Bush orders; Get Osama Bin Laden

[greydog]

June 15, 2008

President George W Bush has enlisted British special forces in a final attempt to capture Osama Bin Laden before he leaves the White House.

Intelligence on the whereabouts of Bin Laden is sketchy, but some analysts believe he is in the Bajaur tribal zone in northwest Pakistan. He has evaded capture for nearly seven years. “Bush is swinging for the fences in the hope of scoring a home run,” said an intelligence source, using a baseball metaphor.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article4138791.ece

 

[Croynan]

let dick cheney go searching for him - the fucking war was his idea along with Rumsfeld.

eM.

 

[White Eagle]

It's just like the bastard to wait til he is almost out of office to make an effort to capture him. Why couldn't he have tried this years ago instead of invading a country that posed no threat to us.

 

[kallipolis]

Behind every Bush, you'll find a Bin Laden.

 

[White Eagle]

I certainly hope this is sarcasm!!!

 

[White Eagle]

I certainly hope this is sarcasm!!!

This most certainly is NOT sarcasm.

 

[kallipolis]

There is much circumstantial evidence to indicate that Bin Laden was killed some time back. Unfortunately the world needs a body to substantiate such a claim. Without a corpse Bin Laden still strikes fear into the hearts of the human race.

I quote the following opinion:

27 December 2007
Benazir Bhutto said Osama bin Laden was dead

And right on cue, shortly after former Pakistani premier Bhutto's own slaying, two key al-Qaeda news items appear. First, "senior US officials" are checking into an al-Qaeda claim of responsibility for the assassination, and—lo and behold—"Osama" himself will soon release a message regarding Iraq.

Bhutto asserted to David Frost less than two months ago that bin Laden had been murdered by Omar Sheikh, whom the Sunday Times once described as "no ordinary terrorist but a man who has connections that reach high into Pakistan's military and intelligence elite and into the innermost circles" of bin Laden and al-Qaeda.

 

[opinterph]

Bhutto asserted to David Frost … that bin Laden had been murdered by Omar Sheikh,

I think this assertion has been previously debunked.

The controversial remark comes from a interview by Benazir Bhutto shortly after the 6-minute mark in this video (November 2, 2007):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ​

But then she said in an interview the following day:

I don't think General Musharraf personally knows where Osama bin Laden is …[Link]

And there are other statements from earlier in the year that tend to refute her apparent misstatement on November 2 …

June 2007:

Bhutto accused [Pakistan’s President Pervez Musharraf] of not coming down harshly on Taliban or making serious efforts to apprehend Osama bin Laden. [Link]

September 2007:

I would hope that I would be able to take Osama bin Laden myself without depending on the Americans," Bhutto [said] ... "But if I couldn't do it, of course we are fighting this war together and would seek their cooperation in eliminating him." [Link]

 

[Chalchalero]

I think this assertion has been previously debunked.

The controversial remark comes from a interview by Benazir Bhutto shortly after the 6-minute mark in this video (November 2, 2007):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ​

But then she said in an interview the following day:


And there are other statements from earlier in the year that tend to refute her apparent misstatement on November 2 …

June 2007:


September 2007:

Perhaps the November remark was made after having obtained information she did not have in June or September.

 

[kallipolis]

Thanks, for the advices.

I rather suspect that Benazir Bhutto's after thought was generated by certain quarters, which depend upon the living reality of Bin Laden to justify the presence of such a large Western military force in Afghanistan. Without a bogey man to hunt down, the occupation appears rather less than justifiable.

I appreciate that it is very much a guessing game, depending upon where your interest is being served.

 

[Chalchalero]

Thanks, for the advices.

I rather suspect that Benazir Bhutto's after thought was generated by certain quarters, which depend upon the living reality of Bin Laden to justify the presence of such a large Western military force in Afghanistan. Without a bogey man to hunt down, the occupation appears rather less than justifiable.

I appreciate that it is very much a guessing game, depending upon where your interest is being served.

I completely agree. Musharraf's decision to ally with the Americans against the Taliban and al Qa'ida already made him a marked man among the extremists in his country. The only reason the security apparatus in Pakistan continues to support him is because they fear the US more than bin Laden. This does not mean, however, that they have any intention of either killing or capturing him, however, but they must continue to make it appear that way.

I believe that they will wait until Bush is out of office and there is a new government in Pakistan (which there will have to be soon.) Then we will finally see the true colours of the ISI and their cohorts.

This is not over yet by any means, whether bin Laden is dead or alive. There are too many people in Pakistan and Afghanistan who have too much vested in the radical extremist agenda for it to ever fully disappear.

That is what I believe anyway.

 

[MystikWizard]

Keeping Bin Laden alive was all part of Bush's strategy of keeping an "enemy" out there to maintain the "fear factor" amongst the American public. Now that his term is coming to an end, I suppose he figures he doesn't need Bin Laden anymore, since the public isn't really living in a state of fear anymore. That way, he can go out a "hero". What a disgusting act. Why, all of a sudden, is this so important to do now, as opposed to back in 2001, 2002, 2003, or Hell even 2004? It takes 7 years for Bush to get motivated to go find Bin Laden again, only because his final term is coming to an end??? Give me a break.

 

[Chalchalero]

Keeping Bin Laden alive was all part of Bush's strategy of keeping an "enemy" out there to maintain the "fear factor" amongst the American public. Now that his term is coming to an end, I suppose he figures he doesn't need Bin Laden anymore, since the public isn't really living in a state of fear anymore. That way, he can go out a "hero". What a disgusting act. Why, all of a sudden, is this so important to do now, as opposed to back in 2001, 2002, 2003, or Hell even 2004? It takes 7 years for Bush to get motivated to go find Bin Laden again, only because his final term is coming to an end??? Give me a break.

After the American military's recent disastrous raid on the Pakistan/Afghanistan border, I do not believe that the ISI or the Pakistani military are going to be in any hurry to assist him in his attempt at shoring up a "legacy". I believe it is very telling that he turned to British Special Forces to do his dirty work, as he knows the Pakistanis will resent any more American blundering about and murdering their civilians. Once a week is enough for these guys, you know?

 

[Yuki Sohma]

Bush orders; Get Osama Bin Laden

-U- -C- now this is where I get so cofused.................I thought this what we (yes we, I am an American citizen) been doing since 9-11.................sorry gang, I truly do not understand.................I know you some of -U- wyll tell a me about international relations with Islamic nations (tell away).................like I said I don't understand.................

 

[MystikWizard]

I think this assertion has been previously debunked.

The controversial remark comes from a interview by Benazir Bhutto shortly after the 6-minute mark in this video (November 2, 2007):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ​

But then she said in an interview the following day:


And there are other statements from earlier in the year that tend to refute her apparent misstatement on November 2 …

June 2007:


September 2007:

Thanks for posting these links to the other instances, debunking this. You have to wonder how she could make such a huge gaffe like that and not catch herself. Same with Frost, although we can assume Frost simply wasn't paying attention, which is extremely embarrassing of him.

 

[MystikWizard]

One day Benazir Bhutto will admit it is all a lie.

I'm not sure how that is possible, unless you believe in reincarnation.

 

[Croynan]

Greydog is trying to be funny. The entire thread is mocking him.

Please learn to read.

one might add, please learn not to be so rude - that's one of the reasons we have been losing members around here. common decency really does work well.

pax

eM.

 

[Chalchalero]

[/COLOR][/B]one might add, please learn not to be so rude - that's one of the reasons we have been losing members around here. common decency really does work well.

pax

eM.

Well said...

 

[springboksfan]

Keeping Bin Laden alive was all part of Bush's strategy of keeping an "enemy" out there to maintain the "fear factor" amongst the American public. Now that his term is coming to an end, I suppose he figures he doesn't need Bin Laden anymore, since the public isn't really living in a state of fear anymore. That way, he can go out a "hero". What a disgusting act. Why, all of a sudden, is this so important to do now, as opposed to back in 2001, 2002, 2003, or Hell even 2004? It takes 7 years for Bush to get motivated to go find Bin Laden again, only because his final term is coming to an end??? Give me a break.

I couldn't agree with you more, Midnight.

 

[greydog]

Greydog is trying to be funny. The entire thread is mocking him.

Please learn to read.

Your are wrong...... I was absolutely not being "funny".
It is a direct quote from ..Times on Line.