Curious: Why Do "Moderators" Not Like People Of Faith???

[Chalchalero]

To the OP, I'm sorry for your loss, and for you celibacy decision, but each has to follow the life he sees fit.

Not surprisingly, a gay forum inherently carries an anti-Christian bias. Christianity is the most prevalent faith in the world, and even moreso in the West. As such, it has been the loudest voice of opposition to gays. Although there is a growing faction within Christianity, and even within Mormonism, that is gay-tolerant, it is still a tiny minority in comparison.

So, the ones who DO care about religion, especially those who see it as the chief cause of oppression and misery, quickly latch onto any posts defending it, and generally beat it back into the closet here on the forums.

Other religions, because they are less well-known in the West, or simply less influential, draw less fire here. Sometimes Islam takes a thrashing, but it is often in context of militant Islam rather than the majority.

Finally, Eastern Mysticism, e.g. Hinduism, Buddhism, etc., usually get a free pass here, as they are viewed as philosophies and invariably stripped of any beliefs in God, despite the adherents the world over actually worshipping gods. Apparently the Westernized versions are the only ones having defining meaning here.

As to your invective against mods, it seems ill-aimed. Most mod actions are very fair and unbiased, like Quasar's above. In my years on the forums, I have never witnessed an anti-religious post or action by a mod, and I've drawn plenty of flame from the anti-religionists, but never from a mod. There are mods who occasionally stoop to belligerent exchanges with the posts from trolls, but any man can reach his limits.

I'd welcome reading more of your posts here in HT, but without the overtone of wanting to storm heaven's gate, pardon the expression. As a devout man, I'd also welcome PMs if you care to discuss your faith or views.

Respectfully,

Jason

Thank you Jason. I believe on that note, therefore, I will drop the subject. You have made a valid point, and I apologise to anyone who feels that what I have done here was inappropriate.

 

[sixthson]

I think it is good when these things are discussed in open forum rather than just between one JUBber and the mods.
It might help all of us to better understand things.
Afterall, we are all adults here (even if we occasionally act like children).

Are people of faith disliked here at JUB? Absolutely, but that is not the topic. The topic is about mods disliking people of faith and I have not witnessed that particularly.

If I am not mistaken, don't fellow mods hold each other to account for why they make certain decisions?

 

[Telstra]

Where is the evidence of your statement?

"Mods not like people of faith"

 

[FanofFiction]

I agree with sixthson that it's best to discuss things in the open, so that we all might learn from the exchange. I work in politics all day so I tired of private discussions and backroom dealings.

That said, I've never had a problem with censorship on this site despite the confrontations I've had with people on the topic of religion. I'm a religious person and from time to time have gone against popular relgious bashing threads. I've never been censored for it.

And I don't think it's because I suck the mods dicks either... I don't really know who most of the mods are and I don't really talk to the one I do know. But they seem like fine enough guys.

 

[texpatriot]

I have been a member here since 2007. Throughout that time, I have lost a lover to bladder cancer, embraced celibacy, become more involved with my Catholic Faith, and also become way more conservative.

Does this mean that I deserve to be censored by the "moderators"? I am curious to hear opinions. I can and will provide specific examples upon request. (Need to know there is interest first...)

Nope!

You should be censored because JUB doesn't have any French Moderators.

And frankly I support them on whatever "moderating" decision that they make against you!

We have some really cool South East Asian JUB members here, who's countries use to be under "French Rule" and now they're Muslim, and they're way cool and less bitchy than the French.

"Pittty" is French is it not?

Somehow I was thinking that it is a French word.

I'm thinking what's NOT French right?

Love me some Fries!



Anyway when you decide to make reservations for a "Pitty Party" please make sure it's for a table for ONE.

Other than that I'm sure that you're a really hot European Dude, you did recently come out as "French," so your English accent alone is worth a hand job.

Call me.

 

[quasar]

The point I was trying to make was simply that I have been accused of everything from being a racist to being anti-Semitic, to wanting gay people to stop having sex...you name it! The "moderators" do not jump in and edit these remarks or censor them in any way. I cannot describe to you the amount of abuse I have endured here. It is why I stopped coming for as long as I did...

Well I can't speak for the specific moderators elsewhere on the boards, but in all fairness we have an average of 1000 new posts made over any given 24hour period. Whilst we try to review as many of them as possible, it isn't always achievable. Much of my time is spent checking and researching images, updating some threads and general housekeeping that has been missed on other ocassions. Other mods are also involved in checking new members, researching duplicate accounts, checking medical advice, proofing stories etc.

It's because of these other things that we often get embroiled in that we also rely on members assisting us by reporting any posts that are abusive or breaching the numerous posting guidelines.

Simple rule for me has always been that if I don't know there's an issue, I can't do anything about it...

 

[oakpope]

Nope!

You should be censored because JUB doesn't have any French Moderators.

We have some really cool South East Asian JUB members here, who's countries use to be under "French Rule" and now they're Muslim, and they're way cool and less bitchy than the French.

"Pittty" is French is it not?

Somehow I was thinking that it is a French word.

I'm thinking what's NOT French right?

Love me some Fries!

Other than that I'm sure that you're a really hot European Dude, you did recently come out as "French," so your English accent alone is worth a hand job.

hum...I must have missed your humour or sarcasm. First, the poster is Swiss, and calling a Swiss a French is akin to calling an American a Canadian.

Second, why the french bashing ?? It is rather hurtful without a clear relation to the subject of the OP.

your french friend.

 

[ravenstar]

I'm an out and loud Spiritualist who has self published a book of visualised meditations and is working on a new book of meditations and visualisations to increase health and well being and the Mod's on here adore me

 

[bankside]

I have observed in the minds of many people of faith a sense of entitlement that their religious insights should be treated as a given, or that at least one owes a special kind of deference to those pronouncements.

It is interesting to observe the howls of indignation which can arise when one merely states a differing view with the same forthright conviction.

I don't know whether that is at play in your perceptions. But I note that those perceptions, in the light of day of this thread, have seen us move very quickly from "mod oppression and censorship with examples on request" to "Well actually it's more like they don't stick up for me enough" to absolute silence in the face of the very reasonable objection that volunteer moderators can't be everywhere at every moment. Have you reported your concerns? Or have you stored them up for this particular thread?

If you do feel that support is in order for dealing with a particular post which you feel is off-side, I join with other posters in urging you to avail yourself of the "report post" feature or the "ask the moderators" forum. And also to prepare yourself that someone looking at a particular exchange from the outside may not share your perception that any indignity has been imposed upon you.

Do not forget what you can do autonomously to deal with concerns. If you are accused of wanting gay people to stop having sex, often the most effective thing to do is simply explain why this is not your position and then let your record speak for itself.

I have been accused of some unpleasant things, on matters of important principle, by people who I would have thought would know better. Yet I do not recall reporting a post made about me. While I have reported inappropriate posts made about others, I prefer to rebut points myself rather than occupy the time of the volunteer moderators. Even with the posts of others I tend to just report what appears to be spam or marketing trolls, or private phone numbers or e-mails posted in the threads.

 

[Saybrooke]

Nope!

You should be censored because JUB doesn't have any French Moderators.

And frankly I support them on whatever "moderating" decision that they make against you!

We have some really cool South East Asian JUB members here, who's countries use to be under "French Rule" and now they're Muslim, and they're way cool and less bitchy than the French.

"Pittty" is French is it not?

Somehow I was thinking that it is a French word.

I'm thinking what's NOT French right?

Love me some Fries!



Anyway when you decide to make reservations for a "Pitty Party" please make sure it's for a table for ONE.

Other than that I'm sure that you're a really hot European Dude, you did recently come out as "French," so your English accent alone is worth a hand job.

Call me.

Omg you are too much! XD

I totally agree though, the mods are here for a reason. They were chosen to do a job, and sometimes that means moderating!

 

[Kulindahr]

Quite frankly, from your comments in this thread and in http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7870279&postcount=1, you are showing yourself as bordering on being a flagellant rather than the rational professor of any religious view, prompted, it would seem, by survivor's guilt.

That's a good insight. I definitely see a persecution complex -- and a need to feel persecuted.

The point I was trying to make was simply that I have been accused of everything from being a racist to being anti-Semitic, to wanting gay people to stop having sex...you name it! The "moderators" do not jump in and edit these remarks or censor them in any way. I cannot describe to you the amount of abuse I have endured here. It is why I stopped coming for as long as I did.

When you falsely generalize about people, using derogatory language about their views before they've hardly commented on yours, do you really expect people to treat you with kid gloves?

What you just described is exactly what at least one forum says: not for the faint of heart! When you go into such a forum proudly wearing reactionary and extremist associations for all to see, are you seriously claiming you think people will treat you rationally?

This thread is baiting -- baiting the moderators by your quote marks casting into doubt that they actually moderate, and baiting by trying to make religion an issue. Two mods have weighed in rather politely and showed that your whine about being persecuted is baseless.

If you'd bother to get to know the mods, you'd find that there are people of faith among them -- which to those of us who know that makes your thread title really twisted.

 

[Kulindahr]

I disagree. I believe that, if people can post their private parts all over the place then I can certainly have a discussion about something which I feel needs to be discussed. Private parts are appropriate, but my opinions are not? Are you a "moderator"? You sound like one.

He's not, he's just rational to a fault. I think he's related to Star Trek's Commander Data.

You again have entered extraneous opinions about me into the discussion that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. You really must stop doing that. Honestly.

"Are you a moderator? You sound like one."

 

[Corny]

It seems that religion is a rather convenient card being played here when the real reasons are different.

 

[oakpope]

I will look like an ass-kisser, but I would like to take the opportunity of this strange thread to thank all the moderators for their hard work. I don't know if it's fulfilling for them, they take constant whining and not so many praises.

Thank you dear moderators !!!

(the hundred bucks should arrive in my bank account soon I hope )