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Do you believe what you see or what others tell you you saw?

^^ It would've taken a long time to wire WTC7. And somebody would've seen something.

Footage that kills the conspiracy theories: Unseen 9/11 footage shows WTC Building 7 consumed by fire
Daily Mail
 
This is not a debate. WTC 7 was deliberately pulled, as admitted by Larry Silverstein. That is not the issue. The issue is how could've it been pulled in such a short period of time?
 
mikey3000 said:
Impossible? No plane hit WTC 7 yet it came down just hours later. We all saw it live.

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Yet you say that this building, WTC 7 came down just like this on it's own accord within mere hours of the event, even after the leaseholder admitted on national TV he made the decision to pull it? Man, you are not making sense.
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Firstly, religion and God are not a conspiracy theories.

Secondly, I am saying that your claims of planning, preparing, and bringing down the WTC7 building in one day is impossible. I've already explained what is necessary to bring down a building of that size. That cannot be done in one day. I-M-P-O-S-S-I-B-L-E. And if you refuse to even try to research the topic, you deserve everything that comes your way.

Besides, it's 'Conspiracy THEORY'. You're stating it as 'Conspiracy FACT'. Theories are meant to be proved or disproved. We've disproved your theory. You have yet to prove it. Do a bit of homework, study up on building demolitions and implosions, and then come back and tell us how they did it in one day.
 
jbrown329 said:
When I was in college (auto mechanics), I pulled my Honda into the shop to do a compression test. You don't do a 'normal' compression test. You screw the hose of the compression gauge into the spark plug hole. Then you crank the engine until the gauge quits rising. Here comes one of the instructors, Mr. Johnson, who was an idiot. He says "you're doing it wrong, that's not they way you do it". I reached in the driver's window and grabbed the Mechanic's Manual (the manual that the Honda dealership used) and proved his ass wrong. Well, thereafter he flunked me in every class that he taught. I did not get my degree. He got a quart of methanol in the gas tank. Hope he enjoyed rebuilding the engine.
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...the fuck did he think all those different make n'model specific manuals at autozone were for, shits n'giggles?
 
Neil, It's a really easy question, yes or no. Did WTC 7 come down on September 11, 2001?
 
^ When have I ever said that it didn't? That is not in dispute here. What IS in dispute is your assertion that this nonsense theory is a fact. That it HAD to happen. You asked us if we believe what we see or what we've been told. Now you're telling us to believe what you're telling us instead of what we know. I know that what you claim to be true cannot have happened and couldn't happen now, even with today's technology. To do what you claim was done would defy the laws of physics. That's why it's impossible.

Now, offer up some proof of your own instead of challenging ours.
 
I'm not telling any one anything, you are. This is a discussion board. Here we discuss. Man, you exhaust me.

Ok, so we agree that the building WTC 7 came down on 9/11. Can we agree that it takes months of expert planning and preparation to bring a building of that stature down in a controlled manner?
 
mikey3000 said:
Ok, so we agree that the building WTC 7 came down on 9/11. Can we agree that it takes months of expert planning and preparation to bring a building of that stature down in a controlled manner?
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Dare I say that's what I've been telling you throughout this thread? I've also been telling you that it couldn't be done in secrecy. People would know. And they certainly couldn't do it while the building was occupied.
 
Gee, iron construction fails under conditions of heat ... such as happens in a fire. It's something the Victorians noted, some while back.

Gee, there's a limit to how much weight a structural member will bear. It's something I imagine the ancients figured out, one of the first few times a roof collapsed on them.

Anyone up for trying to rediscover the concept of the wheel?
 
LittleDove said:
Gee, iron construction fails under conditions of heat ... such as happens in a fire. It's something the Victorians noted, some while back.

Gee, there's a limit to how much weight a structural member will bear. It's something I imagine the ancients figured out, one of the first few times a roof collapsed on them.

Anyone up for trying to rediscover the concept of the wheel?
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Oh, I'm sure there'll be a taker or two in the thread.
 
gsdx said:
Dare I say that's what I've been telling you throughout this thread? I've also been telling you that it couldn't be done in secrecy. People would know. And they certainly couldn't do it while the building was occupied.
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Well, The Manhattan Project was kept pretty hush hush and that involved tens of thousands of people and three foreign powers, but that's neither here nor there (for now).

Ok, so we agree that WTC 7 came down on 9/11. We also agree that it takes many months of expert preparation to make such a large building come down in a controlled setting.

Visual evidence and testimony from other renowned demolition experts, as well as the admission from the leaseholder tells us that the building in question was deliberately "pulled" for safety reasons. We all watched this live on TV. This is a fact and is not debatable.

So how can this all happen if it wasn't pre planned?

And by the way, you may wanna check out Operation Northwoods .
 
mikey3000 said:
Well, The Manhattan Project was kept pretty hush hush and that involved tens of thousands of people and three foreign powers, but that's neither here nor there (for now).
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When will you stop? The Manhattan Project didn't involve demolishing the lower floors' supporting walls of WTC7. Such destruction is necessary and is not quiet, nor is it invisible. Everybody in the building would know something was going on, and anybody in the vicinity would see it.

You can't keep that a secret. It's impossible.

Now, I've already apologised to a mod for your 'Canadian Law' fiasco. I refuse to apologise again. So I'm done. Believe whatever the hell you want. You will never be wrong in your own mind. Education is wasted on you, as is trying to educate you, so blissfully free from the wrath of intelligence.
 
If someone had blabbed about the Manhattan Project, they would've been charged with treason and probably executed. That is a very large incentive to keep one's mouth shut.
 
gsdx said:
When will you stop? The Manhattan Project didn't involve demolishing the lower floors' supporting walls of WTC7. Such destruction is necessary and is not quiet, nor is it invisible. Everybody in the building would know something was going on, and anybody in the vicinity would see it.

You can't keep that a secret. It's impossible.

Now, I've already apologised to a mod for your 'Canadian Law' fiasco. I refuse to apologise again. So I'm done. Believe whatever the hell you want. You will never be wrong in your own mind. Education is wasted on you, as is trying to educate you, so blissfully free from the wrath of intelligence.
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So, in other words, you can't explain it. Ok. Thank you!

BTW, why did you apologize to a mod? Were you rude and belligerent to him too?
 
LittleDove said:
Gee, iron construction fails under conditions of heat ... such as happens in a fire. It's something the Victorians noted, some while back.

Gee, there's a limit to how much weight a structural member will bear. It's something I imagine the ancients figured out, one of the first few times a roof collapsed on them.

Anyone up for trying to rediscover the concept of the wheel?
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We should move on how the Moon Landing was fake and Stanley Kubrick actually filmed it.
 
The truth is that Squirrels were actually responsible for bringing down the WTC..... The whole Al Qaeda/Taliban crap was a smokescreen! Them squirrels is very bright that way. They always find themselves a patsy to take the fall, while they plan and scheme........ Squirrels I tell ya, our ever loyal friends the dogs know. They try and protect us from the squirrels, but we don't pay any heed, we pull our faithful friends back as they charge in to take the fight directly to the squirrels themselves.....

Squirrels are evil!


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mikey3000 said:
So, in other words, you can't explain it. Ok. Thank you!

BTW, why did you apologize to a mod? Were you rude and belligerent to him too?
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Yes, we CAN explain it. We HAVE explained it. You just haven't bothered to read it.

And about the mod? NOYFB.
 
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