Confess something that might surprise others or damage your reputation on JUB - 2014

[belamyi]

Fashion or more property called "retail apparel" is a weird beast. Yes it is "status" driven [had trouble coming up with a better adjective]. Vera Wang is at Target which is another mindfuck. Reckon it is not wedding dresses but still weird.

Any way, Horray for bowel movements!

And we also know the worse of it all: if we brought about a total makeover to the fashions and in the fashion industrry, more comfortable, more sustainable, fairer, people would hate and bash it from the moment they were aware of it because they hate the sense of control, of awareness that they take for being controlled, while they would long for old Vera Wangs and Michaek Kors and RL and Hilfigers and Herreras, who ARE really controlling, but that they have never associated to that mindfucking control.

Liberty for the masses, like with all other "spiritual" things, music, art, religion, literature, is all about the FEELING OF IT, not about the thing itself... because it demands more thinking than they are willing to make, as simple an uncomplicated as it acutally is...

 

[maxpowr9]

^Yet I am sure you love your Zara.

 

[belamyi]

I like Goya and Spanish art, so of course I make the statement only as an example of a statement made false through its overly lazy broadness. Much like virtually anything you could say about the American herd en masse, which consists of 300 million people of every different kind of background and creed you can think of.

But buzz, those are the flashings in the pan... the exceptional in Spain is truly an exception in a desert, while in greater nations like France, Britain or the USA, they are higher peaks which are , for all the hate, nurtured and protected by a general climate and soil, not pampered personally by the king, like Velázquez, or actually despised even when the greatness has been generally acknowledged, like Cervantes.
You know that Severo Ochoa is usually cited, and in school I was taught about him as such, as one Spanish Nobel Prize, while he is just one among your dozen American ones, because not only he developed his Nobel Prize-worth work in America, but had even been naturalized before being oficially recognized. He only came back to Spain to die peacefully once his life work was done.

The nation of which I am a citizen is too big, and with too many huge pan flashes to be totally acknowledged as the little mean nation it actually and materially (not just "morally" as yours, or Britain, or any other one) IS.

 

[belamyi]

^Yet I am sure you love your Zara.

I hated even when today I wore those Massimo Dutti trousers and turtle neck... like the MK Mac sleeve: that is what we are bitching about, that even us are sometime compelled to buy from them what can not be found anywhere else... or at least unless you devote half your existence to it, as if you had to carry all the water you drink a day from a well, or make all your food or grow all that with which you cook it... I do not cynically bash the system, I bash the bad way of ruling it that is bringing it, and us with it, to the inevitable disaster... happy that, like in all ruthless rules, we are left with some precious bits to feed and live on, like being able to think and write this.

 

[belamyi]

I like Goya and Spanish art, so of course I make the statement only as an example of a statement made false through its overly lazy broadness. Much like virtually anything you could say about the American herd en masse, which consists of 300 million people of every different kind of background and creed you can think of.

I'd rather say it is made false, either by your lack of comprehension or my lack of accuracy in articulating it.

 

[xbuzzerx]

I'd rather say it is made false, either by your lack of comprehension or my lack of accuracy in articulating it.

I would say in general you leap incredibly too quickly to the former conclusion and vastly too infrequently to the latter. With nearly everyone. Only in this case, there is utterly no chance of the former.

 

[belamyi]

I would say in general you leap incredibly too quickly to the former conclusion and vastly too infrequently to the latter. With nearly everyone. Only in this case, there is utterly no chance of the former.

That was so loveRly

But the former was just a mere logical option, not a real stament

 

[borg69unimatrix]

Oh, that's just everyday, business-as-usual fashion: you take the exact same jacket or pants your great grandad wore (literally) and then put some patches, or Swarovski crystals, or whatever will make the clueless believe it is toooootally different, not just different, which it obviously is, but fundamentally different, as if the cut or the materials had underwent a revolution and total makeover, because it is cheaper and since people will take and buy it just as if it were really totally new all the same.

I remember laughing at the windows of Zara and Mango last late August and September, when the "new season trends" brought checkers and plaid...

Do you think we've reached a point where there is no more room for anything truely New and original in fashion, art, music, movies...?

I assume there's still room for improvement in science, medicine, architecture...

 

[belamyi]

Do you think we've reached a point where there is no more room for anything truely New and original in fashion, art, music, movies...?

I assume there's still room for improvement in science, medicine, architecture...

With the constricted and ever-more-constricted officiall options, of course not... men wearing essentially the same suits that were developed before WWI, and being given as only honorable alternative the silly kilted full plaid or the sarong, indeed it would seem that there is nothing... something like what women would have thought about female fashions back in 1914.

There was nothing new possible in literature either after Virgil, Homer, Sophocles, Tacitus, Livius, Plato, Terence, Ovid, Theocritus, Juvenal... there were no possible, at least no possible sophisticated, cultured music outside plainsong music.... and Wren knew very well that architecture could not develop outside the system of orders... and what about science and medicine! the Greeks knew it all already!!

 

[carey579]

With the constricted and ever-more-constricted officiall options, of course not... men wearing essentially the same suits that were developed before WWI, and being given as only honorable alternative the silly kilted full plaid or the sarong, indeed it would seem that there is nothing... something like what women would have thought about female fashions back in 1914.

There was nothing new possible in literature either after Virgil, Homer, Sophocles, Tacitus, Livius, Plato, Terence, Juvenal...

That is the tragedy of menswear that it hasn't changed that much especially formal wear for the last century.

Designers like Tom Ford make me homicidal

 

[belamyi]

Oh, and painting! good old wall painting and with religious themes... what else, at least worthy of serious consideration, could be developed apart from that!!

 

[figjam]

Confession - I tend to stick my penis in the potato salad my aunt makes for the local home craft store.

The mayonnaise seems to work wonders - my penis has never been smoother or looked younger...

 

[belamyi]

That is the tragedy of menswear that it hasn't changed that much especially formal wear for the last century.

Designers like Tom Ford make me homicidal

Plastron and even the ties, to some extent, are like what the corsages were to women in the past... and the alternatives so far have been as sillly as Bloomer and Poiret were for women striving to free themselves from XIXth century sense of feminine elegance and propriety.

In fact, one of the problems with male fashion is that man IS NOT allowed to shine in his own right, because you have to make way as much for female sense of vanity as for male chauvinist sensual pleasure.

 

[carey579]

Plastron and even the ties, to some extent, are like the corsages were to women in the past... and the alternatives so far have been as sillly as Bloom and Poiret were for women striving to free themselves from XIXth century sense of feminine elegance and propriety.

In fact, one of the problems with male fashion is that men IS NOT allowed to shine in his own right, because you have to make way as much for female sense of vanity as for male chauvinist sensual pleasure.

THIS!

OMG Belamo why aren't more people seeing this pink elephant in the room !?!

It's especially hilarious during the awards ceremonies like The Oscars or The Cannes when an actor poses in front of the cameramen who are all wearing exactly the same as he is!

 

[belamyi]

THIS!

OMG Belamo why aren't more people seeing this pink elephant in the room

It's especially hilarious during the awards ceremonies like The Oscars or The Cannes when an actor poses in front of the cameramen who are all wearing exactly the same as he is!

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But then only Brad Pitt was, obviously, the better dressed of them all

 

[figjam]

THIS!

OMG Belamo why aren't more people seeing this pink elephant in the room !?!

It's especially hilarious during the awards ceremonies like The Oscars or The Cannes when an actor poses in front of the cameramen who are all wearing exactly the same as he is!

Wow! On a scale from 1 to gay this post is a 12...

 

[carey579]

But then only Brad Pitt was, obviously, the better dressed of them all

Of-course. The designer/price makes all the difference

It's not that some designers do not create new options for even men's formal-wear but will they ever see the red carpet? Not as long as there are people who make comments like that right above me and this thread below and this is a gay forum

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/threads/395815-Guys-who-are-in-love-with-themselves-most-likely-gay-or-at-least-bi

 

[figjam]

Of-course. The designer/price makes all the difference

It's not that some designers do not create new options for even men's formal-wear but will they ever see the red carpet? Not as long as there are people who make comments like that right above me and this thread below and this is a gay forum

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/threads/395815-Guys-who-are-in-love-with-themselves-most-likely-gay-or-at-least-bi

lol! Shock horror.... How is the commercial uptake of new male fashion trends linked to forum comments?

 

[carey579]

lol! Shock horror.... How is the commercial uptake of new male fashion trends linked to forum comments?

You represent the majority of sheep out there due to whom that commercial uptake of new male fashion cannot happen.

 

[figjam]

You represent the majority of sheep out there due to whom that commercial uptake of new male fashion cannot happen.

Wow again. And you base that on the fact that I made a tongue-in-the-cheek comment on the gayness of noticing the similarity between evening wear worn by celebrities and the people photographing them as well as a comment on not putting people in boxes based on their sexual preferences?


Ok.