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OK, here goes.

In January of this year, my relationship crumbled. My ex had cheated on me with about six other guys over two years. It killed me. Still feeling some of the emotional insecurities that came with his blatant disrespect for myself. Upon reflecting on it, I don't hold myself responsible for his actions, but I did recognize some codependent behaviors that I displayed.

About three months later, I became friends with a neighbor who lived about two blocks away from me. We met at the bar on the block in between our apartments. We had a sort of sex with benefits relationship, however, I was still having pretty big intimacy issues (and in many ways, I still am). So the benefits came to a close. On a friendship level, we're great! We do get along, and I enjoy going out and having him in my social life.

But on that same note, it's becoming way too much. He's become almost "attached." I feel like I'm losing my independent identity. It really hit when I went out one night, and he was meeting me at the bar and when I asked the bartender for a drink, he says "Don't you want two? Where's your other half?" That's when I realized that I'm not developing an independent identity anymore. I appreciate this friendship, but I want to date, develop new social circles, and I feel that I can't with my perceived "other half."

I do have grindr, scruff and tinder profiles, which I've never hidden, but when I get an alert from Scruff or Tinder, I always get this awkward look or comment about it, or I'll notice that my friend looks at my scruff profile every few days. I feel like I'm being watched.

I moved about three weeks ago (albeit my new apartment is only about 9 blocks away from where I lived before), and I thought "Great! This will give me some space! No more bed/couch crasher half the week!" And it has helped, but it also hasn't. In some ways, I get my space in some ways but we talked about grabbing dinner one night and as I was on my way home from work he goes "Hey, I parked on the street so I would take up to parking spaces, so let me know when you're close!" And know when he does come over, he leaves clothes here (not a suitcase, but there's a pair of socks or a shirt to change into/out of left behind). He even bought "stuff" for my apartment, which I really appreciate, but I feel like I haven't been able to make my home "my" home."

So, I was honest at that point and said "I do look forward to hanging out with you, but sometimes, I'd like to get home and relax for an hour or so before heading out. I need to walk the dog, change, check the mailbox... and I feel like after working a 10-hour day, I don't want to be 'on-stage' entertaining a friend as soon as I get home." And then he told me "I know you need space, I know I get clingy." I told him I had signed up to do some volunteer orientations with two different organizations, so I could add something else to my personal life, and it was "Oh which ones? That sounds fun!" and I said "You should do it! Just google something you're into and I'm sure something will come up!" and his response was "Well, I wouldn't do something like that alone!" So I told him "This is something I'm doing by myself." And he sort of got it, and it was good for 48-hours... and the pattern started again.

Last night, I was sitting on the couch watching TV and he layed his on my shoulder, and then he picked my arm up and put in behind his back as he layed down on my lap. And we're not a couple - and it just seems too "couple-y" for me.

I'm afraid to cut him cold turkey because he said he's always battled depression and he's felt it kick up recently, and he the friendship is greatly valued, but the blurred line needs to be made bold, and I can't keep feeling like he's watching every move or taking up my social calendar if I'm going to get out and start dating again. Just not sure how to have the conversation without making him feel bad about himself. I get I'm going to be the bad guy, which I'm OK with because it's a healthy move for me, but I am concerned about his well being. Ugh.
 
Sorry about your ex, he didn´t deserve you. Good thing you found out what type of person he is so you won´t waste more of your life on him. Focus on the good stuff, memories, experience etc.

I don´t think that your friend is batshit crazy, but a really introverted guy who finally found a friend and since he has no experience on friendships, he fucks up by being too clingy. Does he know other people, has other friends? When you are out together, bring the conversation to what friendship means to you, talk about your other friends, ask about his etc. If you can and want to, help him make friends.

If you are not in the mood of being with him, be blunt, but respectful. From where I am, the fact that he saved a parking space for you was just a good intention but I see how it would seem crazy to you. We always see the worst in every action of the ones that are getting on our nerves.

You don´t want to make him suffer (you´re a good friend), but he shouldn´t make you uncomfortable either and what better way there is other than talking to him? Let him know that you don´t let your friends let down on your lap and it is a too intimate action to do with other than your partner.

Be careful though, see what reaction he has when you back off a little and see him less. If he takes it badly, I´d advise you to stay away from him or make him get help, but this would be the worst case scenario and I doubt it will happen.
 
Your friend needs a dog. :)

What you have is a sweet, thoughtful friend who is lonely and hasn't learned to be alone yet. So, in lieu of a furry companion, he's looking to you to fill a gap in his life.

There's nothing wrong with that- for either of you. But the problem is that as long as you're using each other to fill that empty space in both your lives, you're not finding the real companions that you want. The non-furry companions that are both friends and lovers.

Both of you need to expand your circles a bit more. Both of you need to date. Both of you need to find other friends to be with. Both of you need to find a balance between "true friends" versus "friends in need". Otherwise, what will happen is that one of you will friend a boyfriend and the other person will get hurt and jealous.

You've taken a step in the right direction by talking about it. The next step is to help him understand that using you to avoid his own loneliness isn't helping him.
 
Yes, I agree with others on your issue. You both need to start dating and meeting other people, and it seems like you both are ready. Once you start finding a guy to date, that guy will be filling up more of your free time and your clingy friend will start to understand that is what he needs as well since you will not be there to play the role of companion.

In terms of trying to curb his attachment to you, I would suggest adding another friend or 2 to the mix, so that the dynamic won't be so much like a couple. The next time he invites you to hang out, invite another friend too. Make sure it is in a group setting when you guys are hanging out so you can create distance without there being a noticeable void. This will also allow you guys to better define lines in your friendship based on how you interact with your other new friends.
 
Okay the issue is, you're not into him. But what you've told him instead is "I'm having attachment issues because my ex was an asshole."

Your friend-with-benefits-and-now-just-friend is patiently waiting for you to heal from your shitty experience with your ex, because you told him that's what the issue was and he believed you.

When you say "I do look forward to hanging out with you but..." he is hearing:

"I do look forward to hanging out with you because I really really want to make this work, but I need an hour or two each night to deal with my attachment issues so we can be together the rest of the evening."

When he says "I know you need space and I know I get clingy" what he is really saying is "I'm not an idiot and I would never hit on someone that wasn't into me or get 'clingy' inappropriately, but since you're into me and it is only the attachment issues keeping us apart, I will wait until the end of time until you have healed from what that asshole did to you, and I just can't help getting clingy sometimes."


Sooo, the deal is, each of you has a different idea of what the issue is.
 
^This is the same thing I was thinking. He's looking for more at the same time you're looking for less. It's up to you to enforce your needed boundaries with actions rather than with words. Tip-toeing around his perceived feelings at the expense of your own is an example of your codependency.
 
There are definitely points that hit home with what each of you has said, and I thank you for that!

I'm definitely most concerned about my own codependency issues (it sounds selfish... but, so be it), which as Seasoned said, I'm tip-toeing around what I think he's feeling at the expense of my own feelings.

It's just time for a very straight-forward conversation.

Thanks for all of your input!
 
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