Discussion Thread from the Funny Anti-Religious Pictures thread.

[belamyi]

^ Oh, "in most cases", thank God... I mean, Yahveh... well, whatever.

 

[Kulindahr]

Actually the typical evangelical pastor has an income that's less than the typical evangelical churchgoer.

It's just that the exceptions have a tendency to be... egregious.

 

[gsdx]

Actually the typical evangelical pastor has an income that's less than the typical evangelical churchgoer.

It's just that the exceptions have a tendency to be... egregious.

The first ones are the real evangelical pastors. The exceptions are the fakes.

 

[belamyi]

^ You mean like the rich flock, who are fake evangelical, and an exception.

 

[Kulindahr]

The first ones are the real evangelical pastors. The exceptions are the fakes.

Of the thirty or so evangelical pastors I've known, a dozen had salaries below the poverty level, another dozen were at about 120% of that, and the rest not much more; one, who stuck through grad school to get a Master's in Theology and a Doctorate in Ministry, got almost twice the poverty level.
There was one that people accused of being rich -- until they were informed that his wife was a highly skilled doctor pulling in a hefty six-digit salary.

 

[belamyi]

Of the thirty or so evangelical pastors I've known, a dozen had salaries below the poverty level, another dozen were at about 120% of that, and the rest not much more; one, who stuck through grad school to get a Master's in Theology and a Doctorate in Ministry, got almost twice the poverty level.
There was one that people accused of being rich -- until they were informed that his wife was a highly skilled doctor pulling in a hefty six-digit salary.

We were talking income, not salaries, anyway.

 

[Kulindahr]

We were talking income, not salaries, anyway.

And just what income do you think a pastor with a salary near the poverty level has besides that salary?

 

[belamyi]

And just what income do you think a pastor with a salary near the poverty level has besides that salary?

If they can invent a religious sect, they can well invent that source of income, you are Anglos damn it, there are donations, paper litter for praying or soul-feeding... if you think a pastor even needs a salary, if you consider that a profession, you can well make up the rest. A pastor should be some sort of counselor, an on-the-side occupation, not a full-time one: don't go around complaining if you do not get real income for not having a real job. Otherwise you are reduce to the condition of a Buddhist monk.

 

[Kulindahr]

If they can invent a religious sect, they can well invent that source of income, you are Anglos damn it, there are donations, paper litter for praying or soul-feeding... if you think a pastor even needs a salary, if you consider that a profession, you can well make up the rest. A pastor should be some sort of counselor, an on-the-side occupation, not a full-time one: don't go around complaining if you do not get real income for not having a real job. Otherwise you are reduce to the condition of a Buddhist monk.

Every pastor I've ever known worked an 80 to 100-hour week. Just when are they supposed to squeeze in something else?

They're expected to be counselor, mediator, educator, organizer, cheerleader, and other things any one of which would be a full-time job.

And to extend things, every Catholic priest I've known works the same or longer hours.

Wait -- "invent a religious sect"? WTF are you talking about???

 

[belamyi]

Every pastor I've ever known worked an 80 to 100-hour week. Just when are they supposed to squeeze in something else?

They're expected to be counselor, mediator, educator, organizer, cheerleader, and other things any one of which would be a full-time job.

And to extend things, every Catholic priest I've known works the same or longer hours.

You mean they are God's housewives.
And their salaries go the same way.

Wait -- "invent a religious sect"? WTF are you talking about???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah's_Witnesses

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestantism_in_the_United_States

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[johaninsc]

and don't forget L. Ron Hubbard

 

[belamyi]

and don't forget L. Ron Hubbard

Proof on:

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[Zeno Lorea]

Re: Funny anti-religious Internet pics [2012 - 2021 Edition]

I'm reminded of those who tried to kill this thread a few years ago

This thread, or the actual FARIP thread?

 

[Araucaria]

Of the thirty or so evangelical pastors I've known, a dozen had salaries below the poverty level, another dozen were at about 120% of that, and the rest not much more; one, who stuck through grad school to get a Master's in Theology and a Doctorate in Ministry, got almost twice the poverty level.
There was one that people accused of being rich -- until they were informed that his wife was a highly skilled doctor pulling in a hefty six-digit salary.

In addition, pastors who work for denominations with a Congregational church polity; that is, with individual church governance, are hired and fired by those individual churches, and can be without a pastorate for months or even years, until they get hired again. Churches with this governance structure include Congregational, United Church of Christ, Unitarian-Universalist, Baptist, Metropolitan Community Churches (that's the "gay" church, for those unfamiliar with or who assume that all churches are anti-lgbt+) and I believe many Pentecostal churches, though I'm less familiar with those. Many pastors can go broke waiting to be "called" to a new church, and they can suffer damage to their credit scores while waiting.

As Kulindahr noted, pastors can have over 80 hour work weeks. What do you want them to do to supplement their income, moonlight at Target?

 

[belamyi]

^ No, just get a real work if they find money such a craving and bugging necessity: even shepherds do more of a real, useful work. Entertaining people's neuras and muddle-headedness should not be rewarded... yet, as we know, some of them manage to do very well: hey, why do not all of them, provided they are really not that greedy, turn themselves into televangelists able to provide more decent incomes to the people providing the "services" you two described there? Or just mimic the European Catholic Church: they lack the calling, but they still have enough money to support their pederasts and pederasts' friends; the Protestant heresies, on the contrary, seem to teem with "pastors" and, having less of a social stigma attached, could manage to raise more money than their rivals.

 

[Kulindahr]

Re: Funny anti-religious Internet pics [2012 - 2021 Edition]

This thread, or the actual FARIP thread?

The thread is contrary to JUB policy -- why it's permitted when no other category of people that the policy says you don't get to harass are allowed to be targeted is the question.

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^ No, just get a real work if they find money such a craving and bugging necessity: even shepherds do more of a real, useful work. Entertaining people's neuras and muddle-headedness should not be rewarded... yet, as we know, some of them manage to do very well: hey, why do not all of them, provided they are really not that greedy, turn themselves into televangelists able to provide more decent incomes to the people providing the "services" you two described there? Or just mimic the European Catholic Church: they lack the calling, but they still have enough money to support their pederasts and pederasts' friends; the Protestant heresies, on the contrary, seem to teem with "pastors" and, having less of a social stigma attached, could manage to raise more money than their rivals.

You, sir, have serious issues.

 

[belamyi]

Re: Funny anti-religious Internet pics [2012 - 2021 Edition]

You, sir, have serious issues.

You, sir, have no sense of humour

 

[belamyi]

Re: Funny anti-religious Internet pics [2012 - 2021 Edition]

The thread is contrary to JUB policy -- why it's permitted when no other category of people that the policy says you don't get to harass are allowed to be targeted is the question.

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You, sir, have serious issues.

In a more serious tone, "pastoral work" is a self-created necessity: material assistance or "spiritual" counseling do not necessarily need any given "church" to provide for it, and religious institutions basically serve themselves, while more or less appropiating for themselves the job to treat the problems of the needy in the name of their own made-up universe.

If you want to really help people, you do not need to wrap it up in "religion", "politics", "nation", "a cause", "charity"... and acting like an NGO, helping people, REALLY helping people, never made anyone rich. One helps people to help the needier, not to make "a decent living". It only soothes or, rather, tries to sooth the dysfunctional aspects of societies, but solving them would only do so in relation to the past, but will still obviously maintain some sort of dysfunctionality, since one can not create a utopian society without excreting some sort of dystopia on the side at the same time; besides, a society could never be perfect, because there would always be someone not agreeing with that notion and state of "perfection".

 

[johaninsc]

 

[frankfrank]

Re: Funny anti-religious Internet pics [2012 - 2021 Edition]

Who is the OE "welded" in "DOES" and not on "FETUS" (which is sometimes spelled with that strange "welded OE")?