On-Topic Did Obama Just Throw The Entire Election Away?

[rareboy]

^ Well finally.

It certainly has taken you long enough to wake up and smell Romney's imminent defeat.

 

[ReadyWithReadyWit]

please Jack.

Romney needs the electoral college, and there are simply few paths for him to get there now. For him to win, he needs to sweep all remaining toss up states.

to do that he needs to have four weeks in a row like he just had, and it's not going to happen. I know it sells commercials on news shows better when people think there is an upset in the race, but this is Romney's first bounce in polls in 18 months, and it will not be enough.

The fight is still real and it is still hard for both sides, but at the end of the day, no matter what anyone says, this is about turn out, nothing more or less, and hate has never been a motivator of the uninformed portion of the electorate.

Yep, this is still an uphill battle for Romney. And, really, it comes down to one state: OHIO... I would hate to be watching non-DVRed television programming in that state this month... though would love to be able to cast my vote there. Obama could actually lose the popular vote and still win somewhat comfortably... I bet you the right would love that one...

And, spot on about turnout... youth and Hispanic turnout is deciding this election...

 

[AngolaZee]

Barack really needs to re-energise the base, Democrats were on such a high after the meticulous DNC and then the debate happened

 

[BostonPirate]

Barack really needs to re-energise the base, Democrats were on such a high after the meticulous DNC and then the debate happened

No debate has changed the course of an election in my lifetime except one, Kennedy Nixon.

Romney is no Jack Kennedy that's for sure. It DOES remind us how important it is to not think of it as in the bag.

 

[Jack Springer]

The entire time after the debate the Obama campaign's response has been Big Bird. Now Big Bird has sent a letter to Obama to stop.

As is football or any sport there is momentum and that can carry you through to the win. Romney may be on a roll.

please Jack.

Romney needs the electoral college, and there are simply few paths for him to get there now. For him to win, he needs to sweep all remaining toss up states.

to do that he needs to have four weeks in a row like he just had, and it's not going to happen. I know it sells commercials on news shows better when people think there is an upset in the race, but this is Romney's first bounce in polls in 18 months, and it will not be enough.

The fight is still real and it is still hard for both sides, but at the end of the day, no matter what anyone says, this is about turn out, nothing more or less, and hate has never been a motivator of the uninformed portion of the electorate.

 

[BostonPirate]

The entire time after the debate the Obama campaign's response has been Big Bird. Now Big Bird has sent a letter to Obama to stop.

As is football or any sport there is momentum and that can carry you through to the win. Romney may be on a roll.

lol

That has not been their entire response. The Romney lies have been the focus, and Ryan will not get a pass on them or be allowed to get up and leave when he does not like the question.

Ryan is a mess.

As for the Big Bird crap? Romney should never have said it. Discretionary spending cuts will NEVER solve the budget issues. Big Bird is the new GOP straw man.

 

[Benvolio]

I don't get the whole discussion about cutting funding for PBS... why don't we start rolling back corporate tax breaks, cutting military spending and ending Bush-era tax cuts on the wealthy? Surely, PBS funding is a pin drop compared to the corporate tax breaks...

This essentially describes my feelings. In this case, replace "jobless benefits" with PBS funding.

PBS and NPR have become vehicles of Democrat propoganda. We have multitudes of TV channels and no purpose is served by public funding they spend much of their time adverting for donations. Why not just have commercial ads?

 

[BostonPirate]

Only in GOp land can a documentary and educational television be considered Democratic Propaganda.

Funny stuff.

 

[ReadyWithReadyWit]

PBS and NPR have become vehicles of Democrat propoganda. We have multitudes of TV channels and no purpose is served by public funding they spend much of their time adverting for donations. Why not just have commercial ads?

The ridiculousness of this statement notwithstanding, I must reiterate... this is precisely NOT the point... the point is either to force Romney into a position of actually cutting something meaningful/significant... or, far more likely to be the end result... to paint him as someone with absolutely no BIG serious ideas...

The entire time after the debate the Obama campaign's response has been Big Bird. Now Big Bird has sent a letter to Obama to stop.

As is football or any sport there is momentum and that can carry you through to the win. Romney may be on a roll.

And, not that it matters, but technically Big Bird told both campaigns to leave him the fuck out of it... something that clearly only a democratic propaganda machine would do...

 

[Jack Springer]

And, not that it matters, but technically Big Bird told both campaigns to leave him the fuck out of it... something that clearly only a democratic propaganda machine would do...

I believe you're wrong -- BB told Obama to stop -- Romney has not made it a major focus of his campaign.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/10/09/big-bird-wants-out-of-campaign-ad/

 

[ReadyWithReadyWit]

I believe you're wrong -- BB told Obama to stop -- Romney has not made it a major focus of his campaign.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/10/09/big-bird-wants-out-of-campaign-ad/

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-camp-weighing-request-stop-big-bird-attack-211332626--election.html

The organization, in a blog post, asked both Obama and Romney to discontinue any use of the beloved characters in their war for the White House.

"Sesame Workshop is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization and we do not endorse candidates or participate in political campaigns," Sesame Workshop said. "We have approved no campaign ads, and, as is our general practice, have requested that both campaigns remove Sesame Street characters and trademarks from their campaign materials."

I tend to not make up stuff that is easily verifiable...

That being said, I do think BB has run its course politically...

 

[Constantine]

PBS and NPR have become vehicles of Democrat propoganda. We have multitudes of TV channels and no purpose is served by public funding they spend much of their time adverting for donations. Why not just have commercial ads?

Dude, get outta here! I'd trade 90% of network TV and all of cable news channels for NPR and PBS. Don't f-ck with my Downton Abbey, Car Talk, This American Life, or Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me! Just don't!

 

[Benvolio]

We should not be borrowing money to entertain you, nor taxing people to entertain others. If PBS cannot sustain itself without government funding, it should not exist.

 

[rareboy]

Funny how now it is all about the government borrowing money for Big Bird instead of borrowing money to blow things up. Or to fund tax cuts for the wealthy. Funny that. Isn't it?

PBS is about the only thing that has kept the US entertainment and television industry from looking like what it is...the bottom of the intellectual barrel.

 

[Kulindahr]

Funny how now it is all about the government borrowing money for Big Bird instead of borrowing money to blow things up. Or to fund tax cuts for the wealthy. Funny that. Isn't it?

You mean, if the military can't get by without government funding, we should just let it die?

 

[rareboy]

^ Well we have to be careful don't we. As Halliburton proved when Rumsfeld and Bush tried to outsource the war in Iraq....letting the private contractors (soldiers of fortune) take care of things doesn't always work out so well or so economically.

But imagine if some of the most profligate and non-essential military spending under the Bush years had been subject to the same scrutiny as Bert and Ernie or the Cookie Monster's stipend.

 

[BostonPirate]

Halliburton killed more soldiers through faulty wiring in showers than Al Queda did in the Libyan attack on the embassy.

Just think about that.

 

[Benvolio]

Halliburton killed more soldiers through faulty wiring in showers than Al Queda did in the Libyan attack on the embassy.

Just think about that.

What is your point? Government workers would have been perfect?

 

[BostonPirate]

What is your point? Government workers would have been perfect?

no

More people died so that Cheney could make a buck, than died in the attack on the embassy. Where was the republican outrage then?

 

[Benvolio]

You lie. Cheney had no benefit frim the profits of Halliburton at that point.

Accidents happen whether the work is done by government workers or private.