Catholic school forced out two gay teachers for getting engaged

[luckynumbah7]

I suspect that many gay priests stay because they don't know how to do anything else. It's like being trapped in a loveless marriage but going along with it anyway to keep a roof over your head.

You can observe this phenomenon in other types of professions and other types of people. Surveys show over and over that most people aren't happy with the jobs they are in. Why don't they pursue something that will make them happier?

This affects many aspects of life. And we all observe it at one point or another. There was a young couple that approached us for help because they wanted to house hack. They've known several other couples who house hack and they like the idea a lot. Basically speaking, they would buy a duplex, live in one side and let the tenants in the other side pay for the mortgage. Many people do this and it is a proven strategy to getting into the investment market. We worked with them for months and finally found a duplex that was perfect. The space was ready to move in. Had a fenced in backyard for their dog. Fits perfectly inside their budget. In a desirable area. All the checkmarks were there. Then all of a sudden they abandoned that idea and bought a single family house. Personally, I didn't care what they did. Wasn't my life. I was, however, curious why after months of talking about it and investing time and money into the idea of house hacking they abandoned it so easily?

They finally admitted to us that they weren't ready emotionally to do something so alien. The traditional American way is buy a single family house and spend the next 20-30 years working and paying off the mortgage. Most people are simply not emotionally ready to do something outside of their comfort zone. I'm not saying this as a put down. I'm saying this as a matter of fact.

Your gay priest friends probably don't want to be priests anymore. But quitting it is a major life changing event that they are probably not emotionally ready for.

So, don't be too hard on them.

I'm almost certain one isn't supposed to consider their own religious beliefs akin to doin' a nine-to-five - I'm also certain that for such a calling a personal relationship with whatever diety one chooses is unlikely to be considered loveless, despite the relative lack of sex.

 

[luckynumbah7]

I'm almost certain one isn't supposed to consider their own religious beliefs akin to doin' a nine-to-five - I'm also certain that for such a calling a personal relationship with whatever diety one chooses is unlikely to be considered loveless, despite the relative lack of sex.

I mean, I'm not religious but to start with I'd think the amount of time is a off. A nine hour workday is nothing compared to total immersion in a system of belief based on faith. No one asks ya to take your job on faith and I don't imagine that ends at clockout when night arrives because priests, ect ect don't have an end to that particular 'workday'. If someone is under the impression belief is a nine-to-five of *course* they're gonna be miserable. But I've never, ever seen the priesthood (or nuns, come to that) compared to a day job before, so..... this is a new one.

Pro-tip; if anyone considers religious submission akin to a day job, it ain't for you.

 

[LeicsDom]

I suspect that many gay priests stay because they don't know how to do anything else. It's like being trapped in a loveless marriage but going along with it anyway to keep a roof over your head.

I think you are right
Many priests go into the church to run away from something, their sexuality, responsibility, a failed relationship. Vocation is rarely the real reason

 

[Dominus]

I mean, I'm not religious but to start with I'd think the amount of time is a off. A nine hour workday is nothing compared to total immersion in a system of belief based on faith. No one asks ya to take your job on faith and I don't imagine that ends at clockout when night arrives because priests, ect ect don't have an end to that particular 'workday'. If someone is under the impression belief is a nine-to-five of *course* they're gonna be miserable. But I've never, ever seen the priesthood (or nuns, come to that) compared to a day job before, so..... this is a new one.

Pro-tip; if anyone considers religious submission akin to a day job, it ain't for you.

Looking at it objectively, it's a job. If you need any further convincing, imagine yourself a priest and then imagine yourself quitting the priesthood and walk away from the institution. What's that? You have to get a job now in order to have shelter and food? Who would have thunk?

Sure, they entered the priesthood probably because of some kind of calling. But don't be naive enough to think once in they can walk away from it just like that. Basic necessities like food and shelter becomes a real concern once you don't have any.

 

[luckynumbah7]

Looking at it objectively, it's a job. If you need any further convincing, imagine yourself a priest and then imagine yourself quitting the priesthood and walk away from the institution. What's that? You have to get a job now in order to have shelter and food? Who would have thunk?

Sure, they entered the priesthood probably because of some kind of calling. But don't be naive enough to think once in they can walk away from it just like that. Basic necessities like food and shelter becomes a real concern once you don't have any.

What makes you think you're looking at it objectively?

Random Priest clearly didn't have the Church's food and shelter before they joined and I doubt the food/shelter/stipend for Joe Clerical Collar is abundant enough to stay should one's own faith fail. That's part of the point of asceticism - the draw is, shall we say ....lacking.

....exactly how lazy do you think people are? This seems like an issue of assumed laziness to me.

 

[Dominus]

What makes you think you're looking at it objectively?

Random Priest clearly didn't have the Church's food and shelter before they joined and I doubt the food/shelter/stipend for Joe Clerical Collar is abundant enough to stay should one's own faith fail. That's part of the point of asceticism - the draw is, shall we say ....lacking.

....exactly how lazy do you think people are? This seems like an issue of assumed laziness to me.

Well, I didn't make the claim that the stipen for priests is abundant. It is just enough to keep them going.

Trust me, some people will do everything they can to keep themselves back so they can continue to receive barely enough subsistence.

 

[nycguydowntown]

I was making out with a super hot guy in a car while on vacation in Puerto Rico several years ago---I asked him his name lol--and then what do you do? He said he was a Jesuit priest. Having gone to Catholic school was freaked out and turned on. We spent time talking and he told me the pedo priests know what orders to join and Jesuit is not one of them but Franciscans is ----- the whole church is still a mess and priests need to get married and have relationships and live normal lives helping people.

 

[sixthson]

the whole church is still a mess and priests need to get married and have relationships and live normal lives helping people.

It's a common misconception that marriage will cure pedophilia. It won't. These predator priests are not interested in sex with adults, no matter what their sexuality. They have a perversion.

 

[Kahaih]

Religious schools are just antisocial, anti-establishment, lunatic, separatist homeschoolers on a much larger scale.

 

[LeicsDom]

It's a common misconception that marriage will cure pedophilia. It won't. These predator priests are not interested in sex with adults, no matter what their sexuality. They have a perversion.

Most pedophiles are in it for control, not sexual satisfaction
Same with violent rapists

 

[NotHardUp1]

Most pedophiles are in it for control, not sexual satisfaction.

That seems so bizarre.

Adults are already in control of children.

 

[FPNY]

There are religions that make being gay a tad easier than the Romans do.. many romans are now Episcopals, Presbos etc.. there are alternatives for those with the “calling”. I don’t give much credence that there is no place for priests to practice their voodoo. Many went to Rome because they could hide their gayness behind the celibacy rules. No one asked when are you marrying etc.. it doesn’t work anymore.

 

[LeicsDom]

That seems so bizarre.

Adults are already in control of children.

I know. But for some perverted people that is not enough
Remember a few years ago there was a semi famous musician in Wales who coerced women into abusing their babies for his gratification? That was purely about control