Conservative James O'Keefe screws up again

[chance1]

I would not describe what O'Keefe does as "fuck ups." A fuck-up is a mistake - what O'Keefe does is deliberate. He has never had any intention of reporting the truth.

It has been a long-standing frustration of the right that the truth has a liberal bias. Therefore, it is unfair to report the truth. If reality does not support your ideology, your only recourse is to create your own reality. Reporting the truth would support the left's position, and that is hardly fair, since the truth always leans to the left.

You can hardly blame O'Keefe (and the rest of the right-wing media) for making up stuff. It's not their fault. If the truth wasn't always backing the other side, they wouldn't have to.

LOL

I think this is an example of ................. you being in your words "right wing like"

you really can do better

and you should

as this represents an obscene, superior and incorrect POV

gorgeous day in NYC btw

 

[Jack Springer]

Since O'Keefe was actually able to get the US Attorney General's voting ballot has to tell you something.

Voter fraud is indeed real.

 

[Kulindahr]

So is ANYTHING he claimed about this attempt true?

 

[LuvFindsAndyHardy]

Since O'Keefe was actually able to get the US Attorney General's voting ballot has to tell you something.

Voter fraud is indeed real.

Except that he didn't. The video showed only the young man giving the name Eric Holder and then verifying his address. When the election official asks him to sign the roll, the man says he left his ID in the car and then he leaves. Had he SIGNED the roll as Eric Holder he would have committed a felony. Had the real Eric Holder shown up later in the day to vote he would have received a provisional ballot since his name was already checked off the rolls and an investigation would have been triggered.

And there is NO explanation how this person by person "voter fraud" even if successful would have any effect over an election's outcome.

 

[LuvFindsAndyHardy]

So is ANYTHING he claimed about this attempt true?

Who knows? When you have PROVEN yourself to be a fraud though (re the manufactured ACORN story and the video manipulation of the "dead voters" story) WHY should any subsequent assertions you make ever be taken at face value?

 

[CowboyBob]

^ZERO credibility.

What's the next manufactured crisis he'll be "reporting" on?

Breitbart junior.

 

[Kulindahr]

Except that he didn't. The video showed only the young man giving the name Eric Holder and then verifying his address. When the election official asks him to sign the roll, the man says he left his ID in the car and then he leaves. Had he SIGNED the roll as Eric Holder he would have committed a felony. Had the real Eric Holder shown up later in the day to vote he would have received a provisional ballot since his name was already checked off the rolls and an investigation would have been triggered.

And there is NO explanation how this person by person "voter fraud" even if successful would have any effect over an election's outcome.

So he didn't gt the ballot. No one got someone else's ballots. So what he proved is that voter verification is working just fine.

 

[LuvFindsAndyHardy]

So he didn't gt the ballot. No one got someone else's ballots. So what he proved is that voter verification is working just fine.

According to the video (take that for what it's worth) they were going to give him the ballot. I don't have any idea how many places he tried prior to this to support his claim nor how many names he used or what the rest of the story is. These videos are heavily edited and manipulated so judge for yourself.

I will not link directly to breitfart but all of the video links can be found here:

O'Keefe's Video On "Eric Holder's Ballot": Still Not Voter Fraud | Media Matters for America

ps....I HATE the way the new software displays links!

 

[Kulindahr]

According to the video (take that for what it's worth) they were going to give him the ballot. I don't have any idea how many places he tried prior to this to support his claim nor how many names he used or what the rest of the story is. These videos are heavily edited and manipulated so judge for yourself.

I will not link directly to breitfart but all of the video links can be found here:

O'Keefe's Video On "Eric Holder's Ballot": Still Not Voter Fraud | Media Matters for America

ps....I HATE the way the new software displays links!

LOL -- I'm not thrilled with it myself.

On the video, it sure looks like he was going to get the ballot. He seemingly left with the ID excuse in order to avoid actual voter fraud by accepting the ballot.

 

[LuvFindsAndyHardy]

On the video, it sure looks like he was going to get the ballot. He seemingly left with the ID excuse in order to avoid actual voter fraud by accepting the ballot.

Well, all I can say is, in the ACORN video it sure looks like the employee is colluding with the pimp, too. Until you get the facts, that is. So, who knows? He's hardly a credible source and he's not above manipulation to "prove" a point that couldn't be proven without manipulation. Zero credibility.

 

[Rolyo85]

It has been a long-standing frustration of the right that the truth has a liberal bias. Therefore, it is unfair to report the truth. If reality does not support your ideology, your only recourse is to create your own reality. Reporting the truth would support the left's position, and that is hardly fair, since the truth always leans to the left.

I completely agree here, as far as social issues are concerned. Social conservatism is absolute religiously produced santorum in a good 90% of the cases, and therefore anyone who tries to implement it in politics is instantly discredited. That's kind of the whole issue here with the conservatives/Republicans distinction.

chance, I really don't see how you could argue with that...

 

[Kulindahr]

^ So, really, as I almost posted earlier, the thread is mistitled: O'Keefe is no conservative.

 

[chance1]

I completely agree here, as far as social issues are concerned. Social conservatism is absolute religiously produced santorum in a good 90% of the cases, and therefore anyone who tries to implement it in politics is instantly discredited. That's kind of the whole issue here with the conservatives/Republicans distinction.

chance, I really don't see how you could argue with that...

T-Rexx's point that the Right doesn't speak the truth but progressives do ....... and that's the basic diff

sorry that's just an uber partisan blanket premise that is not worth debating

if you want to talk about a particular situation I'm all ears

 

[Kulindahr]

T-Rexx's point that the Right doesn't speak the truth but progressives do ....... and that's the basic diff

sorry that's just an uber partisan blanket premise that is not worth debating

if you want to talk about a particular situation I'm all ears

Economics.

 

[Lostlover]

He's a smarmy opportunist with an inflated sense of self. This kid will continue to fuck up and Fox will continue to fawn over him. I love how the right wingers refer to him as "an investigative journalist". He's a live-at-home-with-Mom-and-Dad youngster and films youtube videos. Love how he disabled comments in this last video he made.

That tells you all you need to know about what he thinks of the quality of his work... There's nothing more repulsive than a young conservative.

 

[chance1]

That tells you all you need to know about what he thinks of the quality of his work... There's nothing more repulsive than a young conservative.

except maybe a misogynistic, ageist who focuses on how one looks rather than how they are

that would be you

which is evident in your posts

O'Keefe is not bad because he's a conservative - it's about his actions

 

[Jack Springer]

Except that he didn't. The video showed only the young man giving the name Eric Holder and then verifying his address. When the election official asks him to sign the roll, the man says he left his ID in the car and then he leaves. Had he SIGNED the roll as Eric Holder he would have committed a felony. Had the real Eric Holder shown up later in the day to vote he would have received a provisional ballot since his name was already checked off the rolls and an investigation would have been triggered.

And there is NO explanation how this person by person "voter fraud" even if successful would have any effect over an election's outcome.

If O'Keefe was able to do this -- no doubt others can do and will do the same thing and end up casting a real ballot -- remember ACORN?

One vote can make a difference.

 

[Kulindahr]

That tells you all you need to know about what he thinks of the quality of his work... There's nothing more repulsive than a young conservative.

There are plenty of fine, friendly, intelligent young conservatives.

I'm not so sure about young Republicans.

 

[Kulindahr]

One vote can make a difference.

Which is why all these states passing the restrictive laws are hypocritical: if every vote is valuable, then there should be provisions in each one of those laws to check up on anyone on the rolls who doesn't get the new card, and a visit in person to find out why, and then to deliver the eligible voter to registration and walk him/her through it so no vote is lost.

Typically, Republicans are more interested in catching bad guys than in protecting good guys.

 

[Lostlover]

There are plenty of fine, friendly, intelligent young conservatives.

I'm not so sure about young Republicans.

I remember I was on an Arizona university campus one day and I passed a Young Republicans' campus booth and one of the volunteers asked me what I thought about animals and people marrying one another. Without outing myself, I reminded him that Arizona is the state of Goldwater and asked the egg-headed student what would Goldwater think about his party intruding into people's private lives.

His response? "This is the issue of our generation." Not so... not so.

Funny part is that I was with my boyfriend when we passed them. And despite being 107 degrees that day, he was wearing penny loafers, slacks and a button up t-shirt.