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Definitely vs. Definately
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Sinister Dexter
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Isn't this one of the rarest usages of affect? Usually affect is used as a verb meaning to change or influence existing conditions. Effect used as a verb means to create a new situation. Like "The government's policies effected change." means that the policies created new change.
"The government's policies effected everyone." doesn't make any sense unless the policies somehow made more people exist. Affect should be used there.
When used as a noun, affect means what is listed above, an emotion or mood. Effect means a result - like "cause and effect."
I don't mean to correct you, just to elaborate.
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I completely agree. I always laugh when people are so afraid to use "me" that they use "myself" instead. Myself can only be used reflexively (verbs you do to yourself) or for emphasis ("I'm gonna go down there myself and give them a piece of my mind!")
The mispelling of definitely is won of my pet peaves to.......but I try too not get TWO effected by it as long as their isn't any MOAR OF it....... 
"Rediculous" is one of those that always kind of annoys me. That said, it was one of Dreu's regular 'words' and by association I always now tend to think of him whenever I see it.
I can also sympathise with Ozguy. I pride myself on being able to spell correctly (in ENGLISH, rather than American) - so you can imagine that I was also mortified to recently discover that I had regularly been typing neccessary...oops!
- Now I make it 'necessary'.
Just as an aside - does anyone have words for which they know the correct spelling - but for some reason always manage to type them incorrectly? For some unknown reason I have a habit, with a few words, of almost always putting in an extra letter.
'Remember' is one of those. For some reason, despite the fact that I know the correct spelling, my fingers almost always seem to find an extra 'e' - and type 'rememeber'. Odd...I still can't work out why - maybe just the repetitive 'e'? There are a couple of others - but I won't rememeber (
there I go again) until it happens.
I can also sympathise with Ozguy. I pride myself on being able to spell correctly (in ENGLISH, rather than American) - so you can imagine that I was also mortified to recently discover that I had regularly been typing neccessary...oops!
- Now I make it 'necessary'.Just as an aside - does anyone have words for which they know the correct spelling - but for some reason always manage to type them incorrectly? For some unknown reason I have a habit, with a few words, of almost always putting in an extra letter.
'Remember' is one of those. For some reason, despite the fact that I know the correct spelling, my fingers almost always seem to find an extra 'e' - and type 'rememeber'. Odd...I still can't work out why - maybe just the repetitive 'e'? There are a couple of others - but I won't rememeber (
there I go again) until it happens.
(standing alone that is a stalker statement! ) 
Talk about your tough rooms. And I thought I was a perfectionist -- Autolycus has even gently chastised me for being a bit too tough on our budding authors - at least via public post. At the same time, I have received many thanks, both public and via PM for commenting, encouraging, and trying to help out. It's a balancing act, to be sure.
This thread reminds me of the sticky thread in the Gay Stories Forum, started by Tantiboh, and contributed to by several of the more prolific and professional authors here at JUB. It is a wonderful resource for literary writing, regardless of genre. It is presented as a candid set of helpful hints and bugaboos.
I have pointed it out to many of our budding authors whom I thought would be receptive to the encouragement. That is a large part of my personal dilemma -- who wants the help to improve their spelling/grammar/homonym choice improved vs. who isn't at that point in their writing - they may be writing for other reasons, such as catharsis with their coming out, which is much more important than my grammar lessons.
My son got me involved in Forensics (Speech and Debate) judging when he was in High School. He competed at the national level, and I judged, accordingly. It was an addictive sport, both for the kids and for me as a coach/judge. The nit-picking, hair-splitting differences in presentations that garnered a 1st vs a 6th place were sub-microscopic, but were discernable, nonetheless. His personal favourite was Congress - complete with drafting their own proposed legislation, negotiating pre-session to set proposed agendas, electing presiding officers, and then the actual presentations for and against - and the quick thinking on one's feet that this particular category required.
Kids that get dressed up in suits and ties or dresses on a Saturday, to go to a competition, where they stand up and present themselves, then crowd around their coaches at the end of the day to get their comment/judging sheets, to see how the judges ripped them new assholes. The passion and camaraderie of the competitors was phenomenal.
To those of you with major pet peeves, I recommend taking a stroll thru the sticky thread, then adding your own, well thought out, constructive criticism. It is a living, breathing document. Our future purveyors of fine porn thank you in advance, as do the readers of same.
This thread reminds me of the sticky thread in the Gay Stories Forum, started by Tantiboh, and contributed to by several of the more prolific and professional authors here at JUB. It is a wonderful resource for literary writing, regardless of genre. It is presented as a candid set of helpful hints and bugaboos.
I have pointed it out to many of our budding authors whom I thought would be receptive to the encouragement. That is a large part of my personal dilemma -- who wants the help to improve their spelling/grammar/homonym choice improved vs. who isn't at that point in their writing - they may be writing for other reasons, such as catharsis with their coming out, which is much more important than my grammar lessons.
My son got me involved in Forensics (Speech and Debate) judging when he was in High School. He competed at the national level, and I judged, accordingly. It was an addictive sport, both for the kids and for me as a coach/judge. The nit-picking, hair-splitting differences in presentations that garnered a 1st vs a 6th place were sub-microscopic, but were discernable, nonetheless. His personal favourite was Congress - complete with drafting their own proposed legislation, negotiating pre-session to set proposed agendas, electing presiding officers, and then the actual presentations for and against - and the quick thinking on one's feet that this particular category required.
Kids that get dressed up in suits and ties or dresses on a Saturday, to go to a competition, where they stand up and present themselves, then crowd around their coaches at the end of the day to get their comment/judging sheets, to see how the judges ripped them new assholes. The passion and camaraderie of the competitors was phenomenal.
To those of you with major pet peeves, I recommend taking a stroll thru the sticky thread, then adding your own, well thought out, constructive criticism. It is a living, breathing document. Our future purveyors of fine porn thank you in advance, as do the readers of same.
Pointing out or insisting on proper spelling, grammar, and punctuation does not make one a nazi. Spelling, grammar, and punctuation have nothing to do with National Socialism, which is a political movement. People have watched too many episodes of Seinfeld and now wrongly use the word Nazi.
It's annoying when he complains like its out fault it is spelt wrong even though we have no control over what is written on the signs, we just print them out.
I've been given a lecture of the spelling of it so many times. LOL.
The past tense of spell is spelled. I'm not singling out you, Kester. I am only pointing out a mistake that many make.
In British English (which is the correct English) license is a verb and licence is a noun.
Manoeuvre comes from French and this is the correct spelling. You have spelled it the American way.
Robarob
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According to my dictionary, spelt is: "past and past part. of SPELL" - aren't both therefore correct (as in knelt/kneeled)?
Or maybe it's just a British thing.
Or maybe it's just a British thing.
CkLover,
Would you humour we poor, illiterate Yanks?
Some of us really do try to colour our writing in proper form,
but there are certain words that have become Anglicised and fall a bit too far from centre for us, such as manoeuvre.
We pray that our mongrel language, for that is truly what English is - a compilation of many cultures and their respective linguistics, does not grow aspirations of creating such an august institute as the purist Francophiles have in their national institute of language - whatever the correct term is.
We readily accept new words in our ever evolving world, instead of steadfastly clinging to words from a bye-gone era that cannot sufficiently describe current technologies. I will defend orthopaedics along your side, but I ask for some wiggle room, so I can maneuvre!
Would you humour we poor, illiterate Yanks?
Some of us really do try to colour our writing in proper form,
but there are certain words that have become Anglicised and fall a bit too far from centre for us, such as manoeuvre.
We pray that our mongrel language, for that is truly what English is - a compilation of many cultures and their respective linguistics, does not grow aspirations of creating such an august institute as the purist Francophiles have in their national institute of language - whatever the correct term is.
We readily accept new words in our ever evolving world, instead of steadfastly clinging to words from a bye-gone era that cannot sufficiently describe current technologies. I will defend orthopaedics along your side, but I ask for some wiggle room, so I can maneuvre!
Aluminum or Aluminium???
What say you on the East side of the Pond?
I suppose we could restrict ourselves to using just the symbols from the Periodic Table of Elements, just to be safe.
Then again, would you know what I meant with Sn in lieu of Al?
The Cowardly Lion and the Scarecrow might remember the fellow.
-Just having a bit o' fun at our own expense - we can't take ourselves too seriously, now can we? That would take all the fun out of the forum.
What say you on the East side of the Pond?
I suppose we could restrict ourselves to using just the symbols from the Periodic Table of Elements, just to be safe.
Then again, would you know what I meant with Sn in lieu of Al?
The Cowardly Lion and the Scarecrow might remember the fellow.
-Just having a bit o' fun at our own expense - we can't take ourselves too seriously, now can we? That would take all the fun out of the forum.
CkLover,
Would you humour we poor, illiterate Yanks?
Some of us really do try to colour our writing in proper form,
but there are certain words that have become Anglicised and fall a bit too far from centre for us, such as manoeuvre.
We pray that our mongrel language, for that is truly what English is - a compilation of many cultures and their respective linguistics, does not grow aspirations of creating such an august institute as the purist Francophiles have in their national institute of language - whatever the correct term is.
We readily accept new words in our ever evolving world, instead of steadfastly clinging to words from a bye-gone era that cannot sufficiently describe current technologies. I will defend orthopaedics along your side, but I ask for some wiggle room, so I can maneuvre!
Point taken. A lot of spellings have changed because the incorrect spelling became common usage.
Thanks.
On a ridiculous segué into French - English word assassination -
Fillet - Fil-ay, as in the French, or Phil 'et, as in the UK pronunciation?
Herbs - erb or "Her"b?
My aural canal and gastronomic senses plead for the French in both these cases.
On a ridiculous segué into French - English word assassination -
Fillet - Fil-ay, as in the French, or Phil 'et, as in the UK pronunciation?
Herbs - erb or "Her"b?
My aural canal and gastronomic senses plead for the French in both these cases.
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And it should be "diarrhoea".
And no one has yet pointed to "encyclopaedia". I suppose many will copy Wikipedia's error.
And no one has yet pointed to "encyclopaedia". I suppose many will copy Wikipedia's error.
There's that pesky "o", again!
Just looking at the word spelled that way puts my mouth into fits - by the time I could get the word out, I'm afraid I'd have soiled my undergarments trying to get to the WC.
Or is that Loo, Privy, Commode, Crapper, Toilet, Powder Room, Bath Room, Rest Room, Comfort Station, Men's/Ladies Room, not to mention Out House in less sophisticated plumbing situations. And these are all "English" words.
I have no problem with the æ, other than finding it on a keyboard!
I got creative, and borrowed from MS Word special characters.
Just looking at the word spelled that way puts my mouth into fits - by the time I could get the word out, I'm afraid I'd have soiled my undergarments trying to get to the WC.
Or is that Loo, Privy, Commode, Crapper, Toilet, Powder Room, Bath Room, Rest Room, Comfort Station, Men's/Ladies Room, not to mention Out House in less sophisticated plumbing situations. And these are all "English" words.
I have no problem with the æ, other than finding it on a keyboard!
I got creative, and borrowed from MS Word special characters.
But, but, you hail from our Northern border - the bastion of Proper English on this side of the Atlantic.
Or, is this more of an assault on the Ancient Greek the words hail from, than the English that adopted them?
LOL
Or, is this more of an assault on the Ancient Greek the words hail from, than the English that adopted them?
LOL
It's not a mistake where we come from. You're the one spelling it incorrectly.
I am not spelling it incorrectly. The Oxford English Dictionary lists spelled and spelt as correct spellings. However, spelled is in bold letters in the dictionary and spelt is in italics which indicates to me that spelled is the more accepted form.
Hmmmm,
I wonder if that's Oxford in the States, as opposed to UK?
We're much more likely to use spelled than spelt.
I wonder if that's Oxford in the States, as opposed to UK?
We're much more likely to use spelled than spelt.