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Do You Feel Guilty Owning A Car?

greaves said:
Never heard of internet shopping? My organic foods (along with most of my requirements) are delivered to my door. And this leaves me lots of time to do the shopping I really do enjoy.
And how are they delivered to your door? By dromedary? Goats pulling a cart? Magic elves? In my neck of the woods, groceries are delivered by an immense van that burns more gas in one trip than my little Ford Focus does in four... and since it's an "industrial" vehicle, it's not held to as rigid of antipollution standards as my car.

Perhaps if everyone on my street, or everyone in my neighborhood, had their groceries delivered, it would be more economical, but that's not the way it goes. Or if they delivered it the same day I ordered it, which none that I know of do... there's usually a two-day delay.

I do do a lot of my basic shopping online (though not groceries, because I can't plan when I'm going to run out of something enough in advance to order it and have it arrive when I need it), and everything is delivered to my house by ginormous non-aerodynamic smoke-belching mail trucks and UPS trucks... and schlepped across the nation, and also sometimes an ocean or two, via eighteen-wheel trucks and jet aeroplanes. Perhaps a supertanker or merchant liner is involved. Guzzle guzzle guzzle, spew spew spew. I just don't see how that makes enough of a difference to matter.

I think it's great that you're doing what you can to reduce pollution; and I am doing what I can. I could probably do more, as you could probably do more, as we could all do more. Every little bit helps; but only a little bit. The world isn't going to change overnight, it took us a couple of millenia to get into the state we're in; and it's certainly not going to change by being harangued and guilt-tripped.
 
Rockercub said:
I work at home, so nope. Hardly ever use it. But, Greaves, since you're so concerned, might I suggest that you give up your computer and go live in a grass hut somewhere. Do you really think that the processes that manufactured your house, computer, television, etc., don't contribute to the polllution of the planet? I'm all for trying to improve environmental conditions, but let's not hold one section of the population responsible for a problem that's out of control on MANY fronts.

My apartment was built in 1951, and will long outlive me.

My television is 15 years old.

My computer is second hand, and the internet is provided by lines laid by BT 30 years ago, tho' since upgraded.

How old is your car? And what does it run on? Grass?
 
greaves said:
Is it not time for car owners to admit they are polluting the planet, and to find alternative ways to travel? [-X
get a life, you tree hugging pinko! ](*,)






there that should upset somebody...


i ride a race bike (on the road..and yes it is legal) a Ford Focus 1.8 and if i could afford it i would have a 1978 Dodge charger with a 440 and a sixpack and a BMW M3 (what the hell!)
by the time the world cannot support human life i shall be dead and wont really care.
i bet your a vegen as well arent you?
 
WOLFBANE said:
get a life, you tree hugging pinko! ](*,)






there that should upset somebody...


i ride a race bike (on the road..and yes it is legal) a Ford Focus 1.8 and if i could afford it i would have a 1978 Dodge charger with a 440 and a sixpack and a BMW M3 (what the hell!)
by the time the world cannot support human life i shall be dead and wont really care.
i bet your a vegen as well arent you?

What does pinko mean? What does tree- hugger mean? And don't those 2 words "Ford Focus" rather undermine your post? And no, I'm not a vegan. You need protein to ride a bike.
 
The General said:
Not in the slightest bit guilty. And as others have said, certainly not with the price we are paying for fuel. The oil companies continue to make billions and they continue to fuck us over.

And the British Government can do what the hell they like with increases in road tax for bigger cars. It ain't gonna stop me buying one...

I rest my case.
 
I feel no guilt at all! I don't really drive that much...mainly just to and from work....and a tank of gas usually last me anywhere between 3-5 weeks! So I know I'm not doing very much harm compared to others :-)
 
Hold on while I go turn off my idling car long enough to answer..

Nope, no guilt here ;)
 
Not everyone lives in a city were everything is within a couple miles. Try living were I do without a car and see how far you get. You would have to ride you bike 17 miles every day to work. Ride your bike 10 miles to get to the grocery store. I'm all for hybrid cars and alternative fuels but doing without a car in my area of the world would be impossible. Unless you were a hermit and didn't leave your house. So to answer your question NO I don't feel guilty.:D
 
Once again, it is the big bad Americans who are to blame for the problems of the whole world. Guilt trips don't work with me.
 
sixthson said:
Once again, it is the big bad Americans who are to blame for the problems of the whole world. Guilt trips don't work with me.

Go to Google and enter "Kyoto Protocol". ..|
 
i didn't when i drove my suburban i don't now that i own a van.... i don't when i drove my grandpappies diesel... i didn't when i drove his tractor...
 
Many of the responses in this thread have been thought provoking. I don't feel guilty about owning and using my car--- but I suspect that I should feel some guilt. The car that I drive is much larger than I really need.

A couple years ago I was in a bad wreck on a street in the little town where I live. I'm pretty sure that one reason that I walked away pretty much unscathed is because of the size of the behemoth I was driving. I've used that as justification for continuing to buy over-sized cars.

Lately, though, I've been thinking about buying something like a Toyota Corolla or Honda Civic. It wouldn't be as comfortable on the occasional long trip--- but it would certainly be fine for everyday use. I could always rent a large sedan for trips.
 
I can't be bothered to read this thread and the many lengthy replies, so I will just answer the question.

No, of course I don't feel guilty owning a car.

I don't feel guilty that it's a diesel.

I couldn't give a rats ass that I could walk/cycle to work, but choose not to.
 
BenF46 said:
I can't be bothered to read this thread and the many lengthy replies, so I will just answer the question.

No, of course I don't feel guilty owning a car.

I don't feel guilty that it's a diesel.

I couldn't give a rats ass that I could walk/cycle to work, but choose not to.

"My mother-in-law loved Jaguars, which might explain the wife's whiskers!" ;)
 
I don't feel guilty in the least. I would, however, ride mass transit if it took me where I wanted to go but where I live that isn't the case. I'm in favor of alternative fuels and hybrid or electric vehicles. A friend just bought a Toyota Prius hybrid car and loves it. It uses practically no gasoline at all. Another friend continues to drive a giant Hummer and feels no guilt whatsoever, so go figure. I filled up yesterday for $2.99/gallon and winced. It cost me $45 to leave the station and I'll fill up again later this week. Ouch.
 
harristate said:
I don't feel guilty in the least. I would, however, ride mass transit if it took me where I wanted to go but where I live that isn't the case. I'm in favor of alternative fuels and hybrid or electric vehicles. A friend just bought a Toyota Prius hybrid car and loves it. It uses practically no gasoline at all. Another friend continues to drive a giant Hummer and feels no guilt whatsoever, so go figure. I filled up yesterday for $2.99/gallon and winced. It cost me $45 to leave the station and I'll fill up again later this week. Ouch.

So what is this?: www.dart.org/services.asp :confused:
 
greaves said:
That's the website for Dallas Area Rapid Transit (DART), smarty. Yes, Dallas has mass transit, sort of - but it doesn't go to my office or where I typically go. Dallas is a huge, spread-out city and one needs a car to go just about anywhere, despite DART. If I lived near a DART station and my office was near one and I didn't need my car sometimes during the day while at work, I'd ride it everyday. Unfortunately, that won't work for me.
 
LOL we go thru ALOT of gas at our house,I usually go through about $60 a week in the H2.
 
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