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Complicated situation with ex.

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This is sort of a long story, but I'll try to keep it brief.

My boyfriend and I recently broke up after 15 months of being together. We moved in together last August and are in a lease for the next 2 months. He's been sending me a ton of mixed signals. But, first some background.

He is an international (we live in the US), has applied for his business visa and is waiting to see if he's been selected. With all the applicants he has about a 60% chance of being randomly selected, but he won't know until as late as the end of September. His family is also going through turmoil at home. His father had an affair and he feels that even if he gets his visa he may return home within the next two years or less, but ONLY if his mom asks him to. Btw, he is not out to his parents. They have no clue he is with me, as he fears he would be ostracized from his family (he's originally from Indonesia).

A few days later, I found a suspicious email on his computer. He had a sex club ad up (something he would never look at), so I took a look at his email. He had been emailing a guy whom I had never met. First it seemed innocent. But he also emailed an old face pic of him to the guy, the guy returns with kissing emoticons, etc. In another they talk about how cute each other is, again with the kissing emoticons. Most disturbingly, he sent the guy pics of him WHILE we were on vacation together. I confront him about it and he lies that the guy is even gay - which I got him to admit. Then tells me he was just flirting. I asked him to please stop, as I am not comfortable with this going on.

Then about a week later, he hands me a letter after we have sex. In it, he tells me how much he loves me and how I was so good to him, etc. and then follows with how he has lost the passion. He says how he basically doesn't like bottoming and that it is also very hard to top me. I've been getting into bottoming lately and am starting to enjoy it, but it doesn't always work out. I told him this takes time to work on, and in long-term relationships the passion starts to fizzle after a while and requires work. But in it he suggests living apart, as our relationship started out long-distance in the hopes of re-igniting the passion.

We both took a couple of days to think it over and I asked him what he thought. He didn't really say anything. He isn't the best at communicating his feelings. I said after thinking it over and discussing it with some close friends, that I think he wants to break-up. He said yes. Of course, I was devastated, we both cried. But I tried to remain strong and tell him I can't force him to love me. I didn't bring up the suspicious emails I found during this conversation, but we talked about everything else I've mentioned. We also decide when the lease is up in 2 months, we will get our own separate places.

Now that we are broken up for just over a week or so, he is still trying to initiate a lot of physical contact. He has kissed me a couple times before he goes to work while I'm sleeping (I work 12 hour nights, he works 9-5 days), cuddles up next to me in bed when I'm there, sometimes holding me really tight. I don't know how to respond. I honestly like it when he holds me, but feel confused. We also went out only once together but with a mutual friend. He asks me if I would get back together with him, or is it too soon? I said yes it's definitely too soon. Plus there are some issues we would have to resolve before getting back together. He rubs my leg while we are out as well and when she leaves starts crying and telling me how I am the perfect one, not him. Is he guilty of something?

But he has also been hiding something from me. He's been entering a password on his phone, going to the lobby of our building to talk to his "mom", texting furiously but turning so I can't see his phone, putting his phone on silent and upside down. All things he has never done before. I happened to spot him receiving a couple texts from this other guy who he was previously emailing. The other guy even called him one time. I saw it when he had the phone laying out and he was in the other room. I told him you're getting a call. He looked at the phone with dread and didn't answer it... its after that he started putting his phone upside down.

But he keeps doing all these other things, sweet-talking me, smiling at me, physical contact, saying he will still cook for me after we move out, go shopping with me, asking about getting back together all the while he's been doing this other crap.

My question is how to interpret this situation. My heart is truly broken, but I still have feelings for him. Do I confront him about the other guy? Do I ask him what's going on in his mind? I feel like he wants to play around without me knowing about it, but keep me at his side still. Even though I have no iron-clad proof he's done anything physical, it's definitely at least emotional. Since we also have opposite work schedules, I have no idea what he's up to when I'm working. I'm so confused, heartbroken and frustrated at this point, I don't know what to do. I haven't approached him about any of this since our break-up, because frankly I'm not sure what to think. Any advice or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
 
Since you have broken up, it is ok for him to have other relationships that he doesn't tell you about...you no longer have a right to tell him who he can talk to or sleep with. However, if he really wanted to get back together with you, he would not be doing all that secretive texting, etc. He's playing you...trying to keep all his options open, which is not fair to you.

I wouldn't waste my time confronting him about it...you don't trust him, and he likely won't be honest with you anyway. Continue to make your plans to move out and move on with your life, and make him stop with the cuddling and kisses...
 
You two may say you've broken up but by keeping some of the same routines and the same living arrangement you are still together. I'd force an emotional separation by not sleeping in the same bad and avoiding each other during waking hours. He wants the excitement of something new. Some people never get over that desire and go from person to person as the initial excitement wanes. Let him go and don't give him the benefit of being in the best of both worlds.

Good luck to you.
 
He can't break up with you, reject you, and then behave like someone who wants to date you. Or at least he shouldn't. It's shitty. And you shouldn't entertain it.

He does not have the skill to handle his emotions properly in a relationship, and to be pessimistic, he may not have the character necessary to develop that skill. Or he may just be young and dim, and needed to end the relationship, mess around, or at least think about messing around, before realizing he had it pretty good.

Also, some people from other cultures have the wrong priorities about families and relationships. If his family would treat you badly because you're with him, he should want to be ostracised from them.

Maybe he could surprise you, but please don't wait for him to get his shit together. I think what it boils down to really is:
His loss.

If at all possible, just forget the last two months of the lease, eat the cost, and move on. Nobody should have to put up with needy kisses from a messed-up guy who dumped him.
 
I would say wait out the two month lease and the move on. If he can't see what he has,then it's his loss,not yours.
 
Sounds like he wants you on his hook, and your being hooked, he doesn't want you right now, but he wants you to stay available, I'd end it for good if I were you. It's his loss.
 
I think he's doing the cuddle and kisses thing to ease his guilty conscience. He's playing nice because he knows he's hurt you and its an assholes way of making himself feel better for what he did. The next time he snuggles up or goes to kiss you tell him to fuck off. You can use other words if you want but that's pretty much what I'd tell him. he seems to have gotten over you rather quickly if the two of you just broke up. He sounds like a giant asshole. he hands you a letter AFTER the two of you have sex???? what a spineless dick. Tell him he's made his choice and he should go snuggle up with mr x. if you're sharing a room with him I'd either sleep on the sofa or stay at a friends. I'd be as cold as ice to him. no kisses, no snuggles nothing.

Steven.
 
First, I want to thank everyone for all of their advice. I had already spoken with some friends about my situation, but needed some more objective advice. Last night I confronted him about his behavior and asked if he was seeing someone else. He was honest right away and told me that he was, the same guy whose emails I discovered and who was calling and texting him so frequently. He claimed it wasn't serious, they were both the same age, (we are a few years apart) and that he didn't want to get too attached in case he did not get his visa. Whatever. I did thank him for not bringing the guy over here and told him he was never allowed here.

He also tried some shit by saying that I am so nice and the other guy really isn't very nice. Good, I honestly hope he isn't. He tried to touch and console me, I just said "Please don't touch me." I know, probably too nice. He said he still loved me and cared about me. I didn't acknowledge it. Maybe he still has feelings, but if he really did love me he never would have done this. I asked him to stop his physical advances altogether since he is seeing someone else and he was okay with that.

I told him not to hide what he's doing anymore, that he lives here and shouldn't have to secretively text or leave to talk on the phone. He agreed, and I also agreed not to inquire about the details of any of his conversations and that I would also respect his right to privacy... Privacy, yes. Secrecy and lies, no. This should create a much better living situation over the next 2 months.

He wants to still be my friend. I'm not sure where to go with his proposition. Some boundaries have been established, but I believe it's too soon for this to happen. I want to be friendly, especially since we are living together, but I don't know if I'm ready for a full friendship. It seems like it would be best to get over the break-up first. And I certainly have no desire to meet the other guy or have that rubbed in my face, so our friendship could never reach that level.

I now feel a lot better, not just because the truth is out, but because he was immediately honest with me. The whole conversation was civil, no yelling or name-calling was involved. He had no problem telling me the truth, he said he hadn't earlier because he didn't want to hurt me. I believe that. I just hope he has learned something from this, I can tell he feels very guilty.

I need to work through it and hopefully in time I will be able to trust and fall in love again. That is really what I am worried about.
 
He wants to still be my friend. I'm not sure where to go with his proposition. Some boundaries have been established, but I believe it's too soon for this to happen. I want to be friendly, especially since we are living together, but I don't know if I'm ready for a full friendship. It seems like it would be best to get over the break-up first. And I certainly have no desire to meet the other guy or have that rubbed in my face, so our friendship could never reach that level.

Usually if someone shows failings that would prevent a relationship, it would also prevent a friendship. "Cordial acquaintances" would probably be okay, but simultaneously dating someone while breaking up with you and then showing you all kinds of affection is just a little bit too ridiculous to deserve your respect as a boyfriend or as a friend.

Trusting and falling in love again will come from understanding this is true of your ex, and then finding someone who is more with it.
 
So things are improving slowly. The biggest problem I believe I am now having is being so co-dependent. It may have been what really killed the relationship, maybe not. But it's definitely killing me now. Just sad as hell, feeling angry and resentful and can't stop thinking about all the things I could be doing with him this summer. I'm driving myself nuts. I was wondering if anybody had any tips on getting him out of my head. We sleep in separate rooms, and have arranged our schedules to avoid one another. But I'm still having a hell of a time moving on. I'm more depressed than I've ever been and feeling periods of anxiety as well:( I still care about what he's doing and that he seems to be having such a wonderful fucking life with this new guy. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
You might want to start by being friendly rather than being friends. Things might improve for you once you are living separately. You need time to grieve the end of the relationship. He's missing that process by being distracted by a new guy.

Your thoughts of what you might have done differently means you are in the bargaining phase of the grieving process. Your best course of action is to feel and acknowledge your feelings and then move on to your daily activities. Try to spend as little time as possible at your apartment especially if you are snooping around when he's not there. Whenever possible spend the night elsewhere.

You'll be in a better place in the long run by getting though the grief now. How are you handling your anger? Watch for signs of wanting to hurt him or his property.

Take care.
 
You've pretty much figured out the problem- the co-dependence of the relationship. It's normal to have some rough patches when you're going from "we" to "me" again. It's a process and you've done a lot of the things that are recommended during a rough breakup- avoiding each other, not sleeping together, not continuing FWB relationship, etc.

I will get better once he moves out and there's some time and distance between the two of you. In the meantime, it might be helpful to see a therapist and work through some of what you're feeling and working on not repeating the same co-dependent behaviors in your next relationship.
 
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