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Re: Corbin Fisher
Oh, and dont believe all that garbage about the continuity. These guys get fucked before they shoot their "straight solo" scenes. Do people honestly believe these boys are straight? Dont think that these boys do their solo, go home, then come back a few weeks later when they r more comfortable with gay sex. It all happens within the same weekend. The solo scene, the oral scene, the fuck scene and not always in that sequence.
Oh, and dont believe all that garbage about the continuity. These guys get fucked before they shoot their "straight solo" scenes. Do people honestly believe these boys are straight? Dont think that these boys do their solo, go home, then come back a few weeks later when they r more comfortable with gay sex. It all happens within the same weekend. The solo scene, the oral scene, the fuck scene and not always in that sequence.
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Yeah corbin knows how to shoot movies. He is a film maker. Of course he does not fly these boys out every weekend and pay 400$ a ticket. He does multiple shotos and the boys probable stay for a for days. I bet corbin has hidden cameras in his house (studio)!!! Who agrees?
Yeah corbin knows how to shoot movies. He is a film maker. Of course he does not fly these boys out every weekend and pay 400$ a ticket. He does multiple shotos and the boys probable stay for a for days. I bet corbin has hidden cameras in his house (studio)!!! Who agrees?
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If you look at the screen with the compliance statement before the video's start you'll see the date the video was made a record of, and then if you look at a particular model, say TJ, you'll see that mutiple videos were recorded at the same time. Pay attention into particular the early solo and Best Bud videos of TJ and Ben and you'll see all the same date. The solo of Patrick and then the one with Dawson fucking Patrick were both recorded on 3/25/06. You'll see this with most new models who do several video's. When Corbin decides to show them is another story. He makes it look this way so they come out that they were done at different times to get the members interest. So the answer is yes, multiple shoots of the guys are done within a few days. Check the videos out for yourself.
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Another example is the video of Dawson fucking Logan. It was shown as a Christmas treat on 12/23/05, when in actuality it was shot 10/22/05. The sequel was shown on 1/13/06. It was recorded as shot 1/11/05(probably a typo error, more than likely was shot 1/11/06), again nothing is wrong. It makes good business sense to shoot mutiple videos. Corbin likes to hype the education progression to keep the members interested. Someone said earlier it doesn't make sense to fly these guys out every other week. Although I would presume that some of the guys work full time for CF. EX. Logan, Dawson, Lucas, and maybe Pete.
Another example is the video of Dawson fucking Logan. It was shown as a Christmas treat on 12/23/05, when in actuality it was shot 10/22/05. The sequel was shown on 1/13/06. It was recorded as shot 1/11/05(probably a typo error, more than likely was shot 1/11/06), again nothing is wrong. It makes good business sense to shoot mutiple videos. Corbin likes to hype the education progression to keep the members interested. Someone said earlier it doesn't make sense to fly these guys out every other week. Although I would presume that some of the guys work full time for CF. EX. Logan, Dawson, Lucas, and maybe Pete.
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Oh Phunk, your Upper Middle Class Liberal Bourgeoise roots are showing!!
Not everyone who lives in Iowa and goes to junior college is a working-class stiff consigned to a series of dead-end McJobs.
There are plenty of ways that Dawson could have made the money CF paid him. None of which involved getting fucked up the ass by a half dozen guys.
Bartending, construction (he's a burly guy)-- those all pay well.
What you and some others seem to have trouble grasping is that Gay "Amateur"Porn Star is not a typical career choice for a college kid. It's not like "oh, I can get a job painting houses or a job getting fucked by another guy on camera for the whole world, including future spouses and employers to see." They're clearly curious about gay sex and have a strong exhibitionist streak. As I've noted before, they just don't get paid enough for it to be anything but. And given that, as the posts just prior to this show, their "education" all takes place in the same weekend, they've agreed to get fucked well in advance. It's not like Corbin pressured them into it.
Sexuality, as you yourself have noted, is fluid-- it's not an either/or thing. And some of the guys on CF may continue to date women and maybe even marry one, but they've explored their homosexual side (on camera!) and probably will continue to explore it. But clearly they're getting something more than money out of the experience.
Now which of the guys self-identify as gay, which are still in denial and which are somewhere in between is anyone's guess. But there's a reason they're appearing on camera at CorbinFisher and that reason has nothing to do with the money they're making.
There's more truth to that statement than you could possibly imagine
Seriously, consider the case of one of the top models, who thanks to the indiscretion of one of the member of this site some of us know is anything but a Fratboy/rich kid, that he comes from a rural area, attends the local JC, probably lives with his parents, and has at least a couple of MacJobs in order to pay his tuition and have some pocket change. Corbin Fisher comes along and offers this kid enough money so he can tell Burger King to kiss off, concentrate on his studies, and improve his chances of getting his ass the hell out of East Bummfuck, KS. Given those circumstances, I could see where a straight guy would suck a dick or get fucked.
Oh Phunk, your Upper Middle Class Liberal Bourgeoise roots are showing!!
Not everyone who lives in Iowa and goes to junior college is a working-class stiff consigned to a series of dead-end McJobs.
There are plenty of ways that Dawson could have made the money CF paid him. None of which involved getting fucked up the ass by a half dozen guys.
Bartending, construction (he's a burly guy)-- those all pay well.
What you and some others seem to have trouble grasping is that Gay "Amateur"Porn Star is not a typical career choice for a college kid. It's not like "oh, I can get a job painting houses or a job getting fucked by another guy on camera for the whole world, including future spouses and employers to see." They're clearly curious about gay sex and have a strong exhibitionist streak. As I've noted before, they just don't get paid enough for it to be anything but. And given that, as the posts just prior to this show, their "education" all takes place in the same weekend, they've agreed to get fucked well in advance. It's not like Corbin pressured them into it.
Sexuality, as you yourself have noted, is fluid-- it's not an either/or thing. And some of the guys on CF may continue to date women and maybe even marry one, but they've explored their homosexual side (on camera!) and probably will continue to explore it. But clearly they're getting something more than money out of the experience.
Now which of the guys self-identify as gay, which are still in denial and which are somewhere in between is anyone's guess. But there's a reason they're appearing on camera at CorbinFisher and that reason has nothing to do with the money they're making.
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On the contrary, it was my excessive middle class circumspection which led me to believe that it was impossible for a primarily 'straight' male to perform in gay porn.
Again, it is not for us to put up signposts to these guys homes!
I don't doubt that this model applies to some of them, but not all. In fact, it has far more validity for the 'Active Duty' boys, who have so much more at stake (discharge, loss of pension, prison)
Below, please find link to a Mark Simpson blog piece re the 'gay for pay' phenomemon. He does a far better job at accounting for how primarly straight men could get themselves to do gay porn, especially ones who don't come from my hot-house suburban bourgeois background:
http://marksimpson.com/blog/2006/08/25/
I think most of CFs models are straight as advertised. And you know, this makes me sad. I'd love it if they really were queer, and I think my projections only clouded my judgement.
On the contrary, it was my excessive middle class circumspection which led me to believe that it was impossible for a primarily 'straight' male to perform in gay porn.
Again, it is not for us to put up signposts to these guys homes!
I don't doubt that this model applies to some of them, but not all. In fact, it has far more validity for the 'Active Duty' boys, who have so much more at stake (discharge, loss of pension, prison)
Below, please find link to a Mark Simpson blog piece re the 'gay for pay' phenomemon. He does a far better job at accounting for how primarly straight men could get themselves to do gay porn, especially ones who don't come from my hot-house suburban bourgeois background:
http://marksimpson.com/blog/2006/08/25/
I think most of CFs models are straight as advertised. And you know, this makes me sad. I'd love it if they really were queer, and I think my projections only clouded my judgement.
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Re: Corbin Fisher
This is just silly. Shouldn't even be debated at all..
I'm not gay, but I am willing to fuck or get fucked by another man on camera for the WORLD TO SEE. The risk is all too great...
This is just silly. Shouldn't even be debated at all..
I'm not gay, but I am willing to fuck or get fucked by another man on camera for the WORLD TO SEE. The risk is all too great...
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I read Simpson's blog. It's muddled and contradictory. And I have no idea how it applies to Corbin Fisher.
I have no doubt that many of the guys on CorbinFisher may self-identify as straight.
But it's fairly ridiculous to think that OTHER STRAIGHT GUYS and STRAIGHT WOMEN would agree with that self-assessment once they'd seen say, Dawson's fourth or fifth bottoming video.
Come on Phunk, you can't be that naive. Look at CraigsList. How many "straight" men are on there posting that they're looking for gay sex. And I'm sure, no matter how many cocks they suck, those guys all really do believe they're straight.
It's their girlfriends who'd disagree.
I read Simpson's blog. It's muddled and contradictory. And I have no idea how it applies to Corbin Fisher.
I have no doubt that many of the guys on CorbinFisher may self-identify as straight.
But it's fairly ridiculous to think that OTHER STRAIGHT GUYS and STRAIGHT WOMEN would agree with that self-assessment once they'd seen say, Dawson's fourth or fifth bottoming video.
Come on Phunk, you can't be that naive. Look at CraigsList. How many "straight" men are on there posting that they're looking for gay sex. And I'm sure, no matter how many cocks they suck, those guys all really do believe they're straight.
It's their girlfriends who'd disagree.
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First, I think the correlation between the Paratroopers and Corbin Fisher's straight models is fairly apparent.
I think Mark Simpson is very clear: these guys do what they do, and actually appear more 'homosexual' than most indentified gay men, precisely because they don't really think about it, and never have. It just doesn't mean anything to them. In a way, it's not even really sex: suck face, suck a dick -- it's all of a piece. I mean, what the fuck?
If you are going to accuse someone of being 'muddled' (in the E.M. Forster sense), and 'contradictory', please do so with specificity. The law requires that allegations be made with particularity. Otherwise, those terms are meaningless.
And I would like to take issue with a point you raised earlier: I don't think the economic opportunities for some guy working his way through college in rural America are there to anywhere near the extent you suggest. For most, I think it is a question of hobbling together McJobs, and hopefully finding time to study on the sly.
So 'Lucas' or 'Logan' get flown down to Florida a couple of times a year, 'bang out' several videos, and probably bring home a very nice piece of change for their efforts. One less night shift job to worry about. On second thought, there probably aren't a lot of night shift jobs where they come from. Just a lot of corn and cows.
First, I think the correlation between the Paratroopers and Corbin Fisher's straight models is fairly apparent.
I think Mark Simpson is very clear: these guys do what they do, and actually appear more 'homosexual' than most indentified gay men, precisely because they don't really think about it, and never have. It just doesn't mean anything to them. In a way, it's not even really sex: suck face, suck a dick -- it's all of a piece. I mean, what the fuck?
If you are going to accuse someone of being 'muddled' (in the E.M. Forster sense), and 'contradictory', please do so with specificity. The law requires that allegations be made with particularity. Otherwise, those terms are meaningless.
And I would like to take issue with a point you raised earlier: I don't think the economic opportunities for some guy working his way through college in rural America are there to anywhere near the extent you suggest. For most, I think it is a question of hobbling together McJobs, and hopefully finding time to study on the sly.
So 'Lucas' or 'Logan' get flown down to Florida a couple of times a year, 'bang out' several videos, and probably bring home a very nice piece of change for their efforts. One less night shift job to worry about. On second thought, there probably aren't a lot of night shift jobs where they come from. Just a lot of corn and cows.
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this makes mucho sense. thanks to gay video blogs posting downloadable clips, these vids - like diamonds - are forever (or at least until your hard drive crashes). and i think these boys know what they're getting into. no one's tricking them into falling ass-first onto a hard cock or accidentally popping a dick into their mouth.
they could totally work other jobs - milking cows (from what I've seen, they'd be EXPERTS at this), being farm hands, doing construction, or, maybe most fitting for these guys, landing a job at their nearby abercrombie. these boys are made to be aberzombie store sluts. and, as gay guys, we all know that here in the US, abercrombie is almost as ubiquitous as mcdonalds. "tory mason"/"adrian" apparently worked at a hollister (which is owned by the same company that runs abercrombie) in IDAHO (as in, "Welcome to Idaho. We have Potatoes.") for a few years. so the work opportunities in rural america/the-square-states aren't as sparse or limited as they may seem.
but even then, one could argue that the money from internet porn is probably better and easier to make than slaving away at some abercrombie counter hawking over-priced clothes. fine - acknowledged.
but, these guys don't have to do gay porn. they could do a scene for nextdoorhookups.com and fuck some ugly fat girl (why is that always the case?) or head over to fratmen.tv (where most of the guys are 100% straight) to do a jack-off scene.
but they head to CF anyway.
maybe the money's better at CF than the other sites... but, ask yourself this: could you, as a gay man, get hard, have sex with a girl, eat her pussy, cum on her tits, etc, all while some 40 year old fat woman tapes you doing it? that, i imagine, would be the gay correlate for a str8 guy doing CF.
if i was desperately in need of money (and i'd have to be DESPERATE), sure - i could probably do that once, with some viagra and some gay mags nearby. but, i doubt i'd ever come back for seconds... or thirds... or, for some of these guys on CF, fourths, fifths, sixths, etc...
so something's up. dawson may be more str8 than gay (in my opinion, he's more narcissistic than anything else and gets off on being an exhibitionist), but for him to fuck a guy in the brown eye, suck cock, have his hole stuffed with manmeat, cum on a guy's chest - and then come back for more - suggests more than just a slight interest in men.
besides, i remember in his scene with Cody (an infamous barebacking scene), he kept on going on about how Cody's biceps were so big and how Cody's entire body was as hard as a rock, all the while bathing his tongue over Cody's torso and arms. And then when Cody starts clamping down on his nipples (I remember this clearly because I immediately shot a load after hearing him say it), our str8/questioning/narcissistic Dawson starts squirming, looks at Cody and says, ever so lovingly, "that's the sweet spot."
um...
gay
dawson may not be a full-on 'mo, but that little exchange screams, "fagsville."
word.
kinsey's theories and sexuality scale may be bunk, but the CF boys are proof enough that gradations in sexuality exist.
this makes mucho sense. thanks to gay video blogs posting downloadable clips, these vids - like diamonds - are forever (or at least until your hard drive crashes). and i think these boys know what they're getting into. no one's tricking them into falling ass-first onto a hard cock or accidentally popping a dick into their mouth.
they could totally work other jobs - milking cows (from what I've seen, they'd be EXPERTS at this), being farm hands, doing construction, or, maybe most fitting for these guys, landing a job at their nearby abercrombie. these boys are made to be aberzombie store sluts. and, as gay guys, we all know that here in the US, abercrombie is almost as ubiquitous as mcdonalds. "tory mason"/"adrian" apparently worked at a hollister (which is owned by the same company that runs abercrombie) in IDAHO (as in, "Welcome to Idaho. We have Potatoes.") for a few years. so the work opportunities in rural america/the-square-states aren't as sparse or limited as they may seem.
but even then, one could argue that the money from internet porn is probably better and easier to make than slaving away at some abercrombie counter hawking over-priced clothes. fine - acknowledged.
but, these guys don't have to do gay porn. they could do a scene for nextdoorhookups.com and fuck some ugly fat girl (why is that always the case?) or head over to fratmen.tv (where most of the guys are 100% straight) to do a jack-off scene.
but they head to CF anyway.
maybe the money's better at CF than the other sites... but, ask yourself this: could you, as a gay man, get hard, have sex with a girl, eat her pussy, cum on her tits, etc, all while some 40 year old fat woman tapes you doing it? that, i imagine, would be the gay correlate for a str8 guy doing CF.
if i was desperately in need of money (and i'd have to be DESPERATE), sure - i could probably do that once, with some viagra and some gay mags nearby. but, i doubt i'd ever come back for seconds... or thirds... or, for some of these guys on CF, fourths, fifths, sixths, etc...
so something's up. dawson may be more str8 than gay (in my opinion, he's more narcissistic than anything else and gets off on being an exhibitionist), but for him to fuck a guy in the brown eye, suck cock, have his hole stuffed with manmeat, cum on a guy's chest - and then come back for more - suggests more than just a slight interest in men.
besides, i remember in his scene with Cody (an infamous barebacking scene), he kept on going on about how Cody's biceps were so big and how Cody's entire body was as hard as a rock, all the while bathing his tongue over Cody's torso and arms. And then when Cody starts clamping down on his nipples (I remember this clearly because I immediately shot a load after hearing him say it), our str8/questioning/narcissistic Dawson starts squirming, looks at Cody and says, ever so lovingly, "that's the sweet spot."
um...
gay
dawson may not be a full-on 'mo, but that little exchange screams, "fagsville."
word.
kinsey's theories and sexuality scale may be bunk, but the CF boys are proof enough that gradations in sexuality exist.
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also - ever notice that there are far more "who's gay on CF?" threads than "who's gay on fratmen" threads on this forum?
the biggest reason is the most obvious - none of the fratmen guys fuck each other. and when they are together (as in the alumni weekend clips), they act like and appear to be the straight, cocky guys that they are.
but i think the other reason is that - as gay men - we sense something in CF guys that we don't get from the fratmen guys. i'm not validating the existence of "gaydar," but i do think that our experiences during our more closeted youth - being the wallflower, having to observe how other men act, having to be more acutely aware of how we act so as to not let our secret slip out, etc - allow us to better detect certain mannerisms, facial features, expressions, and banter that gay men generally possess.
i'm not saying that gay guys are all cut from the same cloth - clearly that's not the case, and that's one reason i don't think "gaydar" is completely foolproof.
but, as gay guys, we've got a set of experiences - experiences unique to homosexuals coming to grips with their identity - that allow us to detect those same experiences in others...
again, not totally foolproof, but it's something.
so - take the fratmen guys - in one of the hawaii alumni reunion scenes, the guys are sitting in a circle, around the computer monitor (where i'm guessing some porn is playing), totally naked, jerking off.
potentially gay - yes.
but not with these guys.
not once do the guys look at each other with the same sense of lust that i've seen gay guys look at each other. there's very much a "locker-room, just getting our rocks off" attitude going on. nobody's commenting on how "big" another guy's muscles or how hard another guy's body is.
and after they jack off, they clean up, and call it a day. very methodical.
post-coitus: no kissing. no falling onto each other's wet bodies. no, 'wow you were amazing' etc.
typically, seeing guys jack off with no passion, no heat leaves me cold. but what works for fratmen is that these guys are so clearly straight that it fulfills the fantasy of finally seeing those hot guys in the locker room after high school gym class naked and stroking one out.
with the CF guys, what i see are masculine gay/bicurious men. what some of they say to each other before their scenes is too stupid to be scripted, and so awkward-sounding that it seems very real. and some of what they do say is very gay.
before the brent-lucas scene, after the obligatory pussy talk, brent goes on and on about how big lucas is and how lucas is "the best one" - and then he goes to work giving lucas a tongue bath.
you'd never see something like that on fratmen.
during the outtakes from the lucas and dawson bi-tag team, lucas keeps on talking about how much bigger dawson is, how much more weight dawson can bench than he can. sure, not gay-banter, per se... but, it made me wonder, 'why is lucas acting like such a pussy?'
but then i realized - he's doing something that i'd probably do: be self-deprecating and talk about how another guy is better me. why? because he likes dawson's body, he wants dawson's body, he worships dawson's body, and he wants to let dawson know that, in not so obvious terms. i know other gay guys who do the same thing.
i'm not trying to promote stereotypes or make gross over-generalizations. i realize that there is no one way to define any demographic... but, with that said, you'd have to agree that, on the whole, straight guys are more likely to one-up each other, to meet one arrogant comment with another arrogant comment. in one part of the hawaii alumni reunion clip, the guys take turns showing off their biceps and bodies, and there's very much a non-verbal "one-upping" thing going on between the guys - and it's not at all sexual.
and let's look at the guys physical attributes for a moment -
dawson's the best example - his facial features - nicely plucked eyebrows, boyish face. and very pretty-looking, almost feminine (as in, maybe he was exposed to a good amount of estrogen in the womb). i remember when i first saw him, i thought, "gay circuit boy."
TJ (i think it's TJ) also has a very "way-too-clean-to-be-straight" face - nicely coiffed, spiked up hair, pretty-looking etc.
compare these boys to a fratmen guy, who's more naturally athletic-looking (not so much gym-muscled-out), scruffier, not as pretty-looking, and not as worried about his appearance - the kind of straight guy that i lusted after in high school.
lucas definitely has a more "straight fratboy" look, but he cancels that out with his gay-comments and actions (eg, having to put dawson's limp dick in his mouth in order to cum in their bi tag team scene)
i guess what i'm saying is that we're probably questioning the CF guys over and over again because a part of us knows that they have to be gay to some extent ... and not just because they fuck other guys.
we see how they talk, how they act, how they interact with other guys, what they do and who they look at while they're climaxing... small things - and we find something vaguely familiar about those things - and it's most likely because we've seen those same things in ourselves.
when i jack off watching fratmen guys, i can shoot a load despite the lack of heat, the lack of "passion," the lack of a sexual partner in the scene because i know they're athletic, straight guys. and that fulfills a high school fantasy.
when i jack off to CF guys, i shoot a load not because of what they identify as (gay vs straight) - their sexuality almost becomes irrelevant.
i shoot a load because of what they're doing: having awesome gay sex.
also - ever notice that there are far more "who's gay on CF?" threads than "who's gay on fratmen" threads on this forum?
the biggest reason is the most obvious - none of the fratmen guys fuck each other. and when they are together (as in the alumni weekend clips), they act like and appear to be the straight, cocky guys that they are.
but i think the other reason is that - as gay men - we sense something in CF guys that we don't get from the fratmen guys. i'm not validating the existence of "gaydar," but i do think that our experiences during our more closeted youth - being the wallflower, having to observe how other men act, having to be more acutely aware of how we act so as to not let our secret slip out, etc - allow us to better detect certain mannerisms, facial features, expressions, and banter that gay men generally possess.
i'm not saying that gay guys are all cut from the same cloth - clearly that's not the case, and that's one reason i don't think "gaydar" is completely foolproof.
but, as gay guys, we've got a set of experiences - experiences unique to homosexuals coming to grips with their identity - that allow us to detect those same experiences in others...
again, not totally foolproof, but it's something.
so - take the fratmen guys - in one of the hawaii alumni reunion scenes, the guys are sitting in a circle, around the computer monitor (where i'm guessing some porn is playing), totally naked, jerking off.
potentially gay - yes.
but not with these guys.
not once do the guys look at each other with the same sense of lust that i've seen gay guys look at each other. there's very much a "locker-room, just getting our rocks off" attitude going on. nobody's commenting on how "big" another guy's muscles or how hard another guy's body is.
and after they jack off, they clean up, and call it a day. very methodical.
post-coitus: no kissing. no falling onto each other's wet bodies. no, 'wow you were amazing' etc.
typically, seeing guys jack off with no passion, no heat leaves me cold. but what works for fratmen is that these guys are so clearly straight that it fulfills the fantasy of finally seeing those hot guys in the locker room after high school gym class naked and stroking one out.
with the CF guys, what i see are masculine gay/bicurious men. what some of they say to each other before their scenes is too stupid to be scripted, and so awkward-sounding that it seems very real. and some of what they do say is very gay.
before the brent-lucas scene, after the obligatory pussy talk, brent goes on and on about how big lucas is and how lucas is "the best one" - and then he goes to work giving lucas a tongue bath.
you'd never see something like that on fratmen.
during the outtakes from the lucas and dawson bi-tag team, lucas keeps on talking about how much bigger dawson is, how much more weight dawson can bench than he can. sure, not gay-banter, per se... but, it made me wonder, 'why is lucas acting like such a pussy?'
but then i realized - he's doing something that i'd probably do: be self-deprecating and talk about how another guy is better me. why? because he likes dawson's body, he wants dawson's body, he worships dawson's body, and he wants to let dawson know that, in not so obvious terms. i know other gay guys who do the same thing.
i'm not trying to promote stereotypes or make gross over-generalizations. i realize that there is no one way to define any demographic... but, with that said, you'd have to agree that, on the whole, straight guys are more likely to one-up each other, to meet one arrogant comment with another arrogant comment. in one part of the hawaii alumni reunion clip, the guys take turns showing off their biceps and bodies, and there's very much a non-verbal "one-upping" thing going on between the guys - and it's not at all sexual.
and let's look at the guys physical attributes for a moment -
dawson's the best example - his facial features - nicely plucked eyebrows, boyish face. and very pretty-looking, almost feminine (as in, maybe he was exposed to a good amount of estrogen in the womb). i remember when i first saw him, i thought, "gay circuit boy."
TJ (i think it's TJ) also has a very "way-too-clean-to-be-straight" face - nicely coiffed, spiked up hair, pretty-looking etc.
compare these boys to a fratmen guy, who's more naturally athletic-looking (not so much gym-muscled-out), scruffier, not as pretty-looking, and not as worried about his appearance - the kind of straight guy that i lusted after in high school.
lucas definitely has a more "straight fratboy" look, but he cancels that out with his gay-comments and actions (eg, having to put dawson's limp dick in his mouth in order to cum in their bi tag team scene)
i guess what i'm saying is that we're probably questioning the CF guys over and over again because a part of us knows that they have to be gay to some extent ... and not just because they fuck other guys.
we see how they talk, how they act, how they interact with other guys, what they do and who they look at while they're climaxing... small things - and we find something vaguely familiar about those things - and it's most likely because we've seen those same things in ourselves.
when i jack off watching fratmen guys, i can shoot a load despite the lack of heat, the lack of "passion," the lack of a sexual partner in the scene because i know they're athletic, straight guys. and that fulfills a high school fantasy.
when i jack off to CF guys, i shoot a load not because of what they identify as (gay vs straight) - their sexuality almost becomes irrelevant.
i shoot a load because of what they're doing: having awesome gay sex.
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i thought i'd link to some visual support
these are actually on the justusboys eyecandy page, but - moderators - if this ain't kosher, feel free to remove the links and post
just look at how pretty and how well-moisturized TJ's face is. plus, his eyebrows are way too well groomed. maybe he's just a straight metrosexual and has dry skin.
i say, 'mo.
http://justusboys.com/reviews/ec_image_8_1695.jpg
i just thought i'd link to this, just for kicks. logan's amazed expression is priceless.
http://justusboys.com/reviews/ec_image_9_1695.jpg
i thought i'd link to some visual support
these are actually on the justusboys eyecandy page, but - moderators - if this ain't kosher, feel free to remove the links and post
just look at how pretty and how well-moisturized TJ's face is. plus, his eyebrows are way too well groomed. maybe he's just a straight metrosexual and has dry skin.
i say, 'mo.
http://justusboys.com/reviews/ec_image_8_1695.jpg
i just thought i'd link to this, just for kicks. logan's amazed expression is priceless.
http://justusboys.com/reviews/ec_image_9_1695.jpg
Re: Corbin Fisher
Thank you DAV242.
Not sure what Phunk's deal is- whether he works for CF in some capacity or if he's just unhealthily obsessed with the guys on there, but he's got every lame rationalization under the sun for why those guys are straight.
As I've said before, it all boils down to this: A guy like Dawson may tell himself he's straight, but show his filmography to any actual straight guy or girl and after the fourth or fifth bottoming video, they're going to be laughing in his face when he tells them he's straight.
PS: While I hear you about the "oh your biceps are big" lines, I don't discount the idea that some if not most of those are scripted by Corbin. Or that the guys are groomed by him or his stylists- wonder how many of them actually trim their chests or pubes IRL. Magic of film-making and all that. But your Fratmen vs CF point is well-taken. There was a reason a Dawson or a Lucas went to an operation where they'd be having frequent gay sex vs one where all they had to do was jerk off. And an extra $5K isn't a reason.
Thank you DAV242.
Not sure what Phunk's deal is- whether he works for CF in some capacity or if he's just unhealthily obsessed with the guys on there, but he's got every lame rationalization under the sun for why those guys are straight.
As I've said before, it all boils down to this: A guy like Dawson may tell himself he's straight, but show his filmography to any actual straight guy or girl and after the fourth or fifth bottoming video, they're going to be laughing in his face when he tells them he's straight.
PS: While I hear you about the "oh your biceps are big" lines, I don't discount the idea that some if not most of those are scripted by Corbin. Or that the guys are groomed by him or his stylists- wonder how many of them actually trim their chests or pubes IRL. Magic of film-making and all that. But your Fratmen vs CF point is well-taken. There was a reason a Dawson or a Lucas went to an operation where they'd be having frequent gay sex vs one where all they had to do was jerk off. And an extra $5K isn't a reason.
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So true.
They would actually may think he needs help
As I've said before this debate is silly. Those who believe this crap really need to step into the real world. No str8 man is going to have sex with another man ON CAMERA. The thought of it is just too laughable.
So true.
They would actually may think he needs help
As I've said before this debate is silly. Those who believe this crap really need to step into the real world. No str8 man is going to have sex with another man ON CAMERA. The thought of it is just too laughable.
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The Nick and Derek vid is pretty hot. Nick looks fantastic and Derek, who I don't think I've seen before) looks pretty good too!
Nick and Dawson, though, in a flip flop. Or a 3-way with Lucas or Logan. In fact, in a fourway with Lucas and Logan. No, actually, too much to look at there.
I'll go for a shower now
Nick and Dawson, though, in a flip flop. Or a 3-way with Lucas or Logan. In fact, in a fourway with Lucas and Logan. No, actually, too much to look at there.
I'll go for a shower now
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haha - yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if phunk works for CF. he seems to know alot about the guys. maybe he's one of the models.
wait, maybe he's logan.
i don't mind him defending the CF boys' "straight" reputation, though. it gives all of us something to "debate" about, endlessly, for years to come. and that's a joy that i surely would hate to have taken away.
besides, i'm sure we all find phunk's zeal to be endearing, and his $12 words kinda sexy.
right on! you're my hero, uws.
you also have to wonder how these guys found employment on the site in the first place. did they just randomly stumble across corbinfisher while they were looking for pussy pics on the internet?
in the end, gay straight whatever. they can call themselves what they want. just as long as they keep fucking other guys and producing those cum shots, i'm one happy camper.
haha - yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if phunk works for CF. he seems to know alot about the guys. maybe he's one of the models.
wait, maybe he's logan.
i don't mind him defending the CF boys' "straight" reputation, though. it gives all of us something to "debate" about, endlessly, for years to come. and that's a joy that i surely would hate to have taken away.
besides, i'm sure we all find phunk's zeal to be endearing, and his $12 words kinda sexy.
right on! you're my hero, uws.
you also have to wonder how these guys found employment on the site in the first place. did they just randomly stumble across corbinfisher while they were looking for pussy pics on the internet?
in the end, gay straight whatever. they can call themselves what they want. just as long as they keep fucking other guys and producing those cum shots, i'm one happy camper.
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Re: Corbin Fisher
I have heard that CF gets some of there guys through my space, running into people on the street or through the other models.
While this topic has been beaten to death I have to say that you'd have to be naive to think all these guys are straight. Some of the guys maybe but not all. Why would a straight guy have sex with another guy? There is the money aspect of it and there is also the factor that these guys seem to be turned on by the fact they are being watched. Plus they wouldnt do scene after scene if there wasnt some kind of pleasure involved even though they'd probably prefer a woman. Also some are just curious and expermenting which has been stated before.
With that said there is no doubt that there is some gay models on the site that get marketed as straight while the more obvious ones are labled gay. Websites like CF have gotten caught on a few occassions with past models thought to be straight popping up on falcon and other films admitting to be gay.
I have heard that CF gets some of there guys through my space, running into people on the street or through the other models.
While this topic has been beaten to death I have to say that you'd have to be naive to think all these guys are straight. Some of the guys maybe but not all. Why would a straight guy have sex with another guy? There is the money aspect of it and there is also the factor that these guys seem to be turned on by the fact they are being watched. Plus they wouldnt do scene after scene if there wasnt some kind of pleasure involved even though they'd probably prefer a woman. Also some are just curious and expermenting which has been stated before.
With that said there is no doubt that there is some gay models on the site that get marketed as straight while the more obvious ones are labled gay. Websites like CF have gotten caught on a few occassions with past models thought to be straight popping up on falcon and other films admitting to be gay.
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First, there's no reason to degenerate into argumentum ad hominum. By calling my 'arguments' (which they are not) 'lame' -- again without specificity -- you are only acknowledging that there must be something to my point.
I don't know why so many of you have a hard time accepting that straight men do gay porn? Nobody wanted 'Lucas', 'Logan', 'Trevor' or 'Logan' to be gay more than I, and for the longest time I thought they must be based exclusively on what I saw them do on film. However, the more I delved into the whole 'gay for pay' phenomenon, the more I realized that most of these guys were probably straight as advertised. I don't think we're going to see 'Dawson' dancing shirtless at Roxy or joining 'AJ'/Blu on the bar at Boysroom anytime soon.
Some of you have mentioned former models with pages on MySpace. One of those told me that filming with 'Dawson' took forever because he constantly needed to take five and look at pussy porn to maintain his erection (also that he was an incredibly nice guy). His 'money shot' took at least 20 minutes. Boy, that really sounds pretty 'gay' to me
The following is not an argument, it is a well known fact: the majority of perfomers in gay porn, not just Corbin Fisher, are straight men. I recall reading an interview with George Duroy where he said it was just easier work with straight guys. They do what they are told, take direction well, and have fun, because it really doesn't mean anything to them: no 'feelings' for each other, or jealosy. Hell, Johan Paulik even took his girlfriend along on a shoot he did in Spain!
And I don't want to hear any BS about 'different' European attitudes towards sex and sexuality. Trust me, they ain't that different! I've lived there.
As the paratrooper told that outraged southern lady "It was really nothing, ma'am . . . I got paid."
And I have not said that I think they are all straight. Neither, for that matter do Corbin Fisher or Dink Flamingo. There are definitely guys who want to model because they are either curious or closeted. The Corbin Fisher models about whom I have suspicions include Brent (probably gay), Cade, Ryan, and possibly Cody/Andy Honda, and Tevor.
I will say nothing of TJ's orientation until I have figured out if he's actually alive. However, I do agree with the entry above that he's suspiciously well put together (I'm sure Mark Simpson would love that you used his term 'metrosexual'
)
First, there's no reason to degenerate into argumentum ad hominum. By calling my 'arguments' (which they are not) 'lame' -- again without specificity -- you are only acknowledging that there must be something to my point.
I don't know why so many of you have a hard time accepting that straight men do gay porn? Nobody wanted 'Lucas', 'Logan', 'Trevor' or 'Logan' to be gay more than I, and for the longest time I thought they must be based exclusively on what I saw them do on film. However, the more I delved into the whole 'gay for pay' phenomenon, the more I realized that most of these guys were probably straight as advertised. I don't think we're going to see 'Dawson' dancing shirtless at Roxy or joining 'AJ'/Blu on the bar at Boysroom anytime soon.
Some of you have mentioned former models with pages on MySpace. One of those told me that filming with 'Dawson' took forever because he constantly needed to take five and look at pussy porn to maintain his erection (also that he was an incredibly nice guy). His 'money shot' took at least 20 minutes. Boy, that really sounds pretty 'gay' to me
The following is not an argument, it is a well known fact: the majority of perfomers in gay porn, not just Corbin Fisher, are straight men. I recall reading an interview with George Duroy where he said it was just easier work with straight guys. They do what they are told, take direction well, and have fun, because it really doesn't mean anything to them: no 'feelings' for each other, or jealosy. Hell, Johan Paulik even took his girlfriend along on a shoot he did in Spain!
And I don't want to hear any BS about 'different' European attitudes towards sex and sexuality. Trust me, they ain't that different! I've lived there.
As the paratrooper told that outraged southern lady "It was really nothing, ma'am . . . I got paid."
And I have not said that I think they are all straight. Neither, for that matter do Corbin Fisher or Dink Flamingo. There are definitely guys who want to model because they are either curious or closeted. The Corbin Fisher models about whom I have suspicions include Brent (probably gay), Cade, Ryan, and possibly Cody/Andy Honda, and Tevor.
I will say nothing of TJ's orientation until I have figured out if he's actually alive. However, I do agree with the entry above that he's suspiciously well put together (I'm sure Mark Simpson would love that you used his term 'metrosexual'
)
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The early videos, back when most of the models were gay, were shot in the midwest. While he has since moved his operation to Florida, I think this is where most of his 'core' models come from. So my guess is that he just scouted them out on college campuses. 'Logan' he hijacked from 'Fratmen' (a.k.a. 'Wes')
Very well put.
Corbin Fisher insists that Mason and Damon presented represented themselves to him as being straight. There could be some truth to that: wouldn't you lie for an opportunity to play with Lucas or, as in Mason's case, get the shit fucked out of you by Cade? Mason tips his hand in the middle of that video when he says 'I've never been fucked by a dick this big before!' (obviously prior to his encounter with Ralph Woods
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The early videos, back when most of the models were gay, were shot in the midwest. While he has since moved his operation to Florida, I think this is where most of his 'core' models come from. So my guess is that he just scouted them out on college campuses. 'Logan' he hijacked from 'Fratmen' (a.k.a. 'Wes')
Very well put.
Corbin Fisher insists that Mason and Damon presented represented themselves to him as being straight. There could be some truth to that: wouldn't you lie for an opportunity to play with Lucas or, as in Mason's case, get the shit fucked out of you by Cade? Mason tips his hand in the middle of that video when he says 'I've never been fucked by a dick this big before!' (obviously prior to his encounter with Ralph Woods
)