you those Federal Benefits.

 

[jdcnow]

Can someone please interview Michele Bachmann? I want to get her angle on this.

Well, you called it! And sure enough...

Michele Backwards >> DOMA, Propositon 8 Rulings 'Attacked Our Constitution'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...4640.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices&ir=Gay Voices

Marriage was created by the hand of God. No man, not even a Supreme Court, can undo what a holy God has instituted.
For thousands of years of recorded human history, no society has defended the legal standard of marriage as anything other than between man and woman. Only since 2000 have we seen a redefinition of this foundational unit of society in various nations.

Today, the U.S. Supreme Court decided to join the trend, despite the clear will of the people’s representatives through DOMA.

What the Court has done will undermine the best interest of children and the best interests of the United States.

Madam... Shut up.

 

[star-warrior]

I am so glad that right has been done! Congratulations folks, equality is real.

 

[swmjck]

Can someone please interview Michele Bachmann? I want to get her angle on this.




He dissented, along with the other conservatives on the court.

Her party along with FOX News must be apoplectic. Could be an interesting night to tune in to FOX and see what the crazies are saying about this.

 

[gsdx]

Michele Backwards >> DOMA, Propositon 8 Rulings 'Attacked Our Constitution'

 

[MTLDude]

Details to follow.

Form a Canadian to all my US friends: Welcome to 21st century!

 

[Telstra]

You guys can see who are still the enemy

 

[rareboy]

^ There was never any question.

Fuck 'em all.

 

[Telstra]

"god never judge before BUT now god will judge ..."

 

[eastofeden]

I love their criticism of the court. Had it gone the other way they would be praising and defending the Supreme Court.

On another note...when is Mr Bachman gonna come out of the closet? Can't wait to hear his beard's speech when THAT happens.