do we actully die or do we get killed?

[star-warrior]

Just in case you're wondering how long it takes for someone to die via morphine, both my parents had end stage kidney failure.

My dad had morphine administered and he died within 24 hours.

My mum was given morphine, and she lasted a week before breathing her last.

Both were eased out of their pain. Quality of life to the end in palliative care means that the patient should not needlessly suffer pain, when there are different pain control drugs available to ease their last days and hours...

 

[Telstra]

i saw my dog bite on tall grass often
maybe we corrupted them as we corrupted ourselves with the tastefull and empty food

Nope.
How about wild dogs and wild cats (tiger, lion) ?

 

[Kulindahr]

I'm not suggesting it, just asking myself and everyone here what you think about it.
I believe we are some kind of destroying ourselves on a daily basis as someone already said.
Our bodies have amazing self defense machanisms(some people appearently cured cancer by some raw vegan diets) to avoid death, but in the end we manage to break trough that machanism.
Maybe it's the food we are eating, the water we drink and the air we breathe.
And in the end it get's so unbearable we have to go to the hospital, get drugs and pass away.
For example if you look at a horse. He does nothing but eat grass and walk around and yet he has more muscle mass and is physically stronger than us. He's not drinking any protein shakes but just eating grass.

I'm not saying we'r stupid or whatever, but maybe the solution is simple. Eat things that are alive and live or eat things that are dead and die xD

For example, look at a cheetah. He does nothing but rip gazelles and things into raw meat and gobble it up, lay in the sun, and run after more meat. Yet he has more efficient muscles and is far, far faster than us. He's not drinking any vitamin water but just hogging down raw meat.

Dude, our ancestors ate things that were "alive" -- nuts and berries off the plant, meat right off the bone. And their life expectancy was less than a third of ours.

There is some substance to the OPs question.

Writing in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), Dr. Starfield has documented the tragedy of the traditional medical paradigm in the following statistics:

* The term iatrogenic is defined as "induced in a patient by a physician's activity, manner, or therapy. Used especially to pertain to a complication of treatment." Furthermore, these estimates of death due to error are lower than those in a recent Institutes of Medicine report.

If the higher estimates are used, the deaths due to iatrogenic causes would range from 230,000 to 284,000.

Even at the lower estimate of 225,000 deaths per year, this constitutes the third leading cause of death in the U.S.

http://www.yourmedicaldetective.com/public/335.cfm

Reads to me like we need to double the number of doctors so they have less of a load and thus time to be more careful.

 

[bluboi89]

Nope.
How about wild dogs and wild cats (tiger, lion) ?

They are actors infront of the camera ;D

 

[Telstra]

They are actors infront of the camera ;D

Yes, you are right.

 

[bluboi89]

For example, look at a cheetah. He does nothing but rip gazelles and things into raw meat and gobble it up, lay in the sun, and run after more meat. Yet he has more efficient muscles and is far, far faster than us. He's not drinking any vitamin water but just hogging down raw meat.

Dude, our ancestors ate things that were "alive" -- nuts and berries off the plant, meat right off the bone. And their life expectancy was less than a third of ours.




Reads to me like we need to double the number of doctors so they have less of a load and thus time to be more careful.

Now would you trust a scientist who found a ''3000 years old bone''(cos bones never dissolve) analyse it and say: hm, this one ate mostly red berries, followed by grass and red meat?

 

[bankside]

Yes.

Well, sometimes our deaths are just another daily result from the great genetic and behavioural gamble called "natural selection."

As humans we may be unique on this planet in understanding the mechanism of natural selection. But even other animals will often promote behaviour amongst their kin designed to thwart death and serve reproduction. And even other animals will sometimes invite natural selection to do its job at the earliest opportunity. The weakest of mind or limb are not always offered safe harbour by the rest.

So...umm....about that idea of surviving off the waves and the sunlight....

 

[bluboi89]

this survival of the fittest is bullshit
how come we dont have dinosaurs walking around nowdays
oh right, there was a huge meteor...suuure.
We, humans dont know shit. The only thing wer good at is destroying. And making life. Make life, destroy life. Make life, destroy life. loloo fun fun ;O

 

[kallipolis]

It's best . . . . to focus on my text quoted in your post: it was plain that I was focused on stating that the OP is a sock puppet.

I always assume a much less suspicious response - despite agreeing that your description is also valid.

 

[bluboi89]

ima eat them plantz and get big

 

[justaguy]

There is a BIG difference between dying of natural causes VS someone taking your Life.

I agree Majestic. There is a big difference. That was the point I was trying to make really.

 

[palbert]

None of the above is true. We are preserved in photographs stuck to a wall or crammed between the pages of some unopened book.

We never lived and we never died. The rest is imaginary.

 

[chrisw87]

At last! The answer to gaining instant muscle mass! Eat grass!

...

Of course life expectancy will drop by 80 per cent, but what the hay.

 

[Kulindahr]

this survival of the fittest is bullshit
how come we dont have dinosaurs walking around nowdays
oh right, there was a huge meteor...suuure.
We, humans dont know shit. The only thing wer good at is destroying. And making life. Make life, destroy life. Make life, destroy life. loloo fun fun ;O

I want to know what you're on.






So I can make sure I never, EVER touch it.

 

[eveningstandard]

where are you from bluboi ?

 

[bankside]

Never underestimate the power of an inadequate teacher.

 

[cliffdweller]

Wait...is the OP suggesting that if everyone just eats grass, that we'll all live forever?

 

[Kulindahr]

Wait...is the OP suggesting that if everyone just eats grass, that we'll all live forever?

Maybe he's suggesting that if we all smoked grass, we'd think we were living forever.

 

[cliffdweller]

I swear, every time I think there couldn't be a dumber thread on JUB, along comes one to prove me wrong.

 

[rareboy]