Countering The Churches Of Hate

[metta]

Countering The Churches Of Hate

Many churches have used the marriage issue to manipulate their flock into sticking together for a cause for reasons that are just nonsense. It has worked well for them and I don't think that we have found an effective solution to deal with this.

If we could develop an effective marketing campaign that would encourage their flock to leave to churches that do nto support bigotry, we would be hurting these churches to what they truly care about.....money and power. If the issue gets turned around with their flock, they will begin to quiet down since it would not work for them any more.

What kind of effective campaign can we create that will result pin people changing churches? Please remember that most churches are already hurting right now with the way the economy is right now. It might not take that much more to really get them to stop pushing people to be bigots.

I don't think that it would work to try and make everyone atheists. Some people are just wired to believe in a God.


1. We need people to realize that choosing a church is a choice and they don't have to belong to one that teaches hate. That those teachings are not accurate and are just manipulate and hateful.

2. We need to make it easy for people to find alternatives.

3. We need to show people that they are always welcome to join a church that is loving, caring, and compassionate.


What do you think?

 

[metta]

I think that the campaign should be focused on the loudest opposition: Catholic Churches, Mormon Churches, and Born Again Christians. Once that works, then it can be expanded. It would not be good to spread resources out too thinly.

 

[ChickenGuy]

Metta, I once opened a thread in the Religion section about the Protestant denominations in the USA (because I didn't know much about the subject). It seems that most of them (Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran etc.) are split into mainstream and evangelical branches. The mainstream churches have a higher attendance in the liberal New England states.

I've always thought that there was an opportunity there for a constructive dialogue between open-minded people on both sides - agnostics, non-religious, mildly religious - maybe there could be progress with church leaders and congregations from these denominations.

The numbers are interesting. Here's the thread I made:

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=284500

 

[hotb0d]

I believe tackling such a topic is hard, spirituality is like water for the human's mind. And for us to come up with a solution to change people's belief will undoubtedly bring backlashes from those people. Can it be done? I don't know but I would like to give what I think is not a solution, but a recommendation.

Stage 1: Bring doubt
For us to change someone's belief, we must first shake their belief foundation first. How do we do this? Well we should start correcting people that the Jesus on the crucifix that they're staring at is too white to really be Jesus. Bring in records to show that the Bible was written by men. Another thing we have to consider is the range in age of the people we want to change. Younger kids are easy. It's my own personal preference but I think we should make kids take philosophy, ethnic studies classes and get them to really understand the world they are living in. But we then run into a problem of the null curriculum. This country is overrun by Christianity and thieves and why would they admit their wrongdoings and change the education system? As for the older people, they were taught to do the right things, be moral well then time to slap them with a cold water of reality. Bring hard evidences of their ancestors' wrongdoings and what they are doing wrong themselves. Bring forth the problems that reside at the edge of their awareness right to their face.

Stage 2: Bring guilt
In accordance with stage I, time to make them feel the pain that their way of life is hurting other people. If that don't work, shame them! Use their own teaching against them. Make them feel responsible.

Stage 3: Reconciliation
It's impossible for us to erase a system of belief that has been around for thousand of years. What we can do is point out the weakness of their belief and bring in other beliefs that can mend their weakness. And with that, we can hopefully evolve together as a society to a more unified and positive belief system

that's my nonsense read it and enjoy lol.

 

[frankfrank]

why just churches ?

add temples and mosques

I'll sometimes use the word "churches" as a generic term which applies to ALL houses of worship - including mosques, temples, synagogues, pagodas, kivas, etc.

 

[RationalLunacy]

why just churches ?

add temples and mosques

...and Kingdom Halls.

 

[Txgoodoldboy]

1. We need people to realize that choosing a church is a choice and they don't have to belong to one that teaches hate. That those teachings are not accurate and are just manipulate and hateful.

2. We need to make it easy for people to find alternatives.

3. We need to show people that they are always welcome to join a church that is loving, caring, and compassionate.


What do you think?

Hell, yes. If a church isn't preaching love, it is anti-christian.

 

[Looking4Fun2009]

I believe tackling such a topic is hard, spirituality is like water for the human's mind. And for us to come up with a solution to change people's belief will undoubtedly bring backlashes from those people. Can it be done? I don't know but I would like to give what I think is not a solution, but a recommendation.

Stage 1: Bring doubt
For us to change someone's belief, we must first shake their belief foundation first. How do we do this? Well we should start correcting people that the Jesus on the crucifix that they're staring at is too white to really be Jesus. Bring in records to show that the Bible was written by men. Another thing we have to consider is the range in age of the people we want to change. Younger kids are easy. It's my own personal preference but I think we should make kids take philosophy, ethnic studies classes and get them to really understand the world they are living in. But we then run into a problem of the null curriculum. This country is overrun by Christianity and thieves and why would they admit their wrongdoings and change the education system? As for the older people, they were taught to do the right things, be moral well then time to slap them with a cold water of reality. Bring hard evidences of their ancestors' wrongdoings and what they are doing wrong themselves. Bring forth the problems that reside at the edge of their awareness right to their face.

Stage 2: Bring guilt
In accordance with stage I, time to make them feel the pain that their way of life is hurting other people. If that don't work, shame them! Use their own teaching against them. Make them feel responsible.

Stage 3: Reconciliation
It's impossible for us to erase a system of belief that has been around for thousand of years. What we can do is point out the weakness of their belief and bring in other beliefs that can mend their weakness. And with that, we can hopefully evolve together as a society to a more unified and positive belief system

that's my nonsense read it and enjoy lol.

Why do we want to attack Christianity itself, or to get people to doubt their Faith, what about other LGBT Christians?.

I think the goal should be to get more and more people to liberal Churches (or Mosques, Synagogues (there are more and more of the latter around), or whatever religion you belong too.