Do you believe what you see or what others tell you you saw?

[kallipolis]

Benjamin's mother in Pelham, New York, however, was more willing to talk. Asked if Benjamin was related to the new Secretary of Homeland Security, Judy said, "Yes, of course, he is a cousin."

Benjamin made a public statement denying that he, and Michael are cousins.

As I have previously stated were Michael involved in a cover up for a conspiracy to destroy The Twin Towers, his last thought would include his alleged cousin in the plot.

You'll have to do better than the stuff you've posted to excite our interest.

 

[gsdx]

Do you really think he'd admit they are cousins?

You're going to fight this to your dying breath, aren't you?

You haven't submitted a single iota of evidence proving that your 'theory' is true. We have submitted bucket loads of evidence proving your 'theory' is false. You expect us to believe that your suppositions are at least possible when the evidence proves that it cannot be, yet you question scientific fact and evidence and refuse to believe that it is at least possible.

The more we prove you wrong, the more desperate you become and the harder you push the same old suppositions without ever providing anything new.

Believe what you want, but it was 15 years ago and this crap should not be brought up yet again to diminish the event. We watched it happen. We know how it happened, and it didn't happen the way you are trying to convince us that it happened.

By the way, you keep pushing the 'thermite' thing and the melted iron. Do some homework. Thermite doesn't cut through anything. It melts its way through. Have you ever seen thermite in action? Here's a short version of the Mythbusters using 1,000 pounds of thermite to burn through and SUV. The full version (with infinitely more information) is available on YouTube:

If you watched the video, you would have heard discussion of the UV rays being so dangerous that you can't even look at the reaction without protection. This was 1,000 pounds of thermite. To bring down a building the size of WTC7, a lot more thermite would have been needed, and, with that volume of burning thermite, everybody in New York City would have seen it, and many would have suffered serious eye damage.

By the way, if you Google the WTC and thermite, you will find site after site debunking it. Again, it's an impossible theory.

There is nothing, and I repeat 'nothing', that you present that we can't debunk with scientific fact.

 

[rareboy]

Do you really think he'd admit they are cousins?

No surprise that you'd be a reader of the American Free Press.

The Southern Poverty Law Center considers it a hate group[10] and claims that it "carries stories on Zionism, secret 'New World Order' conspiracies, American Jews and Israel."[11] One of the newspaper's ex-contract reporters, Christopher Bollyn, is sometimes cited for his reporting in the 9/11 Truth Movement. The Anti-Defamation League has criticised the newspaper and, in particular, Bollyn for linking of prominent figures in the Jewish community with the events of September 11, 2001, and in September 2006 attacked the newspaper for disseminating "antisemitic propaganda".[12]

Writers for the newspaper include Michael Collins Piper, whose work has been characterized as anti-semitic[3] and James P. Tucker, Jr., a longtime Spotlight reporter whose focus is the Bilderberg Group. Articles by Carto also appear occasionally. James Edwards, who now hosts The Political Cesspool (broadcast as a service of the neo-Nazi Stormfront) was also a former writer for the newspaper.

So some whackos from a garbage publication make up shit to support their completely naked anti-semitic agenda and you take it as gospel....but let hundreds of qualified and independent scientists and forensics experts independently publish their analyses or concurrent opinions on the results of analytic evidence based studies and you can't bend your head around it.

 

[mikey3000]

You're going to fight this to your dying breath, aren't you?

You haven't submitted a single iota of evidence proving that your 'theory' is true. We have submitted bucket loads of evidence proving your 'theory' is false. You expect us to believe that your suppositions are at least possible when the evidence proves that it cannot be, yet you question scientific fact and evidence and refuse to believe that it is at least possible.

The more we prove you wrong, the more desperate you become and the harder you push the same old suppositions without ever providing anything new.

Believe what you want, but it was 15 years ago and this crap should not be brought up yet again to diminish the event. We watched it happen. We know how it happened, and it didn't happen the way you are trying to convince us that it happened.

By the way, you keep pushing the 'thermite' thing and the melted iron. Do some homework. Thermite doesn't cut through anything. It melts its way through. Have you ever seen thermite in action? Here's a short version of the Mythbusters using 1,000 pounds of thermite to burn through and SUV. The full version (with infinitely more information) is available on YouTube:

If you watched the video, you would have heard discussion of the UV rays being so dangerous that you can't even look at the reaction without protection. This was 1,000 pounds of thermite. To bring down a building the size of WTC7, a lot more thermite would have been needed, and, with that volume of burning thermite, everybody in New York City would have seen it, and many would have suffered serious eye damage.

By the way, if you Google the WTC and thermite, you will find site after site debunking it. Again, it's an impossible theory.

There is nothing, and I repeat 'nothing', that you present that we can't debunk with scientific fact.

You have submitted nothing that I and millions of others haven't countered. I've proven that the PM article is a joke, bought and paid for by the Secretary of Homeland Security. No one has provided any ADDITIONAL evidence beside the PM article to prove otherwise. And your above video only lends support that thermite was used in the demolition. Nano Thermite was discovered in the debris. That is a fact, not opinion. There are literally thousands of professional architects and engineers from around the world who can disprove the "official" accounts. You google it.

Benjamin made a public statement denying that he, and Michael are cousins.

As I have previously stated were Michael involved in a cover up for a conspiracy to destroy The Twin Towers, his last thought would include his alleged cousin in the plot.

You'll have to do better than the stuff you've posted to excite our interest.

Your logic is way off. Why wouldn't Benjamin, a young and aspiring journalist want his name attached to such an investigation. It could've made his career. But of course after the sham was discovered, he denied they were cousins. Benjamin left PM shortly after the fact was made public.

Another interesting fact. All air traffic over North America was shut down for days, all except for prominent Saudi citizens and members of the Saudi Royal family. But just recently, the famous missing 28 pages from the "Official 9/11 Report" have been declassified to show involvement by Saudi Arabia in the 9/11 attacks.

I believe that those who oppose conspiracies of any kind just simply can't grasp the notion because it goes against everything they were taught about the world in their status quo schooling. Sad really.

 

[gsdx]

You have submitted nothing that I and millions of others haven't countered. I've proven that the PM article is a joke, bought and paid for by the Secretary of Homeland Security. No one has provided any ADDITIONAL evidence beside the PM article to prove otherwise. And your above video only lends support that thermite was used in the demolition. Nano Thermite was discovered in the debris. That is a fact, not opinion. There are literally thousands of professional architects and engineers from around the world who can disprove the "official" accounts. You google it.

You, my friend, can just go fuck yourself with your bullshit.

Have a nice live.

 

[mikey3000]

^ Yup, typical geezer. So mature. Ha ha ha!!! "Get off my lawn you whipper-snapper."

 

[G-Lexington]

You, my friend, can just go fuck yourself with your bullshit.

Have a nice live.

WE HAVE A TAP-OUT!

Official winner - non-mainstream school of thought!

Lex

 

[PacificBeach]

Wouldn't you want your lawyer to be creative and think outside the box? Telling a good story to develop reasonable doubt is what it's all about. And I earn a good living doing just that, thank you very much.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want a lawyer that uses legal precedent, not "unique" courtroom antics to win a case. You've been watching too many episodes of Brady Bunch, with Mike Brady as lawyer, and CSI, CYA, and Dexter.

Which district or districts of the US federal court system are you licensed to practice law in front of a judge or jury? You've already claimed you're a trial attorney, so you might as well tell us which US districts you're licensed in. After all, you might pick up new business here at JUB. LOL!

 

[rareboy]

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want a lawyer that uses legal precedent, not "unique" courtroom antics to win a case. You've been watching too many episodes of Brady Bunch, with Mike Brady as lawyer, and CSI, CYA, and Dexter.

Which district or districts of the US federal court system are you licensed to practice law in front of a judge or jury? You've already claimed you're a trial attorney, so you might as well tell us which US districts you're licensed in. After all, you might pick up new business here at JUB. LOL!

He claims to practise law in Toronto, Ontario.

 

[rareboy]

^ Yup, typical geezer. So mature. Ha ha ha!!! "Get off my lawn you whipper-snapper."

Says the guy who has me on ignore so that he doesn't have to respond to actual evidence with any real factual arguments to support his Reynolds Wrapped theories.

Pitiful.

Or pitiable. I can't really decide which fits best.

 

[mikey3000]

Oh Waaaaa!! Thank you every one. Waaaaaaa haaaa haa!

 

[luckynumbah7]

Apropos of nothing, are ambulance chasers considered trial lawyers?

 

[mikey3000]

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want a lawyer that uses legal precedent, not "unique" courtroom antics to win a case. You've been watching too many episodes of Brady Bunch, with Mike Brady as lawyer, and CSI, CYA, and Dexter.

How do you think precedents are set?

 

[rareboy]

Well having worked with real lawyers over the years....case law precedents aren't set by some jumped up paralegal pulling nonsense out of their ass without being required to provide an exhaustive factual basis for their argument.

The fact that you think so and the fact that you are now calling another poster 'Retard' only confirms what I've thought all along.

 

[PacificBeach]

Well having worked with real lawyers over the years....case law precedents aren't set by some jumped up paralegal pulling nonsense out of their ass without being required to provide an exhaustive factual basis for their argument.

The fact that you think so only confirms what I've thought all along.

Exactly! Look, I'm just a corporate VP marketing schmuck, but have sat in way more meetings with legal than I would ever care to, and no one at the corporate level is interested in "creating legal precedent" as a legal strategy. If you have to rely on creating new precedent, you're screwed, settle the case and move on. *SMH* Not to mention there are no surprises in the courtroom. With the awful amount of discovery, depositions, cross examination in depositions, etc... there are no surprises to spring on a jury. That's TV lawyer drama B.S.

 

[jbrown329]

You have submitted nothing that I and millions of others haven't countered. I've proven that the PM article is a joke, bought and paid for by the Secretary of Homeland Security. No one has provided any ADDITIONAL evidence beside the PM article to prove otherwise. And your above video only lends support that thermite was used in the demolition. Nano Thermite was discovered in the debris. That is a fact, not opinion. There are literally thousands of professional architects and engineers from around the world who can disprove the "official" accounts. You google it.

Your logic is way off. Why wouldn't Benjamin, a young and aspiring journalist want his name attached to such an investigation. It could've made his career. But of course after the sham was discovered, he denied they were cousins. Benjamin left PM shortly after the fact was made public.

Another interesting fact. All air traffic over North America was shut down for days, all except for prominent Saudi citizens and members of the Saudi Royal family. But just recently, the famous missing 28 pages from the "Official 9/11 Report" have been declassified to show involvement by Saudi Arabia in the 9/11 attacks.

I believe that those who oppose conspiracies of any kind just simply can't grasp the notion because it goes against everything they were taught about the world in their status quo schooling. Sad really.

 

[luckynumbah7]

For a lawyer he's really missing what 'to counter' means. Those thought processes reminds me of my father on a bender. He's got the exact same beliefs - and reasoning capabilities.