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Do you Feel a sense of Community? LGBTQ or not.

PipRosi

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I'm planning to move to a supposed gay mecca (I say supposed because shit's sure changed since Harvey Milk... :bartshock yuppie invasion), and it has me thinking about how many folks in this cold, cold (or no, warming, warming) capitalist world feel a sense of community where they live. Do you feel connected to a vibrant kind of larger family/network/web/ community where you live? Like peeps you can meet down at The Bronze with, plan how to save the world and who has the cutest butt etc.?

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I regularly go to some of the gay bars in Birmingham with my boyfriend. Some of the bar staff and a few regular customers know us, but other than that I wouldn't say I particularly feel a sense of community there. The bars are within the so-called Gay Quarter, but that's commercial rather than residential. The other gay guys I know don't live in any sort of gay ghetto or whatever.

I live outside the city centre in what passes for a nice area by Birmingham standards. I chat to some of my neighbours when I see them, but don't feel a sense of community here either. Where I live is handy for the train station and the supermarket, but that's about it.
 
Yes and no.

We have been part of and apart from our rural community over the years.

What we have found is that as one generation is dying out, another generation is leaving the community to go to school and work and we are getting older, there is a lot less 'community' out here. The loss of religion and closures of churches and everyone's self-pre-occupation has led to a huge drop in socialization.
 
I knew I wasn't the only one finding our city and town scenes getting especially bleak in the 2000s. Though I have a French penpal who is always sending me scenes of his active and diverse group of cinema workmates and pals, putting together various shindigs.
 
Nope, not since they started adding all those meaningless letters.
LGB was quite enough for me to identify with
 
Nope, not since they started adding all those meaningless letters.
LGB was quite enough for me to identify with

I must agree. It seems that people are making things complicated and confusing, just for the sake of being complicated and confusing.
 
Nope, not since they started adding all those meaningless letters.
LGB was quite enough for me to identify with

There is apparently an anti-trans movement among a sub-segment of the gay community. One of my FB friends posts a lot of links and stuff about it. He's normally pretty liberal in his thinking, but when he gets on this tangent, he sounds like Greg Abbott. I think he has some issues himself, but I just scroll on by, mostly.

Maybe it's just because I'm old, but I find the gay community's adoption "queer" to be offensive. Queer is still the equivalent of "faggot" in my mind, and I really don't like it all.
 
There is apparently an anti-trans movement among a sub-segment of the gay community. One of my FB friends posts a lot of links and stuff about it. He's normally pretty liberal in his thinking, but when he gets on this tangent, he sounds like Greg Abbott. I think he has some issues himself, but I just scroll on by, mostly.

I think all these sub letters are just fragmenting the community and destroying it
As for the whole trans activism, well it seems to me it has been highjacked by a load of I-am-offended-on-your-behalf idiots. Most real transsexuals just want to get on with their lives quietly.
My other beef about the trans movement is that the term trans has been used as an umbrella for a whole group of unrelated types.
Transexuals are not in any way related to transvestites. Equally they are neither of them related to those who choose to dress in a non-conforming way. And yet they are all lumped together

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I must agree. It seems that people are making things complicated and confusing, just for the sake of being complicated and confusing.

Exactly!
 
In Amsterdam, the only city with a sizable LGBT culture for hundreds of kilometers (remember, this is Europe and this swath of land encompasses about half a dozen countries) various LGBT subcultures are very segregated at this point.

Activism is still very much alive. but compared to twenty-five years ago gay organizations have severely declined.

I like going to (non-gay, but very LGBT-friendly at this point) church, and every once in a while I go to the squatters cafe Vrankrijk's LGBT evening (very anti-church and even more in decline).
 
Nope, not since they started adding all those meaningless letters.
LGB was quite enough for me to identify with

Why stop there.

H for homo was good enough on its own. Homosexual is homosexual. Male or female or whether one is only occasionally homosexual.
 
I live in Wilton Manors (a gay community inside of Fort Lauderdale Florida) - there is a large presence of community here - I came here specifically to live in a gay environment after the gay community in Baltimore had all but crumbled - it is considered the second largest gay community in the country after SanFran - it is a great and safe place to live and very diverse since everyone here is a transplant - it is easy to find your tribe here and make friends - the weather is fantastic year round - the beach and ocean are minutes away including a large gay beach and a gay nude beach which is an 45 minutes away - and it is much more affordable than SanFran or NYC etc. - you are also within driving distance of other gay meccas - Miami (25 minutes) - Orlando/Disney (3.5 hours) - Key West (3 hours) - Tampa/St. Pete (3.5 hours) - there are several LARGE gay camping grounds within driving distance to boot - if you are looking for a gay community this is the place - paradise
 
There is apparently an anti-trans movement among a sub-segment of the gay community. One of my FB friends posts a lot of links and stuff about it. He's normally pretty liberal in his thinking, but when he gets on this tangent, he sounds like Greg Abbott. I think he has some issues himself, but I just scroll on by, mostly.

Maybe it's just because I'm old, but I find the gay community's adoption "queer" to be offensive. Queer is still the equivalent of "faggot" in my mind, and I really don't like it all.

I don't really understand why gender identity and sexual preference are in the same category BUT even worse for me - every trans person I have met is a Nancy Reagan or Barbara Bush. I have yet to meet a trans Gloria Steinem or Ann Richards. In other words- right wing zealots are all I have seen. The most visible one - Caitlyn - is a good example but I noticed it 20 years before I ever heard of Caitlyn. For the record - I feel no sense of community with right wing gay and lesbian zealots as well. I think gender identity and sexual identity are different things so with all the added letters I just kinda dropped out of the "community". Most of my gay male friends died of AIDS as well long ago so that is a huge factor.

I am not really "anti trans" - more like anti right wing.
 
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That's so sad. Well, I found the Oakland (S.F. bay area) trans men I befriended to be great, down to earth people, which is important to me. I understand that folks in general feel alienated what with any place we love going up in smoke and just the more divisive, cutthroat late-capitalist vibe of life right now. (##revolution). But I wonder, when it comes to the perceived gate-crashers into the homo world, is the problem mainly the media-fueled, shallow controversies about transness? Because I bet a lot of trans folks hate that mess as well.
 
Definitely no LGBTQ for me. But I feel a sense of community in church and among my colleagues
 
Why stop there.

H for homo was good enough on its own. Homosexual is homosexual. Male or female or whether one is only occasionally homosexual.

That is a good point.
I can remember when it was just gay. Nothing else. That covered all same sex attractions
 
I like the new edgy meanings that queer is being given. Queering your understanding of something has revolutionary connotations. Checking where knowledge is situated. (gender studies stuff).
 
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I like the new edgy meanings that queer is being given. Queering your understanding of something has revolutionary connotations. Checking where knowledge is situated. (gender studies stuff).

Silly university leftist stuff... the LGBTI+ world is much much larger...
 
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