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Nope, they are a Russian tortoise and a Hermann's tortoise
Here the russian is chilling in his jacuzzi
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You know, any aquatic creature shouldn't be removed from its tank while you clean it, and you should never clean their entire tank in one go. I've kept fish for ~10 years now and this is one of the biggest mistakes new fishkeepers make (this along with not cycling their tanks and usually overstocking). You use a gravel siphon and only drain about 25% of a tank's water in one go. Do not siphon the entire gravel, only siphon about half of it per water change, and siphon the other half on the other go. Same goes with filter maintenance, you never clean it all in one go as this will probably kill off all your beneficial bacteria.One more with pets
Curious tortoise has a look at the Axolotl whose tank is being cleaned.
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Some guys are like this tooThere are many fish that are exclusively bottom
There are other fish that are purely at the top and will NEVER leave the surface of the water.
Neither are aquatic snails, aquatic shrimp, aquatic plants, aquatic live rocks, but they come into the same hobby. So don't give me thatSo I'll say it again: They are no fish.

Depends on the snail in question really, and most snails are easier to care for than fish. And I know there are differences in fish, but that doesn't change the fact that an Axolotl is an aquatic creature and it's care falls under the category of fish keeping. So saying "it's not a fish" doesn't matter, lol.And the conditions that snails can tolerate are quite different then those that fish can cope with. Even amongst fish, there are vast differences. Just because you own something that's in a tank, too - it doesn't make you an expert on everything else living in a tank.
