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do we actully die or do we get killed?

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Assuming you're actually old enough to be here...

just what did you do with your life while you were supposed to be going to school?

i can't remember them telling me what vaccines are made from in school. do you?
 
Yes -- in grade school, ion middle school, and in high school.

On top of that, it gets explained on the news every fall when the new flu shots come out.

mind telling me what they are made from than ;O?
 
Kulindahr you have some stamina. My brain melted after page 5 and I couldn't continue.

Answering Bluboi's questions is about as productive as an employee of the British Motor Corporation.
 
they basiclly inject you with bunch of crap that causes cancer
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they basiclly inject you with bunch of crap that causes cancer
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Didn't even have three minutes for research, huh?

They basically inject you with substances selected to be non-reactive in virtually all humans, laced with dead or broken pieces of the organisms the vaccine is meant to protect against.

Go ahead -- do some actual research.
 
but organisms change and mutate all the time
let's say virus x is dangerous to human health
they kill the virus or weaken it and put it in the vaccine(so your body gets used to fight a DEAD/WEAKENED virus, that is completley different than the living one)
virus x now becomes virus y due to change
virus y enters ur body
vaccine becomes TOTALLY useless
u get the vaccine injection and get sick for a day, cos ur body needs to fight off all the junk
medical association ; $$KA CHING$$

all this bird flu, sars and whatnot has been made up or designed to sell meds
really if you think about it, it's pretty bad
i rather don't watch tv anyway
 
but organisms change and mutate all the time
let's say virus x is dangerous to human health
they kill the virus or weaken it and put it in the vaccine(so your body gets used to fight a DEAD/WEAKENED virus, that is completley different than the living one)
virus x now becomes virus y due to change
virus y enters ur body
vaccine becomes TOTALLY useless
u get the vaccine injection and get sick for a day, cos ur body needs to fight off all the junk
medical association ; $ CHING$$

all this bird flu, sars and whatnot has been made up or designed to sell meds
really if you think about it, it's pretty bad
i rather don't watch tv anyway

A standard flu vaccine will be effective through three or four mutations of the virus itself. They make new vaccines every year because they assume people would rather find out that the flu that year was no big deal than find out it was by killing millions of people.

You "rather don't watch tv"? Seems you "rather don't" do anything that might get you informed. So until you show some signs of at least engaging with real sources of what's going on in the world, I'm going to do something more valuable with my time, like play Age of Empires II, Conquerors expansion.
 
A standard flu vaccine will be effective through three or four mutations of the virus itself. They make new vaccines every year because they assume people would rather find out that the flu that year was no big deal than find out it was by killing millions of people.

You "rather don't watch tv"? Seems you "rather don't" do anything that might get you informed. So until you show some signs of at least engaging with real sources of what's going on in the world, I'm going to do something more valuable with my time, like play Age of Empires II, Conquerors expansion.

lawl, and yet i'm still alive even though i didn't inject myself with crap... oh maybe that's why ! ;O
i watch tv occasionally, and from experience i can tell you. they'r selling you bullshit.
tv is the worst source of information EVER. it's like a religion. they brainwash you until you believe everything said on tv is true.
don't u get it?
the lie may not be obvius, but mostly it's lies..
just look at the commercials .. for womans hair for exmaple -.-
 
lawl, and yet i'm still alive even though i didn't inject myself with crap... oh maybe that's why ! ;O
i watch tv occasionally, and from experience i can tell you. they'r selling you bullshit.
tv is the worst source of information EVER. it's like a religion. they brainwash you until you believe everything said on tv is true.
don't u get it?
the lie may not be obvius, but mostly it's lies..
just look at the commercials .. for womans hair for exmaple -.-



What the heck is wrong with you? He was mentioning that YOU don't research anything, not that HE gets his information from the TV.

Congratulations, your immune system provided a sufficient response to the flu if you got it, or you didn't get it at all. Young children and the elderly at the highest at risk and thus it is usually recommended for them.

Here is the TL;DR version of a vaccine since you are a troll or fell asleep through school.

1. Give the body a dead or broken sample of what causes issues, e.g. the flu virus.
2. The body's immune system goes OHHH BOY an enemy.
3. repeat if necessary until the body's immune system has an immune response to that issue.

Go read something educational you sped.
 

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I don't trust the "Flu-Vaccine"...Never have, never will...I havent had the Flu since I was kid...They give out Flu shots on my job every year and my 45yr old Co-worker gets one annually..She gets sick after the shot then eventually starts feeling better...

If the Flu-shot works for you then by all-means get that "boost"..Your Primary Physician can administer the shot or you can go to any CVS-clinic..
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I don't trust the "Flu-Vaccine"...Never have, never will...I havent had the Flu since I was kid...They give out Flu shots on my job every year and my 45yr old Co-worker gets one annually..She gets sick after the shot then eventually starts feeling better...

If the Flu-shot works for you then by all-means get that "boost"..Your Primary Physician can administer the shot or you can go to any CVS-clinic..
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I don't get the flu vaccine because I am in the prime of my healthy so to speak with a good immune system.

I also do not know the validity on what Kulindahr said about it preventing up to x-amounts of mutations of the virus, however I've always been of the school of thought that it was a redundant form of vaccine as it was designed from a previous mutation.

Saying that, for vaccines I am speaking of;

*Tetanus
*Polio
*Hepatitis (used to be a police officer)
*Measles
*Mumps
*Rubella

Suffering a slight sickness or pain, inflammation etc can be quite common on many vaccines, not sure on the flu vaccine however as it is usually a dead immunization.
 
I don't trust the "Flu-Vaccine"...Never have, never will...I havent had the Flu since I was kid...They give out Flu shots on my job every year and my 45yr old Co-worker gets one annually..She gets sick after the shot then eventually starts feeling better...

In a way the whole vaccine thing is like a game of Russian roulette with a couple million chambers in the cylinder. In any population, for any given stimulus, there will be individuals out on the statistical fringes, where some will react badly, and others will react superbly. It's even possible a vaccine could trigger a mutation -- in fact given the amount of viral DNA we seem to have in our genome, it's almost certainly happened in the past.

A friend of my parents faithfully got his flu shot every year after he turned 55, until one when he decided he was just too busy. That was the year he got the flu, and it turned into pneumonia. But most people never get the flu whether they get the shot or not; applying any individual's experience to the effectiveness of the vaccine is useless -- it's a statistical thing.

I don't get the flu vaccine because I am in the prime of my healthy so to speak with a good immune system.

I also do not know the validity on what Kulindahr said about it preventing up to x-amounts of mutations of the virus, however I've always been of the school of thought that it was a redundant form of vaccine as it was designed from a previous mutation.

I guess I wasn't clear. The vaccine doesn't prevent mutations; the situation is that it takes more than one mutation to change the virus enough to where the body's immune system isn't prepared against the newcomer.

The premise of the annual flu shot is that no one year's mutation(s) will change the virus enough that a vaccine from the previous year's strains will protect everyone. I think the standard version is actually based on more than just the one year's main virus, to sort of cover the bases.

The one big fear is a virus that jumps from humans to livestock, mutates, then jumps back into the human population and spreads uninhibitedly. Viruses jump that way all the time, but they rarely turn out capable of jumping from human to human easily.

I saw an article where they were using statistical methods to try to guess which direction a virus might mutate. The goal was to be able to make a vaccine more able to meet what the new years might bring. Not everyone is convinced the idea is practical, the big reason being that if you put too many 'flavors' in one dose of vaccine, the body may not react to any of them at all enough to confer protection -- making the vaccine useless.
 
I guess I wasn't clear. The vaccine doesn't prevent mutations; the situation is that it takes more than one mutation to change the virus enough to where the body's immune system isn't prepared against the newcomer.
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No my wording in my post wasn't the best.

What I actually meant was that I am not sure what to believe when it comes to that vaccine providing your body with the ability to detect the flu virus with x-amounts of mutations from the virus that was used initially.

I have not studied that and frankly it is just because I am too lazy and haven't had the initiative. If it does provide a sufficient immuno-response against those slightly mutated strains then I would approve of the move for more education for the young, weak and elderly to receive it.

However saying that, for a healthy person in their prime with a good immune system, the common flu usually shouldn't be a problem. There is exceptions of course, but for the majority of the mutations this is how I feel. If there is a sufficient amount of the vaccine sure offer it for free / cheap to the rest of the populous but those other 3 categories take priority.
 
IF vaccines would work, it WOULD be easy to make an anti HIV vaccine.
u sample HIV, kill it, inject it. problem solved
don't u think?
 
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