HunterM
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Haha, get in line, I'll do him on video for free. And if it makes the producer happy, I'll claim I'm straight too.![]()
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Haha, get in line, I'll do him on video for free. And if it makes the producer happy, I'll claim I'm straight too.![]()
QUOTE: "IT'S VERY POSSIBLE KURT MAY NOT EVEN KNOW HIMSELF..."
That's insane...he's been married forever and keeps popping out children, says he's physically and emotionally attracted TO WOMEN: Seems he knows himself pretty damn well by the sound of it. Seems YOU'RE the one in denial imo.
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If you won't take people at their word, why should anyone you at yours?
That's like me saying, Ron18, I think YOU'RE straight. You can't deny it and say you're gay bcuz you may not truly know yourself yet. Perhaps you're simply confused and going thru a phase by thinking you're gay. I'm pretty sure you're at least Bisexual bcuz in high school you flirted and dated a few girls. I'm sure you're into a girls at least a bit, you're just not comfortable admitting it and you insist on playing up this gay thing, probably just to be trendy.
Doesn't that sound ridiculous? For me to claim you don't know yourself? That's exactly what you're doing.
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Seriously, try watching the behind the scenes of some gay-for-pay productions ...it'll break the delusion that none of them are truly straight. Of course there are plenty that use gay guys as "straights" (sean cody type companies) but the fact is that not all GUYS who engage in sex with other men are automatically gay.
That's a fact.
Anyway, believe what you will...it's a free country, I just get annoyed when people claim it's IMPOSSIBLE for a straight guy to do anything with another man when I know that's bullshit and when straight women are fucking other women in every straight porno in history, but you're not calling them closet lesbians who don't know themselves...
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Sorry, but I'm not budging. IMO, "gay-for-pay" is a farcical marketing tool; I don't believe any of these guys are actually straight, nor do I believe that a true heterosexual man (for what a porn company would pay) would voluntarily let another man touch him in any way that is sexual. If he does, then at the very least he is bisexual.
I don't care how many wives, girlfriends and kids he has, Kurt Wild is as gay as a David Guetta remix of Judy Garland's "Over the Rainbow."
Well, I'm coming to this quite late in the day, but that was a really uncomfortable interview to watch. And it was day time television in America?! Wow! It felt like being back in school with everyone wanting to know your business - really wrong and kinda ... insane. Why would she want to do this sort of show, and I get tha he wants money, but really???
RE: "That's insane...he's been married forever and keeps popping out children"
Haha, it's not as insane as you think. Just look at all the straight guys who aren't aware that God put the same G-spot up their ass that he put inside vaginas. And making babies means nothing, bisexuals do it all the time.
RE: "says he's physically and emotionally attracted TO WOMEN"
No offense, but your naivety astounds me. Since when does anyone really believe what an actor says? He's playing a role during interviews, which is no different than playing a role in his videos. In other words, he says what he wants people to know/believe. Didn't you read the above excerpt about porn producers? Apparently not, so I'll repeat it for you, except in a large red font this time so you'll be sure to see it:
"some gay porn producers have almost certainly described some actors as heterosexual to increase sales and publicity for their product."
So if the porn producers are paying him extra to pretend he's straight, do you seriously think he's going to bite the hand or penis that feeds him by saying he's attracted to women AND men? And do you seriously think he would have been invited to appear on the Tyra Banks show if he admitted he was bisexual? Not a chance! The gimmick that drew the ratings was that he was engaging in gay sex for money even though he was straight. And do you have any idea how much money that long, nationally broadcast interview would have cost the porn producers if they had to pay to air it?
RE: "Seems he knows himself pretty damn well by the sound of it. Seems YOU'RE the one in denial imo."
That's insane... because you're basing it on what he "says," which means nothing. Again, he "says" what he wants you to hear, nothing more. You act like you'd believe him if he said he's from Uranus. Thus, it seems YOU'RE the one in denial imo. And I'm beginning to believe you're a close friend of his, if not a relative. It wouldn't even surprise me if you're his father, which could explain his bisexuality.
RE: "If you won't take people at their word, why should anyone you at yours?
That's like me saying, Ron18, I think YOU'RE straight. You can't deny it and say you're gay bcuz you may not truly know yourself yet. Perhaps you're simply confused and going thru a phase by thinking you're gay. I'm pretty sure you're at least Bisexual bcuz in high school you flirted and dated a few girls. I'm sure you're into a girls at least a bit, you're just not comfortable admitting it and you insist on playing up this gay thing, probably just to be trendy.
Doesn't that sound ridiculous? For me to claim you don't know yourself? That's exactly what you're doing."
No offense, but that's one of the silliest analogies I've ever heard. Simply because I'm not a gay for pay porn star claiming to be straight. Thus, I have zero incentive to lie about my sexual orientation. Use your common sense and follow the money. Because again, there's obviously a big financial incentive for him to deny that he's bisexual.
RE: "Seriously, try watching the behind the scenes of some gay-for-pay productions ...it'll break the delusion that none of them are truly straight. Of course there are plenty that use gay guys as "straights" (sean cody type companies) but the fact is that not all GUYS who engage in sex with other men are automatically gay."
You must have me confused with someone else, as I've never indicated that I believe ALL of the "straight" gay for pay porn actors are bisexual. Just Kurt, as he's the only one I'm familiar with right now. Because seeing is believing. And since a picture is worth a thousand words, the video I saw of Kurt is worth millions of words. And based on what I saw, my opinion is that he's bisexual.
RE: "Anyway, believe what you will...it's a free country, I just get annoyed when people claim it's IMPOSSIBLE for a straight guy to do anything with another man when I know that's bullshit and when straight women are fucking other women in every straight porno in history, but you're not calling them closet lesbians who don't know themselves"
Again, you've apparently got me confused with someone else, because I've never claimed it's "IMPOSSIBLE." And if you'll review this thread, you'll see that I agreed it's "possible" Kurt IS 100% straight... I just don't believe it, based on what I saw with my own eyes.
okay dude. whatever. It's all good. Think what you will.
Your POV sounds silly and ill-informed to me...and mine sounds silly to you.
Means arguing about it is pointless and exhausting and futile. You know his sexuality better than he does, I get it.
Sorry, man. Going back and forth anymore is a waste of time.
Nothing's gonna change: You think he's lying about his sexuality. I believe him that he's straight (but doesn't mind guy-sex).
Pretty much sums it up.
RE: "Your POV sounds silly and ill-informed to me"
But not to the vast majority of JUBbers who have read any part of this thread, as they believe Kurt is bisexual.
RE: "and mine sounds silly to you"
It doesn't sound silly, just naive. Because you're basing it on what a porn star "says," even though it's been pointed out to you that he has a huge financial motive to lie about his sexual orientation.
RE: "Means arguing about it is pointless and exhausting and futile"
It's called "debating" -- you stated your POV and I stated mine, while trying to talk sense into you via logic and facts. A debate only degenerates into an argument when both sides rehash the same points over and over.
RE: "You know his sexuality better than he does, I get it."
Haha, for someone who doesn't want to "argue," that's a pretty argumentative parting shot. It's similar to me saying, "You'd believe anything he says, even if he claimed to be from Uranus, I get it."![]()
Sounds awfully hypothetical, like you've never had any actual experience at all with a strict top before. I have, and some of them have told me they've bottomed before and didn't like it; one even told me that he occasionally went vers in a long-term relationship as a labor of love, but he didn't like anal play much at all.
Tops do, however, get off on the pleasure that they're giving the bottom. Some guys even only prefer oral, for that matter.
Fair enough. But I'm seriously tired of debating it. I have personal experience with straight guys to back up my POV. That's why I get heated about it. However, this debate tires me because it's endless and goes in circles.
So we should agree to disagree and be done with it.
lol. I actually agree with you there...It WAS a tacky parting shot. You're right. Sorry.
I've tried taking it in the ass many times (including many toys) and have yet to enjoy the experience. I've come to the conclusion that I don't like getting fuckedBecause I've never fucked anyone who didn't love the experience.
strangepoetry,
I agree with most of what you've written. However, there are (obviously) many guys who are in total denial of their attraction to the same sex; some of them will act upon their impulses but justify their behavior somehow. In this case, it's possible that Kurt Wild has justified getting paid as the reason for having sex with other guys. It seems irrational that Kurt Wild and his other half planned a family and continued to have children despite the fact that he needed to take it up the ass in order to pay the bills. Parallels the stories of gay/bi guys who desperately wanted to be normal and live a normal life...
Regardless, it doesn't matter. I don't doubt there's many 100% straight guys who participate in gay porn for the cash (watch Active Duties videos... it's fairly easy to distinguish the gays from the straights) but OTOH, I don't doubt that a minority of those guys are actually attracted to the same sex and are using getting paid to justify there experiences.
I've tried taking it in the ass many times (including many toys) and have yet to enjoy the experience. I've come to the conclusion that I don't like getting fucked.
The only thing I can conclude from this is that your G-spot wasn't being stimulated properly, otherwise you'd have been moaning like Kurt Wild.![]()
RonR18 - your cock looks big enough, I'm sure guys moan weather you hit their prostate or not!
It seems irrational that Kurt Wild and his other half planned a family and continued to have children despite the fact that he needed to take it up the ass in order to pay the bills.
