Curious about the iPhone

[Glafna]

This is to all of you iPhone users down in the states, I'm just curious about your opinions, complaints, and praises, of the iPhone, so I'll be know what to expect, albeit partially, when it comes up north.

 

[Kins123]

Also, O2 havnt released any information on how capped the unlimited data use is by the fair usage policy, but rumors are suggesting it is only going to be limited to a petty 600 meg.

Actually, they have. The fair use policy is 1400 pages per day.

Source: http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/18/live-from-apples-mum-is-no-longer-the-word-event-in-london/

10:24 - Q: What's the contract length, and does unlimited usage truly mean unlimited?

Matthew: "18 months contract. There is a limit: 1,400 internet pages per day would break the deal as part of fair usage agreement."

 

[Glafna]

Thx for the input everyone.

themuseboy, I was just wondering at the memory capability for the music/photos, and if you can do videos with it as well.

Cum_Slave, the pricing is why it hasn't been released in Canada yet, Rogers are cheap assholes, and I'm guessing At&T learned it's lesson, and gotten complaints, when it released in the UK. What AT&T needs to do is release an AT&T Canada and Europe, so that everyone gets the good deals.

 

[Apollo]

This is to all of you iPhone users down in the states, I'm just curious about your opinions, complaints, and praises, of the iPhone, so I'll be know what to expect, albeit partially, when it comes up north.

I wouldn't know anything about it. but dont listen to Cum_Slave either, cause he knows just as little about how the phone actually works in day to day life to.

 

[Apollo]

Hey, I know enough not to spend £269 on one at ridiculous tariffs lol. People that do/will buy them in the UK are pure dumbasses.

Look at the UK prices and yes I know plenty of how 'well' the phone works compared to the 'better' alternatives. But i'm not going there again.

Steve is a pure jackass in the UK presentation. His answers to the questions given are more retarted then what a 10 year old school kid would give. The comment on the 2MP camera just about sums it all up.

The N95 is still the top selling phone in the UK, just about everyone that wants the latest and most up to date phone have one, while plenty others like me are waiting for the K850i. The I-phone has no place in the UK at its prices. It wont be able to compete.

No one is going to 'downgrade' from an N95 or K850i to an I-phone.

Dont just take my word for it, heres the discussion

iPhone on O2 is a rip-off

It is well known, talked about, and joked on how Steve Jobs is a arrogant person. And no one debates that he isnt a brilliant leader at Apple. He has done more to make that company amazing than any other CEO in it's history.

You may think that the iPhone won't sell well in the UK because you like to buy and read about SE and Nokia phones, and think they are the most brilliant hardware because they are bundled with lots of apps. And a lot of people want more third pary apps on the iPhone, no debate there.

But the the simple facts are that Steve Jobs knows how to market his products, no matter what country, and WILL be successful in the UK and Europe as a whole. That's one of the reasons he is so arrogant, he knows how to sell a product. and do it in style.

Also, I think it is funny that Nokia is developing a phone that even they say will be a near copy of the iPhone because they even recognize how important the phone is.

 

[Apollo]

oh, and the 3G iPhone will be coming out in 2008.

 

[Soilwork]

I love my iPhone. Best phone I've ever had, although it DOES have some short-comings.

it's got amazing video quality and great sound. It plays all my iTunes music.

I love the way it works and i REALLY like that I can edit my ring-tones.

I love how it syncs with my computer, the way that it allows me to keep all my notes and emails with me all the time.

I can take pictures while I'm on set with the Fratmen then jsut plug it into my laptop and it syncs with iPhoto and can incorporate them into my blog in about 6 seconds.

the Fratmen take pictures at the Fratpad with them, drop by my office and plug into my comptuer and it just drops into it's own folder in iPhoto.

Yes, I know.. a few people who think they know stuff are so violently against them that you'd think they have some kind of lame-ass personal vendetta.

But you'd REALLY have to be a loser to actually have a vendetta against a cell phone.

 

[Kins123]

You dont know how the UK market or how phone prices work over here.

Neither do you by the sounds of it.

There are very few people that will be interested in buying the I-phone over here, by few I mean apple fan boys like you.

Yes. You believe that. You seem to be in your own little world and have absolutely no idea what people actually want. Only what you want.

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Back to topic.

My advice would be to find some reviews of the iPhone from people who actually have an iPhone, opposed to people who just bash it for no reason. Technology reporters like David Pogue have all done reviews on the iPhone.

 

[Soilwork]

I said in my blog, not for Fratmen.

 

[Soilwork]

cum-slave, you know, I'll tell you.. you kinda sound like Anne Coulter when asked to make an honest statement about Hillary Clinton. You try kinda hard to sound like you know what you're talking about and like you're not injecting your own extreme opinons but in the end, you come across like those crazy women-done-wrong on Jerry Springer.

Yes yes.. I know.. you like your little phone better and are worried that the iPhone might be a big hit and make you.. um... untredy, I guess. I still can figure out the zeal with which you attack the iPhone in every thread about it.

But in the end, people like what they like and I like my iPhone. All the complaining about how expensive it is just rolls off my back.. I spend about as much in Cigars every month. I like how easily it's integrated with my computer and other Apple products and I like how it fits in my hand. I like the buttonless interface and I like how it fits in my pocket and after months of abuse doesn't have a single scratch on it.

And the fact that it bugs you SO much that I like it makes it even more fun.

 

[Soilwork]

Oh I read your posts... but they just all sound the same. you jump up and down throwing a temper tantrum about the things the iPhone can't do yet.

I've NEVER said it was perfect and I've also said that as a 1.0, it's got a lot of progression to make. But it'll make it, and I'm fine with that.

I'm sure your life is better becuase of your oh-so superior phone. I really am. And that's why I kinda feel sorry for you.

 

[Kins123]

Why do you keep on going about "most people" you seem to have no idea what most people want. What were the iPhone numbers again? 1,000,000 in 74 days. Oh yeah, no one wants an iPhone do they!

 

[Apollo]

Firstly apple dont actually allow you to use third party apps on the I phone. Using them is a gamble like unlocking it is.

Secondly its not what I think, or what an apple fan boy like you thinks, but what the public in the UK thinks.

READ THE GODDAMN DISCUSSION

You dont know how the UK market or how phone prices work over here. Customers have never had to pay this much for a phone on a contract before, never mind one that is so poorly specified.

Also 3G is pretty much in high demand. Mobile broadband useage is currently booming in the UK, with more and more people using their mobile phone as their modem.

N95 is £19.99 on £35 a month with 900 minutes or 1800 texts (500 minutes and 800 texts if you split them), and is the best selling phone of the year here.

K850i is released in a weeks time, its preorder sim-free prices are lower then the N95 so it will likely be free on this tariff.

I-phone is £269 on £35 a month for 200 minutes and 200 texts and released in November. People that are rich enough to afford one already have an N95. People that cant afford one wont be buying one, and people simply looking for the best tariff definately wont be buying one. There are very few people that will be interested in buying the I-phone over here, by few I mean apple fan boys like you.



3G and HSDPA arent apps that can be added by software. A 5 MP camera with Xennon flash isnt an app that can be added by software. Expandable memory and removable batteries arent apps. GPS isnt an app, neither is a built in accelerometer, nor is the mineral glass screen.

Ok the the I phone has a touch screen. and.... erm..... it its bigger. Thats it.

HELLO! Second generation iPhone. Get with the picture man. The 3G iPhones will be the second gen phones.

 

[Apollo]

You fail to understand about phone availability in different countries.

The I-phone sold 1,000,000 in the US, where 3G isnt widely used and at the time of the I-phones release it was the most advanced handset released there. They didnt have the Nokia N95 in America, not even the SE K800i. With little competition, the I-phone flew off the shelves and yes it was better then the competiotion - Motorolla.

In europe however, the best selling phone this year has been the N95, and there are many more people lining up to get the SE K850i then there ever will be for the I-phone here.

Consumers that have already bought an N95 and will be buying a K850i will have absolutely no interest in buying the I-phone. They already have a better phone, for cheaper, on a much better contract. There is a very small consumer base left in Europe for the I-phone to reach (those people would be the dumb people that just buy things that look pretty).

I believe I've made my point, lets just wait untill the I-phone is released and becomes a complete failure in Europe.

Also no one really cares about the I phone 2. It isnt out yet, and when it is released, current I-phone customers will still only be halfway through their contracts and unable to upgrade to one. Even by the time it is released, the other mobile phone manufacturers will be way ahead of apple. Why wait untill 2008 for a 3G I phone when we already have 3G handsets available?

America has to be the worst market in the world for comparing Mobile phone sales, not just because of the I-phone, but also because of all the garbage Motorolla phones that were such a big success there. The market seems to be way behind the rest of the world.

Cum_Slave, I will begin to believe what you say when you show me a degree in economics. You act like I do with something. If I don't like it, than no other European will either. Yes you have phone variety, so do Americans (although you'll talk about our lack of technological knowledge of whats "better") yet you know nothing of customer wants and needs.

You did bring in that forum, but really now. That is a small group of people who probably wasn't going to buy one and share your same views.

When you conduct a survey of a VAST majority of your UK men than maybe I will believe what you say about people wanting that Nokia whatever phone.

and again, I repeat. Nokia is going to make a carbon copy phone almost exactly like the iPhone because even THEY, the almighty Nokia, likes the iPhone and how it works.

I also like how you keep running off facts like the 5MP camera with something flash and this and that.

 

[Apollo]

I have to agree with certain points in your argument CS.

When lived in the states I was quite amazed at how 'backward' some technology was. Most homes didn't have electric kettles and many were still using washer/tumble drier combo machines that had been replaced here in Ireland many years beforehand by far more advanced machines.

Televisions were also around 5 or more years behind in most of the homes I visited - and no they weren't all 'trailer trash' people I was hanging out with.

They are more advanced in other ways though - they had free local calling many many years before us, they had the Blackberry long before us, also they had Space Shuttles long before us too - actually we still haven't got any Space Shuttles. Have any Brits or Irish walked on the moon yet?

People tend to like to keep their stuff longer than a year or so. Most people prefer to keep it for long periods of time. We don't randomly run out and buy the latest greatest thing. It's sometimes because we don't have enough money, or just don't feel the need for it.

If you want to see the latest and greatest technologies in American homes, find a rich person.

 

[Apollo]

Now now Jake Gyllenhaal's BF - I was giving you an under-handed compliment.

I think Americans concentrate on things like cars and stuff like that whereas here in Ireland everything is local and we tend to walk to the shops (store to you) and get the bus to anything further so we spend money on home appliances (or at least we did until this Celtic Tiger thing happened). My family was quite poor but we saved and borrowed to buy modern home appliances - a car wasn't even on our list of priorities.

Also, cultural differences dictate certain things - like we drink a lot of tea over here so an electric kettle is essential. Then there's geographic and weather considerations - like it rains a lot here so tumble driers just had to be bought.

The Brits (along with the French) built the best commercial plane ever - Concorde. The Americans have the Blackbird (I have a pic of me standing by one of those) and the Shuttle and the Moon landings and lots of other BIG stuff. All I'm saying is that you guys seem to concentrate on the bigger stuff - it's a generalization.

I didn't mean to sound like I was attacking you. I was just trying to explain why you saw really outdated stuff in our homes.