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Canada's Gay Marriages are safe!

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Canada has spoken:

Prime Minister Stephen Harper said he will respect today's 175-123 vote against revisiting debate on same-sex marriage, and considers the matter closed.

MPs voted 175-123 on Thursday against a Conservative motion calling for the government to introduce legislation restoring the traditional definition of marriage.

"We made a promise to have a free vote on this issue, we kept that promise, and obviously the vote was decisive and obviously we'll accept the democratic result of the people's representatives," said Harper. "I don't see reopening this question in the future."

Conservative House Leader Rob Nicholson said he was disappointed with the result of the vote, but that it was still a healthy exercise in democracy.

"I support the traditional definition of marriage and I always have," he said.

He also said the government has "no plans" to introduce a defence of religions act, to protect religious institutions from being forced to marry same-sex couples.

Critics say such an act would be redundant since those rights are already protected under the Charter of Rights of Freedoms.

New Democratic MP Bill Siksay told CTV's Mike Duffy Live he's glad the debate is finally over.

"As a gay man, I'm getting tired of constantly having to debate whether or not I'm an equal participant in Canadian society," he said.

"This debate has lasted 32 years, when you consider the first time a gay couple tried to get a marriage license in Canada. That's a long time to be working on this."

Most Tories voted in favour of Thursday's motion, along with 13 Liberals. Another 13 Conservatives voted against it, joining all present NDP and Bloc Quebecois MPs, and the majority of Liberals.

Conservatives who opposed the motion included Foreign Affairs Minister Peter MacKay, Indian Affairs Minister Jim Prentice and James Moore.

Liberals who voted in favour of the motion included Dan McTeague and John McKay, who had urged Liberal Leader Stephane Dion to allow a free vote.

The Conservative government motion called on the government ''to introduce legislation to restore the traditional definition of marriage without affecting civil unions and while respecting existing same-sex marriages.''

Canada was the fourth country, after the Netherlands, Belgium and Spain, to legalize homosexual marriage.

In 2005, MPs passed a law legalizing same-sex unions in the wake of court rulings that said barring gay couples from marriage was unconstitutional.

More than 12,000 gay couples across Canada have already wed.

The vote was held one day after MPs debated the divisive motion late into the night.

Nicholson launched Wednesday's debate in defence of his government's position.

"This is completely consistent with what we told the Canadian people we would do," he said. "We're fulfilling that promise."

Former Liberal cabinet minister Bill Graham dismissed the motion as a shoddy ''smoke screen" meant to sow political division.

''It's a manoeuvre designed to divide the House and the nation on an issue that's been decided.''

Graham said the only way for the government to restore the traditional definition is to use the Constitution's notwithstanding clause, which allows governments to override the Charter. Harper has said he would not do that.

Both Harper and Dion had said they would allow their MPs to vote their conscience.

Dion didn't support reopening the divisive debate, but he was concerned that imposing party discipline would hand the Conservatives more leverage on the issue.

A handful of Liberal MPs support revisiting the same-sex issue, and would have had to be disciplined if they acted out of step with a whipped vote.

But Dion made it clear that if the motion had gone directly to strike down same-sex marriage, he would have whipped the caucus because the unions are protected by the Charter of Rights.

Last year, 32 Liberal MPs voted against the same-sex marriage law.

http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/To...07&feedname=CTV-TOPSTORIES_V2&showbyline=True

From the CBC News Website (Not the comment at the bottom of the page):

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/12/07/vote-samesex.html
 
Great news for our Canadian neighbours - now if such tolerance and understanding could be exported down here please......
 
Something tells me, dear friend, that we'll be waiting quite a bit longer for that down here.

because fear and hatred are better motivators at the polling stations than logic and thoughtful debate?

alas, you are correct
 
I followed it this afternoon. Everyone said that gay marriage would be safe, but you never know..........

Anyhow, the fundies have taken it on the chin as of late

...Ted and his Haggered "dark place"

...Mary gets with child

...Canadiens vote to protect the sanctity of gay marriage

Yup, it looks like Christmas came early this year.
 
I also am very proud to be a Canadian; maybe this week a little more than usual....although I felt pretty good when we didn't follow like lambs to slaughter in Iraq, preferring to put ourselves on the frontline in Afghanistan where there is a struggle to keep a nation free from atavistic

Anyhow, hopefully this will put to rest any nonsense about overturning this legislation and we all will go about our business respecting others rights to disagree but not letting fundamentalists dictate our rights.

At least you have Massachusetts in the US; you can always have a nice wedding in the Berkshires.
 
It's interesting how opinions in this country have changed over the past 18 months. My brother, who claims to be such a conservative, actually said to me he has no problem with gay marriage now. As he said, "the day after it became law in Jun 1995 the sun came up as it always does..."

I'm very proud to be Canadian today and always
 
let's face it.. us Canadians rock.

What I think is funny is that even Canadian Conservatives (for the most part) support gay marriage. They do this because they think EVERYONE should be married.

And besides, when two gay mounties get married, as a Canadian how can you not support THAT?
 
It's nice to know that the marriage of me and flash can continue to destroy traditional marriages.:D
 
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