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Clean living is less fun

I hope this doesn't come across sounding too rude, but IMO, if you're not having fun sober, you're not trying hard enough.

Bingo.

I recall many parties where fraternity friends woke up in the morning with a severe hangover and pronounced they had a lot of fun. I always asked what was fun, and most of the time the answer was "I don't remember". I always said, "If you don't remember, it doesn't count".

I knew guys in college who had never touched alcohol or tobacco or even gotten sugar highs, who had far more fun than most people ever did. They remembered all their good times, instead of having to claim they must have had a good time because they didn't remember them. And they never had to worry about being unfit to meet a new challenge or try a different activity because they were hung over or their lungs were weak from smoking or any such thing.


As for the thread title, I say it can be correct, if in this context: clean living is less fun than balanced living. Balanced living is basically clean living that isn't afraid to try something a little different, whether getting drunk or stoned or altering their perceptions of reality via 'shrooms or something. In the end, non-clean living is really very constraining, because it falls into repetition and ruts that inhibit creativity, and clean living is less so but still constraining because it rules many things out without really looking at them.

But the least fun life is one where you take other people's word for what's fun and never take on the adventure for yourself.
 
It depends how you define "fun."

Setting goals then achieving goals professionally and personally is fun. Traveling to discover new cuisines and cultures is fun. Spending time with buddies at a sporting event or concert is fun. Sex is fun. Making new friends is fun. Skiing on fresh snow/powder with friends is fun. Working on a new business idea is fun.
 
Fun is different for everyone and fun can be had in many different ways. I like my own idea of "fun", which is to stay safe, sane, and in control of my mental and physical faculties. When I am healthy, I can do most whatever I want in terms of fun: running, swimming, all sorts of sports...chatting, hanging, and road tripping with friends....watching the latest film or an oldie-but-goodie...traveling and experiencing the scenery and cultures of the world....knowing exactly when and where everything happened so they can be relished and relieved in my memories. That to me is fun. Very fun. But to each his own.
 
There was a time when I had a lot of fun and didn't have to have a drop of alcohol or anything else. That time was before I hit puberty and before I was really hit with what I would call the gravity of the world and living.

Now, there are times when I have fun and am sober, like when I'm playing video games, reading, or watching movies/TV, but when I think about the most fun times I've ever had in the past decade, they generally involved at least a little drinking.

With that said, the worst times of my life were almost all because of getting too drunk and saying and doing things that I am very embarrassed about, so I think it's really a double-edged sword. Too much of a good thing can be bad in some cases.
 
And you wind up feeling stupid when you still die.

Agree/disagree?

Discuss.

Disagree. How many times have I heard that from alcoholics and addicts? I think you're just looking for an excuse to use. You asked.
 
Fun, like Clean, is in the eye of the beholder.

Compared to many here I don't live a clean and sober life. I enjoy to drink, responsibly. Whether that's killing a few beers while fishing or having some wine with dinner, I enjoy it and it doesn't prompt me to do stupid things. I have NEVER driven under the influence.
I also enjoy marijuana. I'm not some hapless stoner drifting through life, I own and operate my own business, but in the evening I like vaping a little weed and relaxing.


Living clean isn't your problem, living clean against your desires is. It's the difference between having an addiction and fighting an addiction. I wish you all the luck in the world, ............you'll find your way.
 
sorry ashy, man. for a second, i thought the title was cleaning ass is less fun. my fault.
 
I'll be celebrating 37 years of sobriety within a month.
Nothing on EARTH could make me take a drink.......NOTHING........I'd rather be dead than go through that shit again and if I HADN'T quit I would be dead.......no doubt about it.
 
Oh lord, you guys. I'd just finished wolfing down half a cheesecake when I posted this thread and I completely forgot about posting this until right now. :lol:
 
Clean life can be a lot of fun. As much fun as not clean? That is a toss-up.

I'm sipping on some Camparis and sodas after a long cold day standing outside. I'm thinking that hot chocolate might have done the trick...but not as fuzzy.
 
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