A couple of nights ago, I'm walking down the street with a date, minding my own business. We get to his aprtment building and kiss each other goodnight. Well, it just so happened that a couple of straight guys saw us, and took it upon themselves to jeer and poke fun. It was obvious they were "tipsy" so we let it pass...until they started walking toward us. Long story short, we got into with the two macho men--and kicked their asses (not without taking a few to the face and gut). Is it just me, or does it seem that the moment a guy is seen as being gay, or bi, all of a sudden they become less than men in the eyes of some straight men? Here's a news flash: we're men TOO! That doesn't change when we come out.
Good point you've made here man. I'm not sure I've ever seen it posted on jub before.
I'm not an 'out' gay guy.
A few years ago I went bowling with two gay guys. These two were good guys that I'd met a few weeks before we went out. It was pretty obvious that they were gay, the way they talked, walked, etc. No one would ever expect I was gay. But these were two fun guys, I enjoyed their company and we always had a good time.
Well, the three of us went bowling one night, pretty late. Back then one could bring beer to the lanes. We had plenty and were having a damned fun time. It was a hugh bowling establishment so there were lot's of customers. The guy assigning the lanes put us down at the end of the place, could be he wanted to keep our kind away from the rest of his customers. I don't know for sure about that though.
We were having a fun time, but one of the guys I was with came up to me and tried to give me a kiss. I was very embarrassed about that, and I saw the other customers down the lanes look at us. I could tell they were making jokes and comments about me and my two friends.
That was in the 90's so things may have changed by now, at least I hope so.
My two friends didn't care a bit about the whole thing, I was the only one that did. I didn't say a word to them, in fact I doubt they even noticed since I think they were used to it.
Anyway, I bowled a 276 in one of those games. We had tons of fun, I never let the guy kiss me in public although he tried. Ended up going to bed with one one of them.... met the other one a few weeks later at a bar and slept with him too.
Long time ago I know. You're thread just brought back these memories.
I think the title you used ' Did you Forget That I'm a Man' says it all.
The gay guys among us that are extremely feminine have a very tough time in our world. Often they don't protray themselves as 'men', within the definition that our society uses to define a man.
I must admit that I've had a hard time accepting guys like that myself. I realize that is not their fault, no one can change their sexuality nor how it is manifested in them.
Well, you've brought up a good point here friend.
I've probably got a bit off course from your original point, but it is something I will continue to think about..... maybe post about it later.