Defense Classes?

[lookin4sum1icantrust]

I was thinking about this lately, because they have been a lot of stories in the paper, and movies about horrible hate crimes all over the world. I was thinking that when I start dating a guy that him and I need to take some defense classes to handle what comes at us when in public during the day or night if out late walking or something.

 

[lookin4sum1icantrust]

Or do what I did and buy yourself some pocket Mace to keep on your keychain.

I have mace, but that can only do so much. lol I also been thinking about buying a gun, but that can be some messy shit trying to clean up. lol

 

[lookin4sum1icantrust]

What more do you need it to do? Spray a shitload of it in the fucker's face, kick his ass in the balls and RUN! And don't look back!

lol. Everyone takes it differently. When you mace them, not everyone is going to stop, and tear up for a little, because you kick the shit out of them, and made them teary eyed. Some people get angry about that shit, and will still come after you like it you didn't do anything. Mace is powerful, but not that powerful, kinda like a tazer, some people can deal with the pain like it was some water thrown in their face,or like they just got pinched. They only can so much like I said. It's better to fight hands on than with a weapon (Maybe expect a knife/gun).

 

[Muscles4daze]

I consider myself to be a tough guy and I have zero tolerance for hate crimes, I won't allow myself to be a victim. Society has always viewed gay men as being weak and feminine, you rarely hear incidents of lesbians being victimized, the majority of the time it's gay men. That's why I loved Omar Little, a character from "HBO's The Wire". He was an openly gay character, who did not take any shit!
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[lookin4sum1icantrust]

If you're gonna take classes, do it now. A martial art could come in useful but the training is oriented differently.

Understand that when you're fighting to defend yourself, nastiness is best.

Your instruction in self defense should address getting around the body's automatic defense system. Each and every one of us has had something from somewhere fly at us towards the face. Maybe a pebble from a mower ricocheting off the house, an errant bug, a spatter of grease from the stove. You flinch and it grazes your cheek or forehead, and you think to yourself "wow that was close"

There are zones on the body which are extremely vulnerable to injury but our nervous system has adapted to protect just as adeptly. Every try to kick a guy in the crotch? you just can't suddenly do it. The reaction times for the male body to thrust the hips back and bring hte knees together exceeds neurosyaptic control speeds, the same as something coming at our eyes.

The easiest way to bypass these defense systems is to overwhelm the attacker's nervous system with information. Multiple movements that are chaotic and and simultaneous. If your standing go for a knee to their crotch, the heel of your right palm upward into their nose and your left going for a jab to their neck.

When going for their jewels don't come up between their legs. you'll only get stuck and put in a compromising center of balance. Move your body towards theirs and bring the knee in to their shit from straight on. Thinking about it seems illogical until you realize the defense system is designed for them to pull their hips back and close the legs, bringing your body foward will compensate for that backwards motion and put you right in the home run range.

Practice the heel palm strike. If you don't know how to punch you can seriously fuck up your wrist and won't cause much damage because of flexing in the wrist. Hold your hand out in front of you like a limp Nelly with the fingers and wrist loose (go ahead, do it). Quickly pull your wrist back. Notice your wrist forms close to a 90 degree angle and your fingers are still loose. This is the proper hold. draw your elbow down to your side but enough room to fit your other fist between the elbow and your side. With your hand neutral and your elbow already bent flip your wrist back and thrust the heel of your palm up to eye level quickly and firmly. This strike in connection with the groin lunge puts either their nose or chin directly into the path of your palm. Hit the chin and you'll shatter teeth, possibly break their jaw bite off their tongue, and if your lucky knock them the fuck out or cause them a whole heck of a lot of neck pain real fast. If your hit their nose it'll break. if you stroke their nose with enough break force you'll drive bone into the brain and potentially kill them.

Thanks, OrionFyre for the tips! I need to go, and look for some defense classes in martial arts. I think it's cool how in martial arts they teach you the pressure points to the body, and where & where not to attack at. AWESOME!

 

[Modified918]

if the time ever comes, im confident i can take anyone who comes my way. the only way they could tell im gay is if they know me, and even those who know me say i look pretty intimidating and wouldnt start shit with me

 

[blackbeltninja]

Orion makes some good points.

I'd like to add, though, that as with all things regular practice is key. That's the major downside - these things are fresh in your mind after a class, but a week or two after the course is finished, it's gone. You might remember bits of it when you stop to think about it, but you don't have time to think about it when someone charges at you with a baseball bat.

If you think I'm wrong, try doing high-school trigonometry again - especially if you haven't looked at it since the day after your trig exam. It may have been a part of you then but it probably isn't any more.

In my not-so-humble opinion - I've been training in the martial arts continuously since 1994 - rather sign up to learn the art and get the grades than take 3 or 4 weeks of lessons. That way you get to meet new people, get fitter, keep fitter and - most importantly - keep those techniques honed and ready for if/when you need them.

-d-

 

[star-warrior]

Yes, if anything, to get more fruit.

 

[lookin4sum1icantrust]

Orion makes some good points.

I'd like to add, though, that as with all things regular practice is key. That's the major downside - these things are fresh in your mind after a class, but a week or two after the course is finished, it's gone. You might remember bits of it when you stop to think about it, but you don't have time to think about it when someone charges at you with a baseball bat.

If you think I'm wrong, try doing high-school trigonometry again - especially if you haven't looked at it since the day after your trig exam. It may have been a part of you then but it probably isn't any more.

In my not-so-humble opinion - I've been training in the martial arts continuously since 1994 - rather sign up to learn the art and get the grades than take 3 or 4 weeks of lessons. That way you get to meet new people, get fitter, keep fitter and - most importantly - keep those techniques honed and ready for if/when you need them.

-d-

How many times do you go a week? Can you pay like a gym membership so you pay by the month or the year?

 

[blackbeltninja]

^^Depends on the club.

My club operates monthly, so whether you go once or to all the sessions is up to you. We do operate on the philosophy of regular training, though, and encourage everyone to attend all the sessions.

The senior class (older than kids, but not senior citizens; ages 15-65, roughly) is on twice a week - Tuesday and Thursday nights. There is a fitness/circuit component as well as focusing on combat, self-defence, classical karate techniques (Kata/forms) and co-ordination, with a sprinkling of grappling and weapons training/defence thrown in from time to time.

Every session ends off with a hotly contested game not unlike volley-ball, but played with 2 different colour balls simultaneously; the idea is to both increase awareness and cool down slowly after the class.

^Pointless? I don't think so. We do ocasionally work on multiple-attacker self defence; and if you get mugged in town or whatever, there's likely to be one guy doing the attack with maybe a mate hanging around trying to make it look like nothing is going on. You just need to break one of them in half; the other one usually decides to bail once his mate gets hurt.

Nobody says we teach our guys to fight fair, either... We tell them there are only rules if there is a referee present; you do whatever you need to in the street.

-d-

 

[star-warrior]

My brother is a teacher of WingChun. He's got tall students and short ones. He says that because of their heights, he has to teach them the same techniques differently. Just coz someone is small, doesn't mean that they can't undermine a taller opponent's balance. They have to reach down, whilst you have to reach up, etc.

He does wrap everything up in jargon though, but if you distill it down, it is all about delivering your strike in close knit combat whilst keeping your vulnerable areas well guarded. In his thirty years of training, and encountering other teachers of the same art, each seems to have a slightly different technique, and he criticising them for leaving themselves vulnerable.

In telling me about the deliverance of force in a strike, then swinging a fist forwards doesn't deliever maximum force, you need to follow through from the shoulder and the rotation of your waist and hips but grounded on a firm stance. Much of basic learning is to do with proper stance techniques. The rest is up to building technique from accustomed reflex and keeping supple or relaxed during fighting.

That might sound like a contradiction, but when you're relaxed, you can respond to things in a more fluid motion than being bunched up and tense. If you've ever watched Bruce Lee, or some of those really awful kungfu movies, you'll appreciate that it isn't bravado, but rather good sense.