Discussion Thread from the Funny Anti-Religious Pictures thread.

[Kyanimal]

Re: Funny anti-religious Internet pics

^ Oh! SNAP!!

 

[belamyi]

Re: Funny anti-religious Internet pics

^ Still don't get it.

 

[belamyi]

^ Ok, thank you, pal Now I get it... though I still do not get how that joke came to be

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Maybe they meant "Ulpian" library when they said "Julian"..?

 

[Kulindahr]

I enjoy the antireligious pics seeing them as a means of pointing out the contradictions in religions.

I also follow Kulindhar's posts knowing that he sees them from a different point of view to many of us. I sometimes find his comments making me reconsider my position.

My real issue comes from having a series of philosophy classes where it was pounded into us that the only person who attacks a system of thought on the basis of false beliefs about that system of thought is a fool. Most of the cartoons here are of that variety, and they make the ones posting them look no different at all than "conversion therapy" morons who attack homosexuality on the basis of a false belief about it.

If I started a thread with amusing stereotypes of blacks, trans or Muslims would it be allowed? What is the difference between memes about religion and those about blacks?

The only difference I see is that an amusing anti-blacks thread would be attacking individuals whilst the anti-religion one is attacking an institution.

Anybody any opinions? If any mods pass this way I would be interested to know where one stands with the CofC.

The mods are hypocritical regarding the CofC: despite saying attacks on religion aren't allowed, attacks on religion are allowed.

An anti-black thread would be neither more nor less against specific individuals than the posts here. Both are against people, but on JUB it's okay to disrespect people for religious reasons but nor for racial ones, even though both are supposedly against the CofC.

Occasionally a post here will be based on actual correct ideas from/about a religion, and while they're still contrary to the CofC, at least they can be funny and not just make the one posting them look like an idiot.

 

[Kulindahr]

Re: Funny anti-religious Internet pics

That last part about the library is just the typical irrational rabid response to other irrational rabid course of events: once you have established some heinous facts, you just keep adding and adding and adding on, and then they all pass for the same true, established, "facts": basically because there was not such a big library left in Rome at that time, leaving aside that the name "Julian library" is not the proper name of any historical library, much less one that would hold all that quantity of written works.

I'm not aware of any Roman library that ever held a hundred thousand books! Maybe half that in the library of Trajan, if you count individual official documents each as a "book".

Besides that, I'm not aware of Gregory I ordering the burning of any library, nor of any books (except allegedly those of a heretic he debated)!

 

[Kulindahr]

Re: Funny anti-religious Internet pics

^ Oh! SNAP!!

That's funny from several directions.

 

[belamyi]

My real issue comes from having a series of philosophy classes where it was pounded into us that the only person who attacks a system of thought on the basis of false beliefs about that system of thought is a fool. Most of the cartoons here are of that variety, and they make the ones posting them look no different at all than "conversion therapy" morons who attack homosexuality on the basis of a false belief about it.




The mods are hypocritical regarding the CofC: despite saying attacks on religion aren't allowed, attacks on religion are allowed.

An anti-black thread would be neither more nor less against specific individuals than the posts here. Both are against people, but on JUB it's okay to disrespect people for religious reasons but nor for racial ones, even though both are supposedly against the CofC.

Occasionally a post here will be based on actual correct ideas from/about a religion, and while they're still contrary to the CofC, at least they can be funny and not just make the one posting them look like an idiot.

The rationale is that a belief is not an integral part of a person only something you can put and take off, as with a hat while skin colour is something more essential, and can not be disguised.

People who do not understand that religious beliefs are just like belief in democracy or even skin colour, something that IS the individual, and even more so than physical appearance, do not know what they are dealing with when considering religious people: it's not about arguing and being rational, because beliefs are not so, and they are not exclusive to religion, nor more irrational and blind ... if you are shaken out of a belief, it is not through reason, even when you come to rationalize your blindness afterwards.

People who try to defend science by trying to rationally prove that it is something you MUST BELIEVE if you come to wake up to it, are being religious under a different pretense: they are betraying scientific thought by fossilizing it into a credo.

 

[Kulindahr]

Maybe they meant "Ulpian" library when they said "Julian"..?

That's the only large library that could have been in existence at the time of Gregory -- it's also known as Trajan's library since he ordered it built. But I don't think it was burned, nor did it ever have a hundred thousand books.

 

[belamyi]

That's the only large library that could have been in existence at the time of Gregory -- it's also known as Trajan's library since he ordered it built. But I don't think it was burned, nor did it ever have a hundred thousand books.

AS I said in my convoluted post about it, once you accept the irrational fact that the Catholic church started barbarism against Ancien learning and civilization, whatever myth you add won't seem out of place.

 

[Zeno Lorea]

Re: Funny anti-religious Internet pics

Great cartoon, but...

How come Americans always forget the final S on the word SAPIENS? "Sapien" is not a word!

 

[gsdx]

Re: Funny anti-religious Internet pics

^ It's not only Americans. Until this moment, when I Googled it, did I discover it was 'sapiens'.

 

[DantheManFL]

Re: Funny anti-religious Internet pics

Johan, you don't even know how much I appreciate all your posts!

 

[Alistair]

Re: Funny anti-religious Internet pics

Great cartoon, but...

How come Americans always forget the final S on the word SAPIENS? "Sapien" is not a word!

Most likely because of the English singular and plural.

 

[Zeno Lorea]

Re: Funny anti-religious Internet pics

Most likely because of the English singular and plural.

Well yes, I get that, but surely anyone who learns about the Homo Sapiens for the first time is immediately explained that it comes from Latin, what the words mean, and so on?

Every time I hear people who seem intelligent at first write or pronounce nonsense like homo sapien instead of sapiens, or ad nauseum instead of ad nauseam, or chaise lounge (barf) instead of chaise longue, I immediately tune out.

 

[belamyi]

Re: Funny anti-religious Internet pics

Most likely because of the English singular and plural.

What's that, Chinese use of "English" to refer to all Western languages? The English plural works exactly the same as that of some other Indoeuropean languages, most notably Spanish.

The funny thing is that it is Spaniards who would be expected to have problems with a two-letter final consonant cluster, because they are far rarer in their language than in English: the reason is simply that Latin is far foreign to an Anglo, and they are much less exposed to such terms, culturally like linguistically.
That is also the reason why Anglos would get amazed at Spaniards speaking English with shitty phonetics and just average expression, who would then drop Latinate-range terms which to Anglos may seem high-brown, and to a Spaniard, or even Italian, are just their own daily language with a funny pronunciation.

 

[belamyi]

Re: Funny anti-religious Internet pics

Well yes, I get that, but surely anyone who learns about the Homo Sapiens for the first time is immediately explained that it comes from Latin, what the words mean, and so on?

Every time I hear people who seem intelligent at first write or pronounce nonsense like homo sapien instead of sapiens, or ad nauseum instead of ad nauseam, or chaise lounge (barf) instead of chaise longue, I immediately tune out.

Since you introduced a French term, I feel like adding that my favourite case remains males being referred to as "masseuses".

 

[frankfrank]

Re: Funny anti-religious Internet pics

"Chaize lounj" is almost universal in the USA. I'm one of the few people I've ever known who actually pronounce the last word "long."

 

[Zeno Lorea]

Re: Funny anti-religious Internet pics

What's that, Chinese use of "English" to refer to all Western languages? The English plural works exactly the same as that of some other Indoeuropean languages, most notably Spanish.

And yet it is only North American native speakers of English who ever make the mistake of dropping the -S in sapiens. I've never heard anyone do it in Dutch, German, French or Portuguese. Nor do other English-speakers make the mistake in the UK, Eire, NZ or Australia. Nope. Never.

 

[belamyi]

Re: Funny anti-religious Internet pics

And yet it is only North American native speakers of English who ever make the mistake of dropping the -S in sapiens. I've never heard anyone do it in Dutch, German, French or Portuguese. Nor do other English-speakers make the mistake in the UK, Eire, NZ or Australia. Nope. Never.

It's because North-Americans are more linguistically evolved you know that everything we speak and write, in whatever language, is a downgrading (for example by dropping finals), of previous more sophisticatedly "cumbersome" stages of language

 

[belamyi]

Re: Funny anti-religious Internet pics

^ Am I too evolved there myself?

It seems more logical to consider the expression "linguistically evolved" as a whole and, therefore, to use the comparative, "more", lije that, than to set apart the adverb, as in "linguistically more evolved" or "more evolved linguistically"... with or without comma.