Bullfighting - what's your take on it?

[geloge]

I hate it. Happily there are less followers of that shit each day.

 

[FanofFiction]

I think it was Domingo Ortega who wrote:

Bullfight critics ranked in rows;
filled the enormous plaza full,
but only one is there who knows;
and he's the man who fights the bull.

If bullfighting is unfair, it's unfair for the poor sap standing there with a sword and cape. The bull is a huge and powerful beast with horns on his head. I'm not all for bullfighting, it doesn't interest me. But I'm not about to protest it over animal rights.

 

[geloge]

I think it was Domingo Ortega who wrote:

Bullfight critics ranked in rows;
filled the enormous plaza full,
but only one is there who knows;
and he's the man who fights the bull.

If bullfighting is unfair, it's unfair for the poor sap standing there with a sword and cape. The bull is a huge and powerful beast with horns on his head. I'm not all for bullfighting, it doesn't interest me. But I'm not about to protest it over animal rights.

Do you know that before the bullfighter acts they make the bull bleed to make him weak?

 

[Sam Blum]

I think it was Domingo Ortega who wrote:

Bullfight critics ranked in rows;
filled the enormous plaza full,
but only one is there who knows;
and he's the man who fights the bull.

If bullfighting is unfair, it's unfair for the poor sap standing there with a sword and cape. The bull is a huge and powerful beast with horns on his head. I'm not all for bullfighting, it doesn't interest me. But I'm not about to protest it over animal rights.

Oh dear, the "poor sap" who chooses to stand in the ring is by no means the only one to understand the fight or the balance of power in that arena. And how convenient that you ignore the picadors and their horses. Do their horses choose this activity? No! And coming from a family who bred horses I can tell you that the only reason a horse allows people near it is because of trust, a trust that is extraordinarily abused in this context.

As for the brawn of the bull, it has already been shown by the fact that people exist to a value of around 7 billion or more that our abilities to plan, watch and hypothesize combined with our weapons are more than a match for any other macro animal on this world. Repeating the 'experiment' testing the ability of people to kill any other beast in such a weighted environment is hardly sporting, courageous or something to be unmoved by. Firstly, the animal is bred to a heightened instinct to fight, then treated in a manner that it becomes fearful and violently anxious, then it is speared repeatedly before being taunted remorselessly by a fuckwit hiding a sword.

The ONLY thing that we can't ignore in any of this is the fact that the men wear incredibly sexy clothing, even if they are stupid and cruel. Of course, fortunately, there are many sexy men who don't slowly torture animals to death.

It's bizarre that psychologists recognise the desire to and act of torturing animals as being one of the indicators of socio/psychopathic disorders, yet there are those who are apathetic, or even worse feel agreeable with this abhorrent inhumanity.

 

[chatolandia]

I think is a dying tradition

and I am glad is dying

 

[RoadBike]

Being a vegetarian, I'm not fond of the idea of bullfighting. At least at a rodeo, the bulls are merely ridden, not killed. I'd be curious to know if the bull is used for food once it's killed. It's sad to me that humans today would delight in watching the bull being tormented knowing the ultimate outcome. It smacks of the days of the Roman Empire when Christians were thrown into the arena and the spectators would watch the lions devour them. Barbaric! I travel to Mexico a few times every year and have passed by bullfighting arenas. It's part of their culture that came from Spain. Personally, I'll pass on the bullfights.

 

[frankfrank]

VILE.

But as far as killing animals for meat and such, WE are animals as well. We're part of the "animal kingdom." Our killing of animals for food is an indelible part of nature; the entire food chain is based on it, and it's not just animals but organisms of all types. All animals require that their food sources come from other organisms, which they must kill, or they must find a carcass as a food source.

The "carcass" can be dead overlaid decomposing plant material which is food for a mushroom, for example.

Nearly everything in nature has a predator. In the case of humans, our predators are mostly very tiny organisms which cannot be seen without powerful microscopes.

When something in nature has no predators at all (including the microscopic ones), the populations often grow out of control. (A space alien, looking at yet-untouched areas of The Amazon, would possibly think that TREES have grown out of control, and I guess that could be "argued" as they'll take over almost everything if humans were to disappear, but trees have the unusual characteristic of providing homes, shelter, and food for plenty of other organisms, and they make the ecosystem vital and diverse.)

Think of kudzu plants in the Deep South U.S., or mice in Australia, or very recently the Asian spotted beetles which look like ladybugs, for examples of things that are out of control.

I had an invasion of probably thirty to forty thousand of the spotted beetles last fall and winter.

 

[FanofFiction]

The kind of stupidity two university degrees breeds? Whatever my dears. You asked for an opinion and I gave an educated one. If you don't like it, that's too bad.

I'm not a bleeding heart that gets all emotional over animal rights. I did when I was a teenager, but it's very hypocritical. We all eat processed meats from 'tortured animals', we all wear footwear and belts made from 'tortured animals', and FYI- the gay communities' supercharged consumption of leather products and lubricants made from animal byproducts puts us in league with the worst animal rights' violators.

Certainly, if we can torture and maim a couple of cows to fuck our boyfriends in a leather sling with a leather hood, or whatever you are into... we can permit a country to maintain it's unique culture. I can only imagine what we would say if animal rights groups attacked a pride parade for our excessive use of leather extraction.

 

[geloge]

The kind of stupidity two university degrees breeds? Whatever my dears. You asked for an opinion and I gave an educated one. If you don't like it, that's too bad.

I'm not a bleeding heart that gets all emotional over animal rights. I did when I was a teenager, but it's very hypocritical. We all eat processed meats from 'tortured animals', we all wear footwear and belts made from 'tortured animals', and FYI- the gay communities' supercharged consumption of leather products and lubricants made from animal byproducts puts us in league with the worst animal rights' violators.

Certainly, if we can torture and maim a couple of cows to fuck our boyfriends in a leather sling with a leather hood, or whatever you are into... we can permit a country to maintain it's unique culture. I can only imagine what we would say if animal rights groups attacked a pride parade for our excessive use of leather extraction.

I'm not condoning the alimentary industry, I would like it to change, but it's different. Not everyone can afford the ecological food prices. Changing the way we product meat could lead to a alimentary crisis.

We are talking about watching how a group of persons (not only the matador) tortures a bull. For me is sick. I can't watch a bull fight.

BTW, I think most of leather come from cows killed for food.

 

[FanofFiction]

**chuckles** Bullfighting was covered in my undergrad... so that would likely mean I do in fact have an educated opinion. That said, I do agree that university education doesn't not give me prudence to comment on everything with an 'educated' opinion. Please note; I am not commenting on economics, advanced mathematics, and a vast array of other fields. Thank you for jumping to a conclusion before asking IF I had any background formal study on the subject.