caught my boyfreind with our best gal pal

[Bladerunner1811]

NOBODY expects you to go straight. That is IN NO WAY the point here. The point is there are three separate people here, with their own separate feelings, INCLUDING one girl. It's about questions it seems you haven't even thought to ask yourself. You are ok with her developing feelings you expect not to reciprocate? You're ok with a course of action that would in fact actively lead her on to those feelings? You are ok with having a child out of a loveless relationship and raise it in that loveless relationship?

No need to answer ME, just make sure you have the answers to yourself.

Hey she wants to keep it strictly sex based..soooo thats what we are doing!

One of our freinds thats also gay seems to think that just sex wise my bf and i are setting ourself up seeing as 2 years from now her jobs going to relocate her to L.A.,and by that time to quote him:

"You guys are going to be so mentally and physically conditioned to banging your fag-hag,that when she does relocate no matter how much sex you two have your not going to be fully satisfied because gay though you guys are you'll need a fag-hag to feel fully satisfied sexually,and thats gonna lead to risky behavior just to get a fag-hag because you guys are sex addicts and you'll end up addicted to needing a fag-hag".

I basically told him he was full of it.

 

[Rolyo85]

Well, personally, I think you're all full of it. Either none of you is mature enough to realize that a relationship where there are ANY feelings (which I am assuming at least you have for your bf, or him for you, or preferably both) can NEVER be strictly sexual. OR you are aware of it and just ignoring it.

You have to ask yourself - WHY is this happening? Do YOU want to be having sex with a girl? Does it give you anything more than sex with your bf does? What about him? Does he need this? And what about HER - is she seriously unable to get straight dick that she has to go for the gay one (two)?

 

[TX-Beau]

OK, let me see if I have this correct. Your BF texts you to come home because he’s banging your best fag hag up the ass and wants you to be part of it.

Drama ensues. You agree to this situation continuing provided that the fag hag in question is the only girl who’s taking in up the ass (and presumably in the mouth,) while also agreeing to get her off each and every time with the explicit proviso that no one has to go near the kitty (because – ya know, the twat is icky presumably.)

This situation you’re OK with and your BF is OK with, but now your gay friends are telling you that if you continue to have the butt sex with a chick you will then be unable to have regular gay sex again.

I was with ya up until that last part. Now god knows that there are women out there with issues, and god knows there are gay men out there with issues. But rarely do the two come together in such a curious fashion. I definitely have never known a woman who was willing to have butt sex and suck off a couple of gay men who were contractually exempt from having to do anything for her.

What you’re basically describing is a situation where you have some kind of ersatz heterosexual relationship where you do not in fact have to be heterosexual. Meanwhile your friends are terribly afraid this will somehow cure you.

What’s going on? Because curious is probably not a strong enough word to describe your story.

 

[Bladerunner1811]

Well, personally, I think you're all full of it. Either none of you is mature enough to realize that a relationship where there are ANY feelings (which I am assuming at least you have for your bf, or him for you, or preferably both) can NEVER be strictly sexual. OR you are aware of it and just ignoring it.


(i'll start with his my bf and I have feelings for each other.She wants it strictly sexual between him and her,and her and I)

You have to ask yourself - WHY is this happening?

(honestly my bf and I don't know other then she's sexually atracted to non-straight guys)


Do YOU want to be having sex with a girl? ( well i'l admit it was exciting and once we got started we couldn't stop,even when someone rang the doorbell we just couldn't stop,i think we did her more then each other)

Does it give you anything more than sex with your bf does? What about him?

(These two can be answered together we both had to admit that even though we did eachother cumming when fucking each other was not near as intense as with her.with her it was so intense it hurt)

Does he need this? (well the entire time he was raving about how awesome fag-hag sex was,and how he loved it....and well i have to admdit i was too)



And what about HER - is she seriously unable to get straight dick that she has to go for the gay one (two)?( She only wants non-straight dick)

 

[Bladerunner1811]

OK, let me see if I have this correct. Your BF texts you to come home because he’s banging your best fag hag up the ass and wants you to be part of it.


(yes you have it correct)

Drama ensues. You agree to this situation continuing provided that the fag hag in question is the only girl who’s taking in up the ass (and presumably in the mouth,) while also agreeing to get her off each and every time with the explicit proviso that no one has to go near the kitty (because – ya know, the twat is icky presumably.)

Basically your corect she uses her handy dandy vibrator for that part on her)

This situation you’re OK with and your BF is OK with, but now your gay friends are telling you that if you continue to have the butt sex with a chick you will then be unable to have regular gay sex again.

(yes thats what he has said,but then he flips out over everything,and blows it up beyond what it really is)

I was with ya up until that last part. Now god knows that there are women out there with issues, and god knows there are gay men out there with issues. But rarely do the two come together in such a curious fashion. I definitely have never known a woman who was willing to have butt sex and suck off a couple of gay men who were contractually exempt from having to do anything for her.


( yes it's unusually I know)

What you’re basically describing is a situation where you have some kind of ersatz heterosexual relationship where you do not in fact have to be heterosexual.

(now that you meantion it I guess it could be seen lin that light)

Meanwhile your friends are terribly afraid this will somehow cure you.

(well this is freinds who blow things out of proportion too)

What’s going on?

(it;s hard to explain other then pure freakiness i guess)



Because curious is probably not a strong enough word to describe your story.

 

[Bladerunner1811]

I think this is the most outlandish story I've read in a long time.

And if this is real, I'll say it again. Move on and ditch both of them.

It is totally on the level !this is he first time I have ever been in a crazy situation like this in my life.

 

[palemale]

You guys are all over-thinking this. You sound like a bunch of lesbains. Bladerunner, his bf and gal pal are all having fun. Great for them. Life's too short not to have all the fun you can. My recommendation, ditch the rule about the pussy, slip on a condom and fuck both her holes.

 

[Bladerunner1811]

You guys are all over-thinking this. You sound like a bunch of lesbains. Bladerunner, his bf and gal pal are all having fun. Great for them. Life's too short not to have all the fun you can. My recommendation, ditch the rule about the pussy, slip on a condom and fuck both her holes.

well you have a point life is too short to knit pick.

Now I dunno about that fucking her in the pussy though god knows if we wanted to go that route we have tons of unused condoms.

 

[Rolyo85]

I don't know. I'm all about fun having, but not when it can lead to unwanted dependancies.

First of all, a woman who is only attracted to gays is messed up. I know it happens, I know it's a culture thing, but it is TOTALLY messed up, and she needs help in a serious way, not someone enabling her delusions. Because let's face it - the chances of a situation like that surviving long are extremely small, and the chances of her finding a new gay couple/single guy to bang her are slim at best.

Second, if what you are saying about the orgasm being stronger, AND if this persists, then your friend might have a point. Not because you'll get teh gay cured out of you (duh), but because if for whatever reason this kinky situation does it for you in a way regular sex with your bf doesn't, you WILL end up wanting it when she leaves, if you've done it long and often enough by then. So what, you'll keep looking for females to fuck? That's not a way to maintain a stable relationship.


Generally, you need to STOP thinking of the logistics and technicalities of having sex with her, and start thinking and discussing with your boyfriend EXCLUSIVELY (without her present) what this means emotionally for both the two of you and your relationship. So far you've done none of that.

 

[Bladerunner1811]

I don't know. I'm all about fun having, but not when it can lead to unwanted dependancies.

First of all, a woman who is only attracted to gays is messed up. I know it happens, I know it's a culture thing, but it is TOTALLY messed up, and she needs help in a serious way, not someone enabling her delusions. Because let's face it - the chances of a situation like that surviving long are extremely small, and the chances of her finding a new gay couple/single guy to bang her are slim at best.

Second, if what you are saying about the orgasm being stronger, AND if this persists, then your friend might have a point. Not because you'll get teh gay cured out of you (duh), but because if for whatever reason this kinky situation does it for you in a way regular sex with your bf doesn't, you WILL end up wanting it when she leaves, if you've done it long and often enough by then. So what, you'll keep looking for females to fuck? That's not a way to maintain a stable relationship.

( she texted us earlier today to tell us that she foundout that she could keep working here and not transfer.... we told her not to transfer that we wanted her to stay here,so she did the paper work to stay here,partly because we liked it,partly because we wouldn't want to have to look for anther chick if that happened and partly so she wouldn't want to have to try to find anoter gay couple/guy)

Generally, you need to STOP thinking of the logistics and technicalities of having sex with her, and start thinking and discussing with your boyfriend EXCLUSIVELY (without her present) what this means emotionally for both the two of you and your relationship. So far you've done none of that


(actually we did afer she left his morning to go to work,we talked about it to length and we are going to stick wih the way things are...i'll update on how the situation goes between us)

 

[TX-Beau]

Women who are attracted to gay men want to date them not fuck them - because they have issues about sex. They want all of the boyfriend, none of the cock.

Women who just want to get off can find a ton of guys who'll actually slip it to them and want nothing more.

What you are describing is surely quite an unusual beast.

Not to mention two gay men who were just getting off so much on ass-fucking a girl they just couldn’t stop.

Bullshit.

Here’s what I think is going on here. Either you’re getting some amusement out of stringing us along, or you’re a gay man who doesn’t want to be a gay man and has concocted this fantasy wherein you’re some strange version of straight desperately hoping that if you in fact had sex with a woman enough – that would somehow fix you.

Why? Because you’ve got this strange version of a woman who wants nothing but to have butt sex with you but nobody actually has to deal with her twat. You’ve got this strange boyfriend who wants to have sex with you and a woman provided no one has to deal with her twat. You’ve said several times that you aren’t going to “turn straight,” but that your friends are terribly worried about this.

In fact you’ve brought up “turning straight,” a couple of times even though no one in here ever said that.

And perhaps that’s the point of this whole story – the possibility in your head, that if you could just find a woman who would have enough sex with you, that would do the trick.

 

[Bladerunner1811]

Women who are attracted to gay men want to date them not fuck them - because they have issues about sex. They want all of the boyfriend, none of the cock.

Women who just want to get off can find a ton of guys who'll actually slip it to them and want nothing more.

What you are describing is surely quite an unusual beast.

Not to mention two gay men who were just getting off so much on ass-fucking a girl they just couldn’t stop.

Bullshit.

Here’s what I think is going on here. Either you’re getting some amusement out of stringing us along, or you’re a gay man who doesn’t want to be a gay man and has concocted this fantasy wherein you’re some strange version of straight desperately hoping that if you in fact had sex with a woman enough – that would somehow fix you.

Why? Because you’ve got this strange version of a woman who wants nothing but to have butt sex with you but nobody actually has to deal with her twat. You’ve got this strange boyfriend who wants to have sex with you and a woman provided no one has to deal with her twat. You’ve said several times that you aren’t going to “turn straight,” but that your friends are terribly worried about this.

In fact you’ve brought up “turning straight,” a couple of times even though no one in here ever said that.

And perhaps that’s the point of this whole story – the possibility in your head, that if you could just find a woman who would have enough sex with you, that would do the trick.

Look dude i don't really care what you think,because I KNOW whats going on in my house,and just what i said is going on is going on.

Maybe your just offended that we are trying something diffrent,but then I don't really care what you think.we're trying it and we are going to keep on trying it wther you approve or not!!!

And as to my bringing up str8 a few times reading peoples posts online some times I miss what they are implying simply because I am no hearing their "WORDS".There are some people like that that pick up better on what a person is saying with their mouth then what they are saying on line!!

 

[TX-Beau]

And we hit the nerve.

Look no one is going to condemn you, and we're here to help. But you really have to tell us what's going on if we're to be any use.

 

[Bladerunner1811]

And we hit the nerve.

Look no one is going to condemn you, and we're here to help. But you really have to tell us what's going on if we're to be any use.

Sorry I haven't had any caffine today,and get snappy.

But exactly what I have said is going on is actually happening.

 

[TX-Beau]

Well then this discussion has run it's course and you've made your decision.

 

[Rolyo85]

I'm not allowed to bring in other topics in here, but after your pro-Republican anti-nazi-socialist-Democrat rant, I have to say I believe that TX has indeed hit a nerve here. Of course, how you feel about yourself as a gay man might be off-topic for this particular discussion, but it might also be the core of the whole situation. I notice you did not address that part of TX's post.

And because you are new and obviously don't know us, let me just tell you that TX-Beau is the LAST person you can offend in any possible way, least of all by being in an unconventional relationship. He is also probably the best here at striking at the core of a problem, which is why it's easy to get angry over what he says.

 

[Bladerunner1811]

I'm not allowed to bring in other topics in here, but after your pro-Republican anti-nazi-socialist-Democrat rant, I have to say I believe that TX has indeed hit a nerve here. Of course, how you feel about yourself as a gay man might be off-topic for this particular discussion, but it might also be the core of the whole situation. I notice you did not address that part of TX's post.

And because you are new and obviously don't know us, let me just tell you that TX-Beau is the LAST person you can offend in any possible way, least of all by being in an unconventional relationship. He is also probably the best here at striking at the core of a problem, which is why it's easy to get angry over what he says.

(well what i was trying to get at on the other post was basically we can change the repubs from the inside was all.And as to my snapping at Tx-Beau,it wasn't that i was mad at him just that i was dealing with a caffine induced headache because cause I didn't have caffine at the moment!Otherwise he could have said anything and i'd have just shrugged it off.

 

[Bladerunner1811]

Back to your OP. Have you resolved the issue about not being sure about your bf? Is he gay or bi?

Well at this point I think he's leaning toward bi personally...not that it matters to me though.

 

[Bladerunner1811]

I hope this will work seems like when I try to share links they never work

This is a pic of my BF

http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u308/josephperkins/?action=view&current=thm_phpnAa8YG.jpg


and this is one he took of me and our best gal pal just clowning recently while we where all drunk and spaced ou yeh we smoke the weed everyonce in a blue moon inother words once or twice a year

http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/...rrent=20850_436693016799_510151799_575452.jpg

 

[Bladerunner1811]

If he is bi, i bet he is ecstatic. He has the best of both worlds and the permission to have it.
So long as you are happy, that's the important thing.
I just hope that he values you MORE than any desire to settle down to a more conventional life. In experience, bi guys enjoy guys for sex. Not saying that is true of all bi guys, especially the older ones who have a mature outlook or been there done that ethos. But just in experience i've been flipped twice in favour of convention by young bi guys.
How old are you all?

i'm 20,he's 19 and she's 23