Conservatives Blast NBC's David Gregory

[Kulindahr]

Alfie, you didn't mention, with regard to Katrina, that not only didn't the FedGov accomplish much of anything, but also actively kept others from accomplishing things -- and that the liberal city and state administration actively harrassed citizens who were helping themselves.



Chance, I've watched three different sources of that video now; they're all the same, and I think you're pushing it. Yes, Gregory was being partisan, but I think the "auditioning for tv" remark is reaching. Being more prepared for what he was going to do would have been nice, yes, but I don't see a need to speculate on why he wasn't.


Though at least you didn't go overboard and try to hijack the thread into an attack on another post-er!

 

[Andreus]

gregory was not being partisan. it is ludicrous to say that he was. he was repeating the exact words of a BIPARTISAN COMMITTEE that was in all likelihood authored by justice o'connor. If the information and truth supports one side of the arguement, then it is NOT the job of the press to soften the truth so that one side doesnt look bad.

the truth is the truth.... it has no side and simply can't be partisan.

snow heard something he wasn't prepared for and put his foot in his mouth.

He used the standard attack plan that is used by all conservatives now, even the ones here at JUB.....

just yell and act offended that someone would actually dare the disrespect of uttering the truth in their presence. then stick to the feint offence until hell freezes over.

it really is that simple

get over it

 

[unclaimedblessing]

Can anyone else appreciate the irony of Fox calling other journalists partisan?
Anyone Fox is against I am for.
Dubya didn't like the bipartisan report. Snow was trying to discredit it (as probably ordered). Big friggin' surprise.
Where are all the people who blame the media for not questioning Bushs' tactics and actions all along?
Good for Gregory! At least he doesn't swallow the White House spin without question.

 

[Kulindahr]

I'm not finding where Snow is trying to discredit it. I do see what may be backpedaling, claims to have acknowledged things that I sure never heard anyone acknowledge before, until their noses were rubbed in it.

It looks to me like this thread is pretty partisan: one group plays "see no evil" WRT their hero, and the other plays "see no evil" the other direction. Occasionally a person might just end up being right, doing that, but it's rare.

 

[Andreus]

Can anyone else appreciate the irony of Fox calling other journalists partisan?
Anyone Fox is against I am for.
Dubya didn't like the bipartisan report. Snow was trying to discredit it (as probably ordered). Big friggin' surprise.
Where are all the people who blame the media for not questioning Bushs' tactics and actions all along?
Good for Gregory! At least he doesn't swallow the White House spin without question.

indeed

fox seems to put the neon in yellow journalism

truly tragic

 

[chance1]

gregory was not being partisan. it is ludicrous to say that he was. he was repeating the exact words of a BIPARTISAN COMMITTEE that was in all likelihood authored by justice o'connor. If the information and truth supports one side of the arguement, then it is NOT the job of the press to soften the truth so that one side doesnt look bad.

the truth is the truth.... it has no side and simply can't be partisan.

snow heard something he wasn't prepared for and put his foot in his mouth.

He used the standard attack plan that is used by all conservatives now, even the ones here at JUB.....

just yell and act offended that someone would actually dare the disrespect of uttering the truth in their presence. then stick to the feint offence until hell freezes over.

it really is that simple

get over it

Andreus - no one is upset that he quoted the report - it was the conclusion HE reached and shared as if ...............

he had read the whole report

so he has this opinion (which no one needs to hear about) and he hasn't even read the report

how unprofessional

how partisan

and as with everything, it is the body of work that one is judged on

 

[Kulindahr]

It looks to me like you're dodging a challenge I threw across your path, Sir. I asked you nicely to prove your claim that Gregory is a partisan. I wrote, "Can you kindly prove your claim? How was Gregory partisan, please tell. The MW definition of partisan is "a firm adherent to a party, faction, cause, or person, especially one exhibiting blind, prejudiced, and unreasoning allegiance." What exactly did NBC's reporter say that showed adherence to a party, a faction, or a cause?

Now, with all respect, if you cannot support your claims, then maybe you should be more circumspect before making them.

He took a piece of a report he admitted he didn't read through and used it in a one-sided way. It's pretty clear from the tape that he wasn't so much asking a question as making an attack. A reporter making an attack is not a newsman; hes a partisan.

Alfie, you make hundreds of assertions weekly and never give evidence or documentation to any of them. You're pretty gutsy, asking others to dowhat you won't.

 

[Andreus]

Andreus - no one is upset that he quoted the report - it was the conclusion HE reached and shared as if ...............

he had read the whole report

so he has this opinion (which no one needs to hear about) and he hasn't even read the report

how unprofessional

how partisan

and as with everything, it is the body of work that one is judged on

he read the words of the report and asked how they could be interpreted

politically that is a gift because it allows you to voice your opinion in contrast to another one. Snow is so inept he cant even tell when he is being set up for a response to what the entire WORLD was already thinking. he attacked the reporter instead of countering the message with real information.

and why'?

because they obviously believe the reports findings are true and they know there simply is NO defence for the presidents ineptness

 

[chance1]

he read the words of the report and asked how they could be interpreted

politically that is a gift because it allows you to voice your opinion in contrast to another one. Snow is so inept he cant even tell when he is being set up for a response to what the entire WORLD was already thinking. he attacked the reporter instead of countering the message with real information.

and why'?

because they obviously believe the reports findings are true and they know there simply is NO defence for the presidents ineptness

I must have missed the part in his job description that called for his opinion mattering? He can pitch MSNBC on a talk show or can fill in for Keith O if he wants to. His job is to ask questions, tough questions whatever.

He did not ask how they could be interpreted. He said

"Can this report be seen as anything other than a rejection of this President's handling of the war?

Andreus - be honest here - and call it what it is

and Snow "owned" him - made Gregory look teeny weeny

Gregory deserved it - started crying a bit - and Snow gave him a cookie

 

[Kulindahr]

Snow is so inept he cant even tell when he is being set up for a response to what the entire WORLD was already thinking. he attacked the reporter instead of countering the message with real information.

I went and watched it again. Snow didn't attack anyone.
He tried to give an answer, and got interrupted. When he tried to continue his explanation, he got interrupted.
His easy response at the beginning shows he was entirely ready for the question; he didn't hesitate or miss a beat.

BTW -- I see you admit that the whole point was to set him up -- normal people call that sort of thing "partisan".

 

[Andreus]

he didnt try to answer, he tried to attack the messenger without responding to the message

that is dirty politics

 

[chance1]

he didnt try to answer, he tried to attack the messenger without responding to the message

that is dirty politics

I'm gonna take that is you didn't actually watch the tape andreus

much like gregory did not read the study group's report

 

[Andreus]

actually i have access to Ap feeds

i worked for them for almost 2 years

i am sure that i saw more than you did

 

[chance1]

then your partisanship is showing

 

[Kulindahr]

I'm inclined to agree with Chance.
Snow answered -- and got interrupted. That's right there in the tape and transcript both. As he continued to attempt his answer, Gregory constantly interrupted.
If there's anything in the exchange that can be interpreted as an attack, it's the constant interruptions.
When Gregory admitted he hadn't read the whole thing, he should have shown a little humility and said, "Sorry; I didn't do my homework. But I'll be back with my question!"
Aggression, to an extent, is admirable in a reporter. But this was just rude behavior.

 

[Kulindahr]

then your partisanship is showing

What's showing is Andreus' ability to see attacks where they don't exist, and to fail to see what doesn't conform to his worldview.

As for the claim to have seen more than Chance did, are you claiming, Andreus, that the video given to us in this thread was edited? or just tossing out something for whatever reason?

 

[Andreus]

kulindahr and chance agreeing

now theres a suprise

the neocon carpet chewers of JUB. histrionics and insistance wont change the real words and interactions of the two parties

 

[Kulindahr]

Once again, Andreus, when faced with facts and with questions that show your claims to be empty, you turn to histrionics. You also show your ignorance; your filter is in perfect working order, so that you don't even see what contradicts your statements -- or you'd never make the multiple errors about Chance and I that you do above, and have so regularly.

 

[Kulindahr]

Alfie, I was responding to a post -- try to keep up, dude.

What the heck does Fox News have to do with anything? I only watch it for entertainment value, maybe once a month. What you call "Fox News talking points" show up right there in the portions you quoted: Gregory is on the attack, he won't let Snow finish a statement. When Snow tried to explain why he said Gregory was being partisan, Gregory wouldnt even let him finish a phrase. To me that's the guilty man not letting the accuser be heard.
So I was on topic with what you quoted at the top of your post, because this thread has to do with attacks on Gregory, and the more I read the transcript and listen to the tape, the more I see attacks being deserved. Fox News, if it's doing its usual thing, saw this, and attacked the entire fruit basket because there was mold on one apple -- but since I don't watch much, I don't know.

 

[chance1]

kulindahr and chance agreeing

now theres a suprise

the neocon carpet chewers of JUB. histrionics and insistance wont change the real words and interactions of the two parties

good one andreus

when u get beat on the merits of the debate, go for the weak kneed insults - "neocon carpet chewers"

Unbecoming andreus - and frankly you're becoming more and more like ........

never mind

Watch the video
Watch/listen to Gregory when he does his radio/TV schtick

It all speaks for itself

that is if you are willing to listen