Do NOT Buy the Homophobic Brainwashing Trash Book "The Power of Positive Thinking"

[T-Rexx]

This book is from 1952.

It was written by a guy born in 1898.

A lot has changed since then.

 

[MoufOfKhaos]

I haven't heard of this Peale guy either, but like others, I do read a page or two of a book before I buy it - how do you know it's worth reading if you don't get interested in it first?

I've no sympathy for your ineptitude. So, calm your ass down, take a deep breath, and return the book.

 

[asu1117]

I'll just go ahead and expand on this:


Do not buy any Self Help book.



They are all Pop Psychology garbage. Some mix in some ideals of faith or religion for good measure, but the thing they all have in common is that they don't really say anything. They generally repeat vague generalizations about life, positive thinking, health, etc. The only thing they're good for is making the author a quick buck. If you want something in this vein of book that might actually be useful find a book written by a Psychologist that isn't supposed to "guide" you, something that presents actual cited information and research.




And doing research about a book and author before making a purchase can go a long way.

 

[rareboy]

I would suggest, Frosty, that you might look for some guidance toward more positive and open-minded thinking based on this thread though. Your reaction is so negative and disproportionate to the responses.

The one classic self-help book you might enjoy reading is by this man.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Carnegie

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People

Enjoy it.

 

[Ganoderma]

I would suggest, Frosty, that you might look for some guidance toward more positive and open-minded thinking based on this thread though. Your reaction is so negative and disproportionate to the responses. The one classic self-help book you might enjoy reading is (...) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People

Dale Carnegie had alot of very modern insights?

Way back in 1936:
"Seven Rules For Making Your Home Life Happier (This section was included in the original 1936 edition but omitted from the revised 1981 edition)."
7. Read a good book on the sexual side of marriage.

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[SLOPPYSECONDS]

no idea books but whateva folks suckin defo Internet folkys nos postive

ans swim in each a other moan da pot ta boil

there go

hey no read

Kool

 

[Frosty]

Frosty, I feel ya. I understand you're mad, and you have a right to be. And I'm with you that just because the book, the message, and the writer has helped a lot of people doesn't excuse his bigoted, uneducated thoughts on sexuality (and how it may be used in the book, or not). Yes, it was from a different time period, but I can still see why that would be upsetting to you, and stuff like this is to me as well.
It reminds me of those 'mega-preachers' these days like that Joel Osteen, that sell Christianity like self-help pop psychology and make their millions from it... and then state their unfortunately ignorant beliefs on human sexuality and how it works (even those like Osteen that do with a smile on their face, which I think is even more condescending.) Sure, they help a lot of people, and that is a positive thing...doesn't excuse the ignorance though. And I wish more buyers of their products were educated on that. So I understand how you feel.

Perhaps a few posters here thought you were outright attacking Christianity/religion...and maybe they were rubbed the wrong way from it. You don't seem to be down with the whole religious thing, and that's fine...and I can understand how the book repeating that kind of rhetoric, when you certainly weren't expecting that, can throw you for a loop. True, it's good to be educated about what you're buying, but we can't all be perfect...and like you said, you bought it on a whim and it didn't put the religious message right out there. Just make sure you know now for the future, cause I've had the same thing happen. Religious products quite often these days masquerade as self-help products (I suppose in a way they are)...but some hide it really well until you get into it, particularly when you didn't go into it knowing anything about the author. I've had it happen. Just be cautious next time and always do your research. Lesson learned. Take care.

Thanks Paintact for your mature and nonbitchy reply. My intent on posting this thread was only to help others. I was planning to still read it even after reading the annoying intro that mentioned praying for happiness and relying on God for everything. If the book had good advice I would've taken it religious or not. I wouldn't had no problem if the book was really religious it's the homophobic brainwashing that really pissed me off.

 

[Frosty]

I haven't heard of this Peale guy either, but like others, I do read a page or two of a book before I buy it - how do you know it's worth reading if you don't get interested in it first?

I've no sympathy for your ineptitude. So, calm your ass down, take a deep breath, and return the book.

Like I said I bought it online. I don't want your fucking sympathy and wasn't asking for it.

 

[Frosty]

Well, just take this as a lesson learned. Next time you will at least read the bio on the back of the book.

I bought it online and read the product description on Amazon but yes, lesson learned.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Yes well your first clue to just how shitty this book was should have been the recommendation of Will Smith, him and his family i find repulsive.

cosign

 

[pat grimshaw]

Why is so many people hating on Will Smith?

Didn't he make a philosophical movie called 'The Pursuit of Happiness'?

 

[MoufOfKhaos]

Like I said I bought it online. I don't want your fucking sympathy and wasn't asking for it.

Nor was I giving it. See, this is why reading really IS fundamental.

No wonder you "need" a self help book - you seem to really need help.

 

[Ganoderma]

Thanks for the people who were nice in this thread. I really do need to just calm down from being pissed right now so i'll just return to this thread later today. As for rareboy and Hardup not trying to be rude? I don't believe it. I've seen them make snide remarks to countless people on here calling them dumb and stuff for no reason. They don't give a shit if they come off as rude and bitchy or not. They're not nice people.

Another thing that probably fed my anger was after reading the thread about Zachary Quinto coming out he mention a 14 year old who killed himself because of homophobia. I read all about that suicide for the first time and watched his "It gets better" video and that got me depressed so I decided to start reading this book thinking it would be positive but instead it's brainwashing people to be homophobic and it triggered my anger. I wasn't born in the 50's so forgive me if I haven't heard of the author before.

Hi Frosty,

I feel very sorry that you felt alot of anger when reading about a 14 year old who killed himself because of homophobia. For me, a guy living in The Netherlands, it is still very peculiar that there is so much reli-hate towards gay people. I don't understand at all why this is still the case, and I also feel very sad for all these guys / boys who suffer so much, because they happened to be born in such a reli-family.

I was also totally unfamiliar with the name of this author, though I am born in the 50's (but not in the US). Feel free to ask any other questions, see also the non-flame forum Coming Out, Relationships & Bisex Talk.

Best wishes & good luck.

 

[Frosty]

Hi Frosty,

I feel very sorry that you felt alot of anger when reading about a 14 year old who killed himself because of homophobia. For me, a guy living in The Netherlands, it is still very peculiar that there is so much reli-hate towards gay people. I don't understand at all why this is still the case, and I also feel very sad for all these guys / boys who suffer so much, because they happened to be born in such a reli-family.

I was also totally unfamiliar with the name of this author, though I am born in the 50's (but not in the US). Feel free to ask any other questions, see also the non-flame forum Coming Out, Relationships & Bisex Talk.

Best wishes & good luck.

Thanks Ganoderma.