do we actully die or do we get killed?

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

defo lot country got livin dead folk way befa theys like recyclin

 

[star-warrior]

We're all gonna die!!!

 

[freefall]

^

@OP: So you're suggesting our bodies are killing ourselves? Even when the basic cell theory affirms that, there are mechanisms that prevent spontaneous death.

And also, holding to that makes you seem so afraid of dying, which is so immature.

 

[geloge]

 

[bluboi89]

^

@OP: So you're suggesting our bodies are killing ourselves? Even when the basic cell theory affirms that, there are mechanisms that prevent spontaneous death.

And also, holding to that makes you seem so afraid of dying, which is so immature.

I'm not suggesting it, just asking myself and everyone here what you think about it.
I believe we are some kind of destroying ourselves on a daily basis as someone already said.
Our bodies have amazing self defense machanisms(some people appearently cured cancer by some raw vegan diets) to avoid death, but in the end we manage to break trough that machanism.
Maybe it's the food we are eating, the water we drink and the air we breathe.
And in the end it get's so unbearable we have to go to the hospital, get drugs and pass away.
For example if you look at a horse. He does nothing but eat grass and walk around and yet he has more muscle mass and is physically stronger than us. He's not drinking any protein shakes but just eating grass.

I'm not saying we'r stupid or whatever, but maybe the solution is simple. Eat things that are alive and live or eat things that are dead and die xD

 

[rareboy]

with ''killed by the medical system'' i don't mean doctors/nurses killing someone on purpose but doing their thing and eventually failing.
For example i forgot to mention the death of my grandmothers sister. They drove her to the hospital, cut her leg off and 1 week later she died.
One of the grandpas i meantion above died bcos he appearently ordered a ''insta death'' injection cos he was diagnosed by lung ''cancer'' whatever that may be anyway.
And the other grandpa died in the hospital bcos he had neck ''cancer'' and i don't know what happened futher X.X
So seriously, do we actully die?
And also im highly suspicious of the researches done on animals(Tigers live x years, dogs live x years, turles live x years and so on..)
I mean how can they track this? U can't just put a camera on an animal and watch it.. and there's so much information about the life expand on almost all living things. I doubt all this information is true/correct

 

[bluboi89]

..........

cute xD
hahaha

 

[MisterMajestic]

Some people die. Some people get killed AND die. Everyone who gets killed dies, whereas not everyone who dies gets killed. Plain as mud.

No it is not plain as Mud. My Uncle was Murdered years ago. When I talk about his death I do not tell people he died I tell them he was Murdered.

There is a BIG difference between dying of natural causes VS someone taking your Life.
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[kallipolis]

There is some substance to the OPs question.

Writing in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), Dr. Starfield has documented the tragedy of the traditional medical paradigm in the following statistics:

* The term iatrogenic is defined as "induced in a patient by a physician's activity, manner, or therapy. Used especially to pertain to a complication of treatment." Furthermore, these estimates of death due to error are lower than those in a recent Institutes of Medicine report.

If the higher estimates are used, the deaths due to iatrogenic causes would range from 230,000 to 284,000.

Even at the lower estimate of 225,000 deaths per year, this constitutes the third leading cause of death in the U.S.

http://www.yourmedicaldetective.com/public/335.cfm

 

[kallipolis]

Are sock puppets killed or do they die?

Are JUBBERs reincarnated with schizoid vocabulary as ruses?

Are banned JUBBERs seen to return in shadow?

There are so many to choose from, and one as likely as the next.

It's best to assume a philosophical understanding of death rather than focus too obsessively on the reasons, or causes of our demise concentrating on celebrating life rather than worrying over the inevitability of the grim reaper's visit.

 

[MarkDW]

No it is not plain as Mud. My Uncle was Murdered years ago. When I talk about his death I do not tell people he died I tell them he was Murdered.

There is a BIG difference between dying of natural causes VS someone taking your Life.
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Right! He was "killed". I have an uncle that died in his sleep from natural causes. He "died".

See the difference?

 

[freefall]

I'm not suggesting it, just asking myself and everyone here what you think about it.
I believe we are some kind of destroying ourselves on a daily basis as someone already said.
Our bodies have amazing self defense machanisms(some people appearently cured cancer by some raw vegan diets) to avoid death, but in the end we manage to break trough that machanism.
Maybe it's the food we are eating, the water we drink and the air we breathe.
And in the end it get's so unbearable we have to go to the hospital, get drugs and pass away.
For example if you look at a horse. He does nothing but eat grass and walk around and yet he has more muscle mass and is physically stronger than us. He's not drinking any protein shakes but just eating grass.

I'm not saying we'r stupid or whatever, but maybe the solution is simple. Eat things that are alive and live or eat things that are dead and die xD

First, the figure of 'suggesting' here does not mean you're forcing us something, so you pointing that out is kinda overreacting.

Second, if you pointed out something out there is important, then it's something else that is killing us, like bacteria, parasites, or toxic stuffs. Not a good reason for your premise.

Humans will die one day, but I really doubt it will be a self-destruct mechanism, as that is not the way our body is programmed to be.

Third, a bit out of topic, bodies are capable of turning one form of nutrients into the other. Perhaps horses only eats grass, but the nutrients inside it can be transformed into many other stuffs, including protein, which assembles muscles.

And last, I don't know, but you misspelt so many words and misplaced the punctuations. Go back to kindergarten.

 

[freefall]

There is some substance to the OPs question.

Writing in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), Dr. Starfield has documented the tragedy of the traditional medical paradigm in the following statistics:

* The term iatrogenic is defined as "induced in a patient by a physician's activity, manner, or therapy. Used especially to pertain to a complication of treatment." Furthermore, these estimates of death due to error are lower than those in a recent Institutes of Medicine report.

If the higher estimates are used, the deaths due to iatrogenic causes would range from 230,000 to 284,000.

Even at the lower estimate of 225,000 deaths per year, this constitutes the third leading cause of death in the U.S.

http://www.yourmedicaldetective.com/public/335.cfm

I don't think he's talking about this.

 

[palbert]

Is this an official avoid JQ thread? If so, it comes at a high price.

Eventually each of us cease to exist, so the enduring meaning of this thread is what? And who will know it?

 

[sleepsalot]

with ''killed by the medical system'' i don't mean doctors/nurses killing someone on purpose but doing their thing and eventually failing.

You didn't save them either...does that mean you killed them?

 

[kallipolis]

I don't think he's talking about this.

The OPs opening post specifically refers to medical causes of death with my post flowing from the OPs insinuations.

 

[kallipolis]

You didn't save them either...does that mean you killed them?

I recommend that you read this article so that you can become better informed:

http://www.yourmedicaldetective.com/public/335.cfm

 

[bluboi89]

At last! The answer to gaining instant muscle mass! Eat grass!

It was before our eyes all along, and so simple and effective! Damn that medical establishment! It sure pulled the wool over everyone's eyes! All we need is to eat grass!

Of course life expectancy will drop by 80 per cent, but what the hay.

think bout it! oil=old plants
oil=most powerful energy source atm

why not just eat those plants to get energy instead of processed food which makes us sick ;D

 

[Telstra]

lol, why don't cats or dogs eat plants?
thats is the answer.

 

[bluboi89]

lol, why don't cats or dogs eat plants?
thats is the answer.

i saw my dog bite on tall grass often
maybe we corrupted them as we corrupted ourselves with the tastefull and empty food