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CA Prop 8 - news and alerts [updated & merged]

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Re: CA Prop 8-Gay Marriage Ban - news and alerts

^^^I don't know about that survey. The 44% has been really solid for the opposition side, so it just seems like to me that more people being polled are simply "undecided".
 
Re: CA Prop 8-Gay Marriage Ban - news and alerts

I went to Los Angeles today (farmers market/the grove) and I saw A LOT of no on prop 8 signs in the heavily jewish areas. Many of the windows in the businesses had no on prop 8 signs.

I saw a couple yes on 8 signs and they tend to be very poor people. It almost seems like the more poor the are, the more support there is for prop 8. Areas where people are better educated have more no on prop 8 support. I have been told that there are a lot of yes on prop 8 signs in san bernardino county. We don't do as well in republican areas, mormon areas, and poor areas.

I think that it is easier for people to get the yes on 8 signs because they are given out for free. The no on 8 signs, as far as I know, are all purchased. I have been told that many churches have distributed the yes on 8 signs.

So the number of signs on both sides are not really a very good indication of how voters will vote. Many of these poor people have english as a second language and I do wonder if they even vote because some of them probably only have green cards.

We sure are playing a lot of commercials right now. Way more than the prop 8 people. I'm not sure what is going on there. It makes me wonder if the other side is planning some huge thing at the very end. We know they have the money.
 
Re: CA Prop 8-Gay Marriage Ban - news and alerts

I can't access the noonprop8 site :confused:
 
Re: CA Prop 8-Gay Marriage Ban - news and alerts

I can't access the noonprop8 site :confused:




hmmm...I can't either. It had been attacked earlier last week and it may be the case again this evening. They reported it to the FBI the first time. If it is them again, I hope they get them. The prop 8 people have done every dirty dishonest trick that they could think of.
 
Re: CA Prop 8-Gay Marriage Ban - news and alerts

I saw a couple yes on 8 signs and they tend to be very poor people. It almost seems like the more poor the are, the more support there is for prop 8. Areas where people are better educated have more no on prop 8 support. I have been told that there are a lot of yes on prop 8 signs in san bernardino county. We don't do as well in republican areas, mormon areas, and poor areas.

I think that it is easier for people to get the yes on 8 signs because they are given out for free. The no on 8 signs, as far as I know, are all purchased. I have been told that many churches have distributed the yes on 8 signs.

No on 8 signs are given out for free, they merely ask for a donation if you can afford it.

I live in a rather rich area, La Canada Flintridge, which is a suburb in North East Los Angeles. Lots of prop 8 signs up here, so one's position on the social ladder doesn't have much to do with it, in my opinion.
 
Re: CA Prop 8-Gay Marriage Ban - news and alerts

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I did not know that they could just be picked up like that. I think that it has been easier for the yes on 8 people to pick up their signs. The churches distributing them give them a lot more locations to pick them up and tell their congregations when they can pick them up.

I bought all of mine.

La Canada Flintridge is a very expensive area. Are there a lot of mormons in that area? La Canada would still fall within the heavily Republican area on my above list.
 
Re: CA Prop 8-Gay Marriage Ban - news and alerts

i was driving up sunrise blvd in sacramento this afternoon there were dozens and dozens of little groups all along sunrise with "yes on 8" signs along both sides of the street. it was particularly heavy near sunrise mall where there people in cars with the signs plastered all over their windows, i saw several cars that were detailed with "yes on 8" on the sides. there were hundreds of signs put in the median all along sunrise from Hwy 50 all the way up to Greenback (a distance of about 5) miles. i only saw a few "no on 8" folks out there. it was quite depressing.
 
Re: CA Prop 8-Gay Marriage Ban - news and alerts

I have a legal question to those who know about this things.

Prop 8 started cuz of a Petition of a number of citizens, so if this awful things does pass, why don't an equal or larger number of citizens make a petition (to vote in the next elections) to overrule it?

Sorry for asking so much, but I'm really interested in this whole thing

PS: All the luck in the World guys (*8*)
 
Re: CA Prop 8-Gay Marriage Ban - news and alerts

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actually, most of the signatures were gathered by people paid to get signatures. They spent more than a million dollars to get the signatures. If we do lose, which I hope that we don't, we will not stop fighting for equality...EVER....I still have hope that 8 will fail. It is going to be close.
 
Re: CA Prop 8-Gay Marriage Ban - news and alerts

There are more signs from both sides everywhere. The Yes on 8 people are putting them anywhere they can. I have even seen them on the actual freeway 57 North, Covina Blvd exit.


I have also seen more No on 8 signs right next to the Yes on 8 signs.

I have also been told that there are new No On Prop 8 signs in San Bernardino County.


It is the war of the signs right now. And there are a lot of No On Prop 8 radio commercials right now as well.

I really hate those yes on prop 8 signs. I will not touch them. But to me, they are signs that say I hate you because you are gay.

I have heard that people are wanting the No On Prop 8 signs but have been having trouble finding them.
 
Re: CA Prop 8-Gay Marriage Ban - news and alerts

We are seeing so much support in so many directions, it is getting difficult to keep up with this. BTW, Proposition 8 is the most expensive proposition in the history of California, with it costing over $60 million.


http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/sunday/commentary/la-oe-howard1-2008nov01,0,299174.story

Ann Landers - No To Prop 8


Here is part of the story

My one wish about both these events is that my late mother, Ann Landers, was still here so that I could talk to her about them. The old girl would have been thrilled because she really was what Time magazine called her in its obituary: "the stealth subversive."

It was she, the trusted friend welcomed daily into tens of millions of middle-class homes, who from early on fought for gay rights. She said homosexuality was not an illness or an aberration or that looniest of definitions, "an alternative lifestyle choice." Rather, she was convinced homosexuality was determined by genetics and dead certain that people were hard-wired in their sexuality. And to those straight people who believed that homosexuals could be "brought around," she always suggested that they give it a go being gay. She put her not inconsiderable clout behind the (ultimately successful) effort to get homosexuality removed from the official diagnostic manual as an "illness."

While I seldom try to speak for her, I know for a certainty that she would have encouraged all the people who ever wrote to her looking for guidance to vote no on Proposition 8. I know this because she was all about equality, dignity and rights. While she would have respected those who took the Bible literally, she also would have invited them to live according to their principles, and allow others to do the same. So if, per chance, before you vote you might wonder what your old friend Ann Landers would advise, remember her lifelong devotion to fairness, open-mindedness and love.
 
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